Insomnia, apnea and clenching

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Try http://www.HeadacheHope.com – this site talks about the NTI-TSS mouthguard. I’ve got one and it really helps my headaches (caused by bruxism). A lot of people find it useful in stopping bruxism. http://www.tmj-doctor.com/ might be interesting for you too. HTH. Hazel xx "LSM" <studio…@net-magic.net> wrote in message

news:a44e3289.0203150458.3adce709@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Cheryl" <mage…@truemagenta.com> wrote: > > I have tried 2 different medications for sleep. Neither have worked for me. > > Now I notice if I do start to dose off, my teeth seem clenched together very > > tightly. I wonder now if that is how I actually fractured a root in my molar > > the day before my first anginal attack a few months ago. Had Dental surgery > > on the Sunday, had my first and severe angina attack on the Monday > > afternoon. Ended up in the hospital via ambulance and stayed a week. > > Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing? > Cheryl — I have bruxism as well, and I’ve had it since I was a child. >  I’ve lost two teeth to it.  And after two crowns and a root canal, I > finally have a bridge.  The tooth it replaces cracked in half one > night when I clenched. > Until you are able to have a sleep doctor consult with you or you get > a professionally fitted one from your dentist ($$$$), you should > probably consider getting an over-the-counter nightguard if you don’t > already have one.  The cheapest and probably most readily-available > are the ‘boil-and-bite’ kind for athletics — about $2 (US).  Then, > available at pharmacies, if ‘The Doctor’s NightGuard’, which is > designed for bruxism rather than the impact of sports.  It is also a > do-it-yourself kind of solution and costs about $20 (US).  Another > solution I’ve seen recently you can find at www.gaiam.com (you’ll have > to do a search) is the ‘Sleep Right Nightguard’ which has swivel bite > pads only towards the rear of the mouth.  This one is supposed to > ‘retrain your jaw muscles not to clench as you sleep’.  A couple of > days ago it was on backorder, although perhaps you could find it > through another source.  The price is $49 (US).  It is my > understanding that nightguards through dentists cost around $300-400 > (US). > I know this won’t do anything for your apnea, but it sure can save you > some wear and tear on your teeth! > Lori

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I have insomnia and sleep apnea. I see the sleep clinic Doc April 12th. I know I have insomnia because I cannot sleep most nights like I used to. I developed Angina last October and now on multiple blood pressure meds, anginal meds, antidepressants, etc. I have tried 2 different medications for sleep. Neither have worked for me. Now I notice if I do start to dose off, my teeth seem clenched together very tightly. I wonder now if that is how I actually fractured a root in my molar the day before my first anginal attack a few months ago.Had Dental surgery on the Sunday, had my first and severe angina attack on the Monday afternoon. Ended up in the hospital via ambulance and stayed a week. My sleep pattern seems to be, stay awake pretty much 3 nights in a row. Sleep the 4th night from exhaustion only my husband has to nudge me numerous times throughout the night as I stop breathing for about 45-55 seconds each time ending with a struggling gasp only to start the cycle all over again. Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing? Cheryl(wide awake in Ontario)

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> Sleep the 4th night from exhaustion only my husband has to nudge me numerous > times throughout the night as I stop breathing for about 45-55 seconds each > time ending with a struggling gasp only to start the cycle all over again. > Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing? > Cheryl(wide awake in Ontario)

Were you diagnosed with Sleep apnea through a sleep study? are you being treated? if not, i strongly suggest you do both Beth in Australia

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My appointment with the sleep Clinic Doc is April 12th. My cardiologist has set it up for me. In the mean time,, (get this) he instructed my husband to keep an eye on me and nudge me throughout the night. Geez.. So now we have both of us not sleeping. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Tal" <ta…@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:3c908f20@dnews.tpgi.com.au… > > Sleep the 4th night from exhaustion only my husband has to nudge me > numerous > > times throughout the night as I stop breathing for about 45-55 seconds > each > > time ending with a struggling gasp only to start the cycle all over again. > > Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing? > > Cheryl(wide awake in Ontario) > Were you diagnosed with Sleep apnea through a sleep study? are you being > treated? if not, i strongly suggest you do both > Beth in Australia

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"Cheryl" <mage…@truemagenta.com> wrote: > I have tried 2 different medications for sleep. Neither have worked for me. > Now I notice if I do start to dose off, my teeth seem clenched together very > tightly. I wonder now if that is how I actually fractured a root in my molar > the day before my first anginal attack a few months ago. Had Dental surgery > on the Sunday, had my first and severe angina attack on the Monday > afternoon. Ended up in the hospital via ambulance and stayed a week. > Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing?

Cheryl — I have bruxism as well, and I’ve had it since I was a child.  I’ve lost two teeth to it.  And after two crowns and a root canal, I finally have a bridge.  The tooth it replaces cracked in half one night when I clenched. Until you are able to have a sleep doctor consult with you or you get a professionally fitted one from your dentist ($$$$), you should probably consider getting an over-the-counter nightguard if you don’t already have one.  The cheapest and probably most readily-available are the ‘boil-and-bite’ kind for athletics — about $2 (US).  Then, available at pharmacies, if ‘The Doctor’s NightGuard’, which is designed for bruxism rather than the impact of sports.  It is also a do-it-yourself kind of solution and costs about $20 (US).  Another solution I’ve seen recently you can find at www.gaiam.com (you’ll have to do a search) is the ‘Sleep Right Nightguard’ which has swivel bite pads only towards the rear of the mouth.  This one is supposed to ‘retrain your jaw muscles not to clench as you sleep’.  A couple of days ago it was on backorder, although perhaps you could find it through another source.  The price is $49 (US).  It is my understanding that nightguards through dentists cost around $300-400 (US). I know this won’t do anything for your apnea, but it sure can save you some wear and tear on your teeth! Lori

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Your teeth clenching or grinding is a condition known as bruxism.  Here’s a link (http://www.smiledr.com/docs/faq/faq-grnd.html) that you can go to to learn a little about it.  Sleep apnea could be one of the causes, as well as contributing to angina.  See a sleep doctor right away, and a dentist. There is treatment. Good luck. C- "Cheryl" <mage…@truemagenta.com> wrote in message

news:WQYj8.5138$OM1.217448@read1.cgocable.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have insomnia and sleep apnea. I see the sleep clinic Doc April 12th. I > know I have insomnia because I cannot sleep most nights like I used to. I > developed Angina last October and now on multiple blood pressure meds, > anginal meds, antidepressants, etc. > I have tried 2 different medications for sleep. Neither have worked for me. > Now I notice if I do start to dose off, my teeth seem clenched together very > tightly. I wonder now if that is how I actually fractured a root in my molar > the day before my first anginal attack a few months ago.Had Dental surgery > on the Sunday, had my first and severe angina attack on the Monday > afternoon. Ended up in the hospital via ambulance and stayed a week. > My sleep pattern seems to be, stay awake pretty much 3 nights in a row. > Sleep the 4th night from exhaustion only my husband has to nudge me numerous > times throughout the night as I stop breathing for about 45-55 seconds each > time ending with a struggling gasp only to start the cycle all over again. > Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing? > Cheryl(wide awake in Ontario)

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"Cheryl" <mage…@truemagenta.com> wrote: >I have insomnia and sleep apnea. I see the sleep clinic Doc April 12th. I >know I have insomnia because I cannot sleep most nights like I used to. I >developed Angina last October and now on multiple blood pressure meds, >anginal meds, antidepressants, etc.

Your sleep apnea could be the root of both your hypertension and angina. >I have tried 2 different medications for sleep. Neither have worked for me. >Now I notice if I do start to dose off, my teeth seem clenched together very >tightly.

Clenching teeth sounds like you’re tense, I wonder if you’re subconsciously afraid to go to sleep because you know you’ll stop breathing?  I wouldn’t try anything intended to relax you, it would probably worsen your OSA. You might try sleeping in a recliner, most people’s apnea is worse when they’re laying down. Is there any way to speed up your visit to the sleep doctor?  Call and see if they have a cancellation list, they might be able to fit you in earlier if someone else can’t make their appointment. Tom

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I was the same, the doctors said it was a fear of going to sleep knowing i was going to feel worse from the sleep which caused the insomnia, which is why the insomnia when away have going on CPAP for sleep apnea. Warren Also had angina, no attacks since CPAP, still on BP medications but a lot weaker medication. "Cheryl" <mage…@truemagenta.com> wrote in message

news:WQYj8.5138$OM1.217448@read1.cgocable.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have insomnia and sleep apnea. I see the sleep clinic Doc April 12th. I > know I have insomnia because I cannot sleep most nights like I used to. I > developed Angina last October and now on multiple blood pressure meds, > anginal meds, antidepressants, etc. > I have tried 2 different medications for sleep. Neither have worked for me. > Now I notice if I do start to dose off, my teeth seem clenched together very > tightly. I wonder now if that is how I actually fractured a root in my molar > the day before my first anginal attack a few months ago.Had Dental surgery > on the Sunday, had my first and severe angina attack on the Monday > afternoon. Ended up in the hospital via ambulance and stayed a week. > My sleep pattern seems to be, stay awake pretty much 3 nights in a row. > Sleep the 4th night from exhaustion only my husband has to nudge me numerous > times throughout the night as I stop breathing for about 45-55 seconds each > time ending with a struggling gasp only to start the cycle all over again. > Has anyone else had this teeth clenching thing? > Cheryl(wide awake in Ontario)

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