my pristine sinuses
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To all, I came to this group about 10 weeks ago when I was told by my Dr. that the facial pain I was experiencing around my eyes, my cheeks and my upper teeth, might be related to my sinuses. I went for a CAT scan and it showed poloyps and a deviated septum. My GP sent me to an ENT for a consult. (my firt post- 2years of torure) The ENT said there is no way that the poloyps were causing all the pain and referred me to an allergist. Over the next several weeks, I was on 6-9 meds to try and get some relief. No help. I took 2 short courses of Predniosone. No help. My allergist referred me to a very highly regarded ENT in the Phoenix area. My appt was yesterday. After listening to a short history of the pain, he gave me a 30 sec. nasal exam, looked in my mouth and at my teeth, read the CAT scan which I brought with me, and said that my sinuses looked PRISTINE. He said that I should look elsewhere for the facial pain problem, and gave me the name of a prominent headache DR. I dont have headaches, I have facial pain, where my sinuses are located, I told him. Once again, he told me that my sinuses looked great. He also told me NOT to use the Grossan Irrigator, I just purchased. WHAT!!! Doesnt he read this newsgroup?? OK, I will take his advice for now, but I still think its sinus related. Thanks to everyone who responded to my posts, Larry
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On 2 Mar 2004 13:37:29 -0800, goyg…@aol.com (goygirl) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->To all, >I came to this group about 10 weeks ago when I was told by my Dr. that >the facial pain I was experiencing around my eyes, my cheeks and my >upper teeth, might be related to my sinuses. I went for a CAT scan >and it showed poloyps and a deviated septum. My GP sent me to an ENT >for a consult. (my firt post- 2years of torure) The ENT said there >is no way that the poloyps were causing all the pain and referred me >to an allergist. Over the next several weeks, I was on 6-9 meds to >try and get some relief. No help. I took 2 short courses of >Predniosone. No help. >My allergist referred me to a very highly regarded ENT in the Phoenix >area. My appt was yesterday. After listening to a short history of >the pain, he gave me a 30 sec. nasal exam, looked in my mouth and at >my teeth, read the CAT scan which I brought with me
Did you bring a printed report or the actual films? Without the actual films, the opinion is not definitive. >, and said that my >shauses looked PRISTINE. He said that I should look elsewhere for the >facial pain problem, and gave me the name of a prominent headache DR. >I dont have headaches, I have facial pain, where my sinuses are >located, I told him. Once again, he told me that my sinuses looked >great.
My guess, then, would be that he is right. It could still be dental, muscular, etc……. >He also told me NOT to use the Grossan Irrigator, I just purchased. >WHAT!!! Doesnt he read this newsgroup?? OK, I will take his advice >for now, but I still think its sinus related.
Do you have a lot of drainage? If you have no inflammation, the irrigation is not gong to do anything…..
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Larry, you might ask your physician about Bell’s palsy. Bruce
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goygirl wrote: > To all, > I came to this group about 10 weeks ago when I was told by my Dr. that > the facial pain I was experiencing around my eyes, my cheeks and my > upper teeth, might be related to my sinuses.
I remember. here’s an article on diagnosing facial pain that I found informative: http://www.emedicine.com/neuro/topic25.htm — Steven L.
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Dear Larry, It is possible that your pain is from your neck. Can you get a referral to a hospital based or excellent physical therapist to check you over. the cervical roots can cross over to the trigeminial roots and affect V2, Usually they affect V1 but sometimes its V2 = the maxillary area. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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Is the pain more of a swelling, dull, throbbing? Do NSAID’s help? Are you fatigued or anxious? On 2 Mar 2004 13:37:29 -0800, goyg…@aol.com (goygirl) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->To all, >I came to this group about 10 weeks ago when I was told by my Dr. that >the facial pain I was experiencing around my eyes, my cheeks and my >upper teeth, might be related to my sinuses. I went for a CAT scan >and it showed poloyps and a deviated septum. My GP sent me to an ENT >for a consult. (my firt post- 2years of torure) The ENT said there >is no way that the poloyps were causing all the pain and referred me >to an allergist. Over the next several weeks, I was on 6-9 meds to >try and get some relief. No help. I took 2 short courses of >Predniosone. No help. >My allergist referred me to a very highly regarded ENT in the Phoenix >area. My appt was yesterday. After listening to a short history of >the pain, he gave me a 30 sec. nasal exam, looked in my mouth and at >my teeth, read the CAT scan which I brought with me, and said that my >sinuses looked PRISTINE. He said that I should look elsewhere for the >facial pain problem, and gave me the name of a prominent headache DR. >I dont have headaches, I have facial pain, where my sinuses are >located, I told him. Once again, he told me that my sinuses looked >great. >He also told me NOT to use the Grossan Irrigator, I just purchased. >WHAT!!! Doesnt he read this newsgroup?? OK, I will take his advice >for now, but I still think its sinus related. >Thanks to everyone who responded to my posts, >Larry
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Hi Larry… About 8 years ago I was constantly plagued by an upper molar pain. I went to the dentist who said the tooth had already been root-canaled. I went back a second time, and at this point he peeled the gum back to the root and put a few fillings in. This still didn’t help. ..I bought the Grossan irrigator and within days the pain disappeared. Want my opinion? Try the irrigation system. …If anything, it can’t hurt. …And if it helps, you know where your problems lie. Good luck…. Jon
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Excellent article but he leaves out pain of cervical origin. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dali <bre…@cya.net> wrote in message <news:b84b40luuuakvb31g9heion9h12n6oa51a@4ax.com>… > Is the pain more of a swelling, dull, throbbing? Do NSAID’s help? Are > you fatigued or anxious? > On 2 Mar 2004 13:37:29 -0800, goyg…@aol.com (goygirl) wrote: > >To all, > >I came to this group about 10 weeks ago when I was told by my Dr. that > >the facial pain I was experiencing around my eyes, my cheeks and my > >upper teeth, might be related to my sinuses. I went for a CAT scan > >and it showed poloyps and a deviated septum. My GP sent me to an ENT > >for a consult. (my firt post- 2years of torure) The ENT said there > >is no way that the poloyps were causing all the pain and referred me > >to an allergist. Over the next several weeks, I was on 6-9 meds to > >try and get some relief. No help. I took 2 short courses of > >Predniosone. No help. > >My allergist referred me to a very highly regarded ENT in the Phoenix > >area. My appt was yesterday. After listening to a short history of > >the pain, he gave me a 30 sec. nasal exam, looked in my mouth and at > >my teeth, read the CAT scan which I brought with me, and said that my > >sinuses looked PRISTINE. He said that I should look elsewhere for the > >facial pain problem, and gave me the name of a prominent headache DR. > >I dont have headaches, I have facial pain, where my sinuses are > >located, I told him. Once again, he told me that my sinuses looked > >great. > >He also told me NOT to use the Grossan Irrigator, I just purchased. > >WHAT!!! Doesnt he read this newsgroup?? OK, I will take his advice > >for now, but I still think its sinus related. > >Thanks to everyone who responded to my posts, > >Larry
Don, He did read the actual films. This is when he told me my sinuses were pristine. Absolutely no inflamation or sign of infection, thus he told me to STOP using the Grossan irrigator I just bought. Dali, No, there is no swelling I can see, but the pain is dull and throbbing. It is minimal in the morning and gets progressively worse until at night when it spreads to my cheeks and my upper teeth. In the last couple of months, I am also experiencing shortness of breathe, especially when I lie down (kinda scary) My allergist gave me some stuff, but these also seem to have no effect. The Nsaids have no effect positive or negative. Some of the sprays do seem to make my nose stuffy, something I dont normally have, but it is all clear mucuos, nothing close to green or yellow. Larry
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goygirl wrote: > No, there is no swelling I can see, but the pain is dull and > throbbing. It is minimal in the morning and gets progressively worse > until at night when it spreads to my cheeks and my upper teeth. In the > last couple of months, I am also experiencing shortness of breathe, > especially when I lie down (kinda scary) My allergist gave me some > stuff, but these also seem to have no effect. > The Nsaids have no effect positive or negative. Some of the sprays do > seem to make my nose stuffy, something I dont normally have, but it is > all clear mucuos, nothing close to green or yellow.
I think EVERYONE in the world SHOULD irrigate/wash their sinuses daily! It helps keep infections/colds/and stuffiness at bay. It should be part of our daily health and beauty regimen! I have NO mucous EVER in my nose! I irrigate once a day, use Rhinocort AQ in a freshly douched nose, and take a one/two punch of Singulair and Claritin! Claritin itself only reduced HISTAMINES and thus did HALF the job! THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR Ive gone without a cold/sinus infection in 5 years! I WAS supposed to have surgery last June BTW, Ive cured myself! SO do not give up the Grossan, do it anyway for PREVENTION! Considerations: 1// Tension/stress while sleeping 2// Nocturnal bruxism (nighttime teeth grinding) 3// minute tooth fracture exacerbated by hot and cold and acidic food. 4//Get your lower teeth checked! Tooth pain is a weird thing! 5// Do you recall any near accidents that caused you to tense up and snap your neck? 6// GET A FULL CHECK UP do not play around. 7// Something as lil as a new chair/glasses could fuck you up! 8// I have uterine fibroids and because Im having sex regularly now it caused the fibroids to shift and press up on my back and gave me back pain that also involved my neck, arms and legs, get your back checked out! 9// Do you smoke? 10// You could have an unknown unborn twin? (Just added that for levity LOL) — preesi ~~~I wear my "Days Of The Week" undies on different days just to confuse my Master~~~ http://mywebpages.comcast.net/preesi/Portal.htm (All 5 Of My Sites Under One Easy To Use Link) http://pirateradionetwork.com/ (My Radio Show- Search Under Adult For 2 Nutz Variety Show- When Active) http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Splenda1/petition.html (Sign the Low Carb Splenda Petition-Get Liquid Splenda on the Market!) http://www.petitiononline.com/KeepTWBS/petition.html (A PETITION TO STOP THE CANCELLATION OF THE WAYNE BRADY SHOW)
