Ritalin – It's working very well – but dry mouth
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Dear Chris, Try chewing gum. I am a life coach expert specializing in helping people with ADD and many of my clients have found that very helpful. Breath mints, cough drops or hard candy are also helpful If you have any further questions or are interested in my coaching services, feel free to e-mail me. I wish you great success! Sincerely, Michele Glance Rooney
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Adderall was worse, i found. YMMV.
After trying at least half a dozen other drugs, including Concerta, Strattera, and Provigl (those 3 did nothing), I jsut got my first prescription for Adderall (XR IIRC). Took one Friday morning, and couldn’t sleep at all Friday night. Lied in bed awake for hours, got up and did stuff, lied in bed, got up and watched TV, lied in bed, etc etc. Wasn’t tired or wiped Saturday, went apple picking. Finally went to sleep slightly earlier than normal Saturday night. I haven’t taken any since that first does. Is this normal? I’m afraid to take any more and not be able to function the next day at work. I’ll contact the doctor before taking any more. Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html
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I jsut got my first prescription for Adderall (XR IIRC). Took one Friday morning, and couldn’t sleep at all Friday night. Lied in bed awake for hours, got up and did stuff, lied in bed, got up and watched TV, lied in bed, etc etc. Wasn’t tired or wiped Saturday, went apple picking. Finally went to sleep slightly earlier than normal Saturday night.
Woohoo! It’s really amazing what a teeny little 10mg Adderall XR can do to you when you’re a slow metabolizer like I am – and apparently like you are. I took my first on a Saturday morning, and didn’t come down until Monday night. I called the doctor and said, why don’t we try the non-time-release kind? That worked much better, but I still had to split it in two, and only take 5mg a day for the first few months. This amount of sensitivity to stimulants isn’t usual, but it is normal – it’s just the way our metabolisms work. If the Adderall still lasts too long you can try drinking a big glass of orange juice in the afternoon – that seems to help it excrete a bit faster. Katherine
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Woohoo! It’s really amazing what a teeny little 10mg Adderall XR can do to
10mg? Mine are 30mg! maybe I just need a smaller dosage. 54mg Concerta did absolutely nothing to me. Could just as well have been a sugar pill. When the first doc (I’m on #3 now) gave me Welbutrin, I didn’t have trouble falling asleep, but if I woke up for any reason (dog, page from work, whatever) I couldn’t get back to sleep. Even one night when I fell asleep downstairs watching TV, I couldn’t get back to sleep all night. ANd on that I WAS wiped all the next day from lack of sleep. you when you’re a slow metabolizer like I am – and apparently like you are. I took my first on a Saturday morning, and didn’t come down until Monday night. I called the doctor and said, why don’t we try the non-time-release kind? That worked much better, but I still had to split it in two, and only take 5mg a day for the first few months. This amount of sensitivity to stimulants isn’t usual, but it is normal – it’s just the way our metabolisms work. If the Adderall still lasts too long you can try drinking a big glass of orange juice in the afternoon – that seems to help it excrete a bit faster.
I take them in the morning with a 6oz glass of OJ. Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<< Kaplow Klips & Baffle: http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf www.encompasserve.org/~kaplow_r/ www.nira-rocketry.org www.nar.org Save Model Rocketry from the HSA! http://www.space-rockets.com/congress.html
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. Any advice please? Biotene and an NTI headachehope.com What pray tell does a NTI have to do with dry mouth? Joel
This forum is restricted in our ability to re-educate you Dr.JE Once the masticatory muscles normalize, the salivary glands follow suit. Nothing is as easy as you portray it to be Dr.JE — W_B Definition of ’stress’: "When one’s mind overrides the intense desire to choke the living sh*t out of some a**hole who desperately needs it." – W_B
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Biotene and an NTI
For those of us at alt.support.attn-deficit, would you mind explaining both Biotene and NTI? Thanks. Vashti
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA or Australia. Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning very frequent trips to the bathroom). Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication (e.g. adderall?) It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time.
It makes sense…one of the side effects of caffeine–one of the most widely available stimulants that seems to be highly addictive–is that it is a diuretic. Water might not seem to be a viable "substitute" for saliva, but it is the biggest component of it. The diuretic effects of stimulants do need to be countered with increased fluids, because if the effect is greater than what you are used to, mild dehydration will cause more problems than mere dry mouth. However, if you do not think you can "sip all day," and can still be sure to get adaquate fluids, you might look into sucking on mints, hard candies, etc, to stimulate (pardon the pun) saliva production. Buny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA or Australia. Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning very frequent trips to the bathroom). Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication (e.g. adderall?) It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. It makes sense…one of the side effects of caffeine–one of the most widely available stimulants that seems to be highly addictive–is that it is a diuretic. Water might not seem to be a viable "substitute" for saliva, but it is the biggest component of it. The diuretic effects of stimulants do need to be countered with increased fluids, because if the effect is greater than what you are used to, mild dehydration will cause more problems than mere dry mouth. However, if you do not think you can "sip all day," and can still be sure to get adaquate fluids, you might look into sucking on mints, hard candies, etc, to stimulate (pardon the pun) saliva production. NO – don’t suck on mints or hard candy all day! (Unless they are sugar-free)
<blush Sorry about forgetting the "sugar free" part! Buny
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Biotene and an NTI For those of us at alt.support.attn-deficit, would you mind explaining both Biotene and NTI? Thanks. Vashti
Biotene is a company that makes products for minor mouth irritations, gingivitis and other oral ailments. They are available through some pharmacies and natural food stores. NTI is a concept and a mouth protector that is designed to limit oral damage resulting from abnormal forces in jaw muscles. It helps with clenching, bruxism, tension and migrane headaches and other ailments. The reason it may help here is that relaxing the musculature around the head and neck may help normalize salivary function. You may ask questions directly to the originator by accessing their web page at: http://www.nti-tss.com. HTH SP — To reply: take out the TRASH…
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NO – don’t suck on mints or hard candy all day! (Unless they are sugar-free)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA or Australia. Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning very frequent trips to the bathroom). Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication (e.g. adderall?) It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. It makes sense…one of the side effects of caffeine–one of the most widely available stimulants that seems to be highly addictive–is that it is a diuretic. Water might not seem to be a viable "substitute" for saliva, but it is the biggest component of it. The diuretic effects of stimulants do need to be countered with increased fluids, because if the effect is greater than what you are used to, mild dehydration will cause more problems than mere dry mouth. However, if you do not think you can "sip all day," and can still be sure to get adaquate fluids, you might look into sucking on mints, hard candies, etc, to stimulate (pardon the pun) saliva production. Buny
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Biotene and an NTI For those of us at alt.support.attn-deficit, would you mind explaining both Biotene and NTI? Thanks. Vashti Biotene is a company that makes products for minor mouth irritations, gingivitis and other oral ailments. They are available through some pharmacies and natural food stores. NTI is a concept and a mouth protector that is designed to limit oral damage resulting from abnormal forces in jaw muscles. It helps with clenching, bruxism, tension and migrane headaches and other ailments. The reason it may help here is that relaxing the musculature around the head and neck may help normalize salivary function. You may ask questions directly to the originator by accessing their web page at: http://www.nti-tss.com.
Looks like the night guard/bite block that I use for my TMJ… Buny
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: Any advice please?
Years ago, I was put on a blood pressure medication that caused dry mouth as a side effect. After a few weeks/months the dry mouth went away, never to return. YMMV Vaughn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA or Australia. Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning very frequent trips to the bathroom). Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication (e.g. adderall?) It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. Any advice please?
Give it a month and see if the dry mouth goes away. I found that Ritalin gave me slight dry mouth and minor headaches the first two weeks or so, but no longer does. Toby
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I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA or Australia. Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning very frequent trips to the bathroom). Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication (e.g. adderall?)
Not sure we get adderall in the UK, though you could try Concerta or Strattera. It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. Any advice please?
My daughter likes those ‘Aquadrops’ – apple or lemon flavour, which are sugar free – they certainly increase natural saliva without increasing her trips to the bathroom. You can buy them in Woolworths, petrol stations etc. Handy for a short term solution. The problem may resolve itself in a few weeks, as others have said. HTH — Grymma AFPOh Goddess Of Hangovers; B.F.(use ‘reply to’) He said… "I don’t know why you wear a bra; you’ve got nothing to put in it" She said…"You wear briefs, don’t you?"
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I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. Any advice please?
Biotene and an NTI headachehope.com — W_B Take out the G’RBAGE
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I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. Any advice please? Biotene and an NTI headachehope.com
What pray tell does a NTI have to do with dry mouth? Joel
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You should talk to: But read this first: http://ascc.healingwell.com/info/gailfaq.htm &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. : I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of : inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. : There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA : or Australia. : Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning : very frequent trips to the bathroom). Yes. That’s the thing about stimulants. I find Dexedrine stimulates EVERYTHING (except the appetite). I drink twice as much now and frequent the bathroom twice as often. : Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication : (e.g. adderall?) Adderall was worse, i found. YMMV. : It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for : saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not : supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I : won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. : Any advice please? Thoughts: 1. Carry a water bottle, when possible. 2. Avoid caffeine. 3. Carry a toothbrush and toothpaste (travel sized ones). 4. Eat and drink water regularly. 5. Avoid extreme temperatures — stimulants increase body temp and sweating, i have found. This will increase thirst. 6. Think ahead: Don’t drink a lot of water on occassions when you can’t get a forseeable pee break. 7. Most undesirable side effects of the stimulants (or any meds) are "dose-dependent". Talk to your doctor about possibly reducing the dose (temporarily, or permanent). 8. Are you on any other meds? Some can be anticholinergic and cause dry mouth, etc. 9. There is an artificial saliva product available. I have seen it used for patients with dysphagia, cancers, or on oxygen and ventilators, as they get dry mouth. Ask your pharmacist about brands. Emma 
– W_B Definition of ’stress’: "When one’s mind overrides the intense desire to choke the living sh*t out of some a**hole who desperately needs it." – W_B
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: I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. : I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of : inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. : There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA : or Australia. : Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning : very frequent trips to the bathroom). Yes. That’s the thing about stimulants. I find Dexedrine stimulates EVERYTHING (except the appetite). I drink twice as much now and frequent the bathroom twice as often. : Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication : (e.g. adderall?) Adderall was worse, i found. YMMV. : It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for : saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not : supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I : won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. : Any advice please? Thoughts: 1. Carry a water bottle, when possible. 2. Avoid caffeine. 3. Carry a toothbrush and toothpaste (travel sized ones). 4. Eat and drink water regularly. 5. Avoid extreme temperatures — stimulants increase body temp and sweating, i have found. This will increase thirst. 6. Think ahead: Don’t drink a lot of water on occassions when you can’t get a forseeable pee break. 7. Most undesirable side effects of the stimulants (or any meds) are "dose-dependent". Talk to your doctor about possibly reducing the dose (temporarily, or permanent). 8. Are you on any other meds? Some can be anticholinergic and cause dry mouth, etc. 9. There is an artificial saliva product available. I have seen it used for patients with dysphagia, cancers, or on oxygen and ventilators, as they get dry mouth. Ask your pharmacist about brands. Emma
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I have recently started using Ritalin after being diagnosed with ADHD. I am in my early 20s and have suffered from the affects of inattention/impulsivity since early childhood. There is less awareness of ADHD here in England, compared with the USA or Australia. Unfortunately, I have found myself drinking a lot of water (meaning very frequent trips to the bathroom). Should I ask my psychiatrist to let me try an alternative medication (e.g. adderall?) It is my understanding that water isn’t the ideal substitute for saliva as it does not have the same buffering capacity and is not supersaturated with calcium and phosphate ions like saliva is. Also I won’t be able to drink/sip water all the time. Any advice please?
