Spread the word wherever you can. (long)
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><therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message >news:7d929s$jtj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com… >> I’m not sharing this to brag about myself. I’m asking you all to use >whatever >> opportunity you may have to spread the word about sleep disorders. >This was >> one occasion where I had a captive audience. Please, dear friends, >educate >> your friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. You might just find a >fellow >> sufferer who can be helped.
You are so right about spreading the news when possible. I have coaxed two coworkers and one coworkers friend into following up with their physician about their severe snoring and excessive daytime sleepiness. All three are now on CPAP, and feeling better. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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In article <922474103.256…@news.remarQ.com>, "Jo" <jl…@zoomnet.net> wrote: > I feel that if a woman like me–fat and totally embarrassed by the fact > that I snored louder than a chain saw–can adjust to using a CPAP > machine and turn my totally hateful and resentful attitude about having > to use the machine to totally loving it, that anyone can get used to it, > too. I take any opportunity to inform and educate anyone that I can. I > like being free from the debilitating effects of sleep apnea and think > that other people should be too. > Jo
Good for you, Jo! Heep the lines of information open. You could save a life, directly or indirectly. Pleasant Dreams Bill Sullivan ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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<therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
news:7d929s$jtj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com… > I’m not sharing this to brag about myself. I’m asking you all to use whatever > opportunity you may have to spread the word about sleep disorders. This was > one occasion where I had a captive audience. Please, dear friends, educate > your friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. You might just find a fellow > sufferer who can be helped.
I enjoyed your tale immensely and I agree wholeheartedly with you. I feel that if a woman like me–fat and totally embarrassed by the fact that I snored louder than a chain saw–can adjust to using a CPAP machine and turn my totally hateful and resentful attitude about having to use the machine to totally loving it, that anyone can get used to it, too. I take any opportunity to inform and educate anyone that I can. I like being free from the debilitating effects of sleep apnea and think that other people should be too. Jo
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I had worked at my job (Cousins Submarines) for seven years when I got cronic insomnia along with anxiety and depression. At first they seemed sympathetic but when it wasn’t going away they decided to let me go. I too had promotions and bonuses. I even trained other managers. When I got fired they told me I was a good and hard worker but…….. I think it’s pretty f****ed up. They need to understand what we are going through and not be so heartless. It was almost as if they were feeding off of this. One manager got me so worked up that I was in the middle of an anxiety attack and she said you should go home if you have anxiety. She said punch out and go home. I should have kicked her ugly ass. Anyway after they fired me, the manager that told me to go home which was also the same one that got me fired, quit two weeks later. You would think that my supervisor would try to understand since she was recovering from a serious illness too. I quess I wasn’t important enough. Jennifer
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In article <370044ed.4872…@news.swbell.net>, clper…@swbell.net.nuts (Charles L. Perrin) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:51:45 +1100, "gregh" > <ch…@dontspam.ozemail.com.au> wrote: > ><therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message > >news:7d929s$jtj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com… > >> Pleasant Dreams > >> Bill Sullivan > >> (no relation to the CPAP company) > >HEH HEH well the guy who invented it is a Sydney, Australia sleep specialist > >(yep, CPAP was invented in Australia) so likely you would have to be > >Australian to be related. ;-} > Well, it’s time to trace the family line back to "merry old England" > and see if Bill has a CPAP in his ancestry. <grin>
Interesting. I know my branch of the Sullivan clan was involuntarily transported to North America during the potato famine of 1845-1849. Australia was another popular destination for Irishmen being transported. It’s a possibility! Pleasant dreams Bill Sullivan ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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In response to Bill Sullivan’s posting: I couldn’t agree with you more about the importance of educating folks on OSA. I am a professor who teaches Human Physiology to preprofessional students and whose husband suffers from OSA. Just yesterday, I talked about obstructive respiratory diseases and spent several minutes discussing OSA. One student shared with the class that she is a CPAP user and I tried to plant the seed that OSA is an insidious, often undiagnosed disorder with serious consequences. BTW, my husband just had septoplasty 1.5 weeks ago and we’re hoping this helps alleviate some problems and makes CPAP more effective. Jenny Marcinkiewicz ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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>I was >tasked with making a presentation about the Americans with Disabilities Act.
the above was from a much longer post.. Great posting…touche for you! also know that at least in the US, each state has a vocational rehabilitation dept which is normally charged with helping employers meet the ADA standards etc for employees who have stated they need accomodations. jsut a piece of info 
~~ pattie
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Well done, Bill! You may really be a rocket scientist after all. :-) Mary Lee On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:49:52 GMT, therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->After a few e-mails with folks on this group, I decided to share an >experience. >I recently completed my MBA studies. (College is a lot easier when you can >stay awake!) One of the requirements was a seminar on Business Ethics. I was >tasked with making a presentation about the Americans with Disabilities Act. >As part of my presentation, I presented this discussion case. >===== >Harry Martin is a software engineer employed at DilbertCorp. He has been >employed for seven years. Harry enjoys an excellent work record with numerous >promotions and bonuses. He has been frequently named employee of the month. >Harry’s performance has recently been called into question. He is falling >asleep at work. He has been observed snoring in his cubicle or in a stall in >the men’s room.. Other employees are beginning to comment about this. It has >become a performance issue. Management has verbally warned him about his >sleeping on the job. >===== >The discussion was quite interesting. I did not add anything to it, serving >only as the moderator. I heard more than a few comments complaining about how >it is impossible to fire an incompetent employee these days without worrying >about a lawsuit. One woman commented that a paper trail should be started >immediately so that Harry might be dismissed. >Not one person suggested that Harry should be counseled to see a doctor. >After the discussion, I let everybody know that Harry was really myself. I >altered some of the names, but the facts were essentially the same. I then >let them know about Obstructive Sleep Apnia and how it can be treated. I had >my CPAP with me and demonstrated its use. >Well, I was overwhelmed by the positive response I received. Most of these >people were totally unaware of sleep disorders. I fielded so many questions >that the class ran a half hour late. >Most gratifying, however, was a phone call I recieved a few days later from a >classmate who suspected that she had OSA, and wanted some info about getting a >sleep study. >I’m not sharing this to brag about myself. I’m asking you all to use whatever >opportunity you may have to spread the word about sleep disorders. This was >one occasion where I had a captive audience. Please, dear friends, educate >your friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. You might just find a fellow >sufferer who can be helped. >Pleasant Dreams >Bill Sullivan >(no relation to the CPAP company) >———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:49:52 GMT, therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >Not one person suggested that Harry should be counseled to see a doctor.
That’s the cropper…. my managers and such knew I was having some trouble but we never quite got to the bottom of it. And, it seemed that my doctors kept circling in around it. (Part of it was for me that I was on a med that also caused EDS. I put two plus two together on that one and went to a cardiologist… who was quite pleased to find a cause for the stuff that was going on that he couldn’t quite explain.) In my case, my sleep apnea was diagnosed by my MOTHER — who knew about sleep apnea, and had to listen to the horrid noises I made when I took a Sunday afternoon nap. (I was on vacation.) She informed me post-CPAP that the blower sounded much better. Basically, the main thing my doctor did was order the polysomnogram to confirm it. >Bill Sullivan >(no relation to the CPAP company)
You do know there is a real Dr. Sullivan, don’t you? — IMPORTANT: Remove the edible part of the E-mail address before replying.
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On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:51:45 +1100, "gregh" <ch…@dontspam.ozemail.com.au> wrote: ><therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message >news:7d929s$jtj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com… >> Pleasant Dreams >> Bill Sullivan >> (no relation to the CPAP company) >HEH HEH well the guy who invented it is a Sydney, Australia sleep specialist >(yep, CPAP was invented in Australia) so likely you would have to be >Australian to be related. ;-}
Well, it’s time to trace the family line back to "merry old England" and see if Bill has a CPAP in his ancestry. <grin> — IMPORTANT: Remove the edible part of the E-mail address before replying.
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<therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
news:7d929s$jtj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com… > I’m not sharing this to brag about myself. I’m asking you all to use whatever > opportunity you may have to spread the word about sleep disorders. This was > one occasion where I had a captive audience. Please, dear friends, educate > your friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. You might just find a fellow > sufferer who can be helped.
Thanks for that story. I love the "wake up" people get when shown the obvious. Honestly some people just dont stop to think that there may be a medical reason, these days, do they? > Pleasant Dreams > Bill Sullivan > (no relation to the CPAP company)
HEH HEH well the guy who invented it is a Sydney, Australia sleep specialist (yep, CPAP was invented in Australia) so likely you would have to be Australian to be related. ;-} — Remove the anti-spammer stuff
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Great job! Thats what I call taking advantage of the situation and turning into positive action! Ever since I was diagnosed, I find myself talking about it alot and find a lot of people also have it but don’t want to talk about it. I’m just supporting your "spread the word" theory. Deb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > After a few e-mails with folks on this group, I decided to share an > experience. > I recently completed my MBA studies. (College is a lot easier when you can > stay awake!) One of the requirements was a seminar on Business Ethics. I was > tasked with making a presentation about the Americans with Disabilities Act. > As part of my presentation, I presented this discussion case. > ===== > Harry Martin is a software engineer employed at DilbertCorp. He has been > employed for seven years. Harry enjoys an excellent work record with numerous > promotions and bonuses. He has been frequently named employee of the month. > Harry’s performance has recently been called into question. He is falling > asleep at work. He has been observed snoring in his cubicle or in a stall in > the men’s room.. Other employees are beginning to comment about this. It has > become a performance issue. Management has verbally warned him about his > sleeping on the job. > ===== > The discussion was quite interesting. I did not add anything to it, serving > only as the moderator. I heard more than a few comments complaining about how > it is impossible to fire an incompetent employee these days without worrying > about a lawsuit. One woman commented that a paper trail should be started > immediately so that Harry might be dismissed. > Not one person suggested that Harry should be counseled to see a doctor. > After the discussion, I let everybody know that Harry was really myself. I > altered some of the names, but the facts were essentially the same. I then > let them know about Obstructive Sleep Apnia and how it can be treated. I had > my CPAP with me and demonstrated its use. > Well, I was overwhelmed by the positive response I received. Most of these > people were totally unaware of sleep disorders. I fielded so many questions > that the class ran a half hour late. > Most gratifying, however, was a phone call I recieved a few days later from a > classmate who suspected that she had OSA, and wanted some info about getting a > sleep study. > I’m not sharing this to brag about myself. I’m asking you all to use whatever > opportunity you may have to spread the word about sleep disorders. This was > one occasion where I had a captive audience. Please, dear friends, educate > your friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. You might just find a fellow > sufferer who can be helped. > Pleasant Dreams > Bill Sullivan > (no relation to the CPAP company) > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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therocketscient…@my-dejanews.com wrote:
<snip beginning of long, but excellent post> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->After the discussion, I let everybody know that Harry was really myself. I >altered some of the names, but the facts were essentially the same. I then >let them know about Obstructive Sleep Apnia and how it can be treated. I had >my CPAP with me and demonstrated its use. >Well, I was overwhelmed by the positive response I received. Most of these >people were totally unaware of sleep disorders. I fielded so many questions >that the class ran a half hour late. >Most gratifying, however, was a phone call I recieved a few days later from a >classmate who suspected that she had OSA, and wanted some info about getting a >sleep study.
Kudos, Mr. Sullivan! That was exactly the right way to get everyone’s attention and help them consider and option they hadn’t known about. I agree with you. Anyone in a position to do management training or something similar would do well to consider this exercise.
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Great Job!!! I lost one job due to sleep apnea. I knew I had the disorder but didn’t realise how serious and my employer at the time was not enlightened in dealing with "Human Resources". My current employer also noticed the problem and put me on probation. Then my manager asked if I would go to the local Employees Assistance Program to see if there was something wrong. That was when I realized how serious my OSA was. I love that man. He has been understanding and supportive but has also required that I pursue a solution and maintain a standard of quality. Now that I have gotten my trach and am doing better I am busting my hump to do the job better than expected. = = = = = For information regarding Tracheostomy and the treatment of Obstructive Sleep Apnea please visit http://members.aol.com/citylinc/osa/index.htm = = = = = A great sleep forum http://www.sleepedu.net/forums/apnea/apneainf.html
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On 23 Mar 1999 23:33:49 GMT, in alt.support.sleep-disorder peacful…@aol.com (PeacfulRvr) wrote: >Great Job!!! >I lost one job due to sleep apnea. I knew I had the disorder but didn’t >realise how serious and my employer at the time was not enlightened in dealing >with "Human Resources". >My current employer also noticed the problem and put me on probation. Then my >manager asked if I would go to the local Employees Assistance Program to see if >there was something wrong. That was when I realized how serious my OSA was.
My employer made it as difficult for me as he possibly could. His actions (creating the paper trail Bill mentioned, encouraging open criticism of me by, and in the presence of, colleagues, increasing my workload to breaking point and returning my work to me for revision at every opportunity) were the clearest case of ‘constructive dismissal’ that my solicitor, who specialises in such cases, has ever seen. Thankfully I kept detailed contemporaneous records. On the basis of these, my solicitor suggested that a successful private prosecution of the individual was a distinct possibility – in addition to any action against the organisation that employed us both. In the end the Personnel Department were slightly more sympathetic than my boss. They arranged for me to retire on health grounds (after a rigourous series of medical reports) with a small pension for which I am very grateful. >I love that man. He has been understanding and supportive but has also >required that I pursue a solution and maintain a standard of quality.
If only my boss had had this level of intelligence and humanity 
I cannot truthfully say I love him, but I will try to be a Christian … >Now that I have gotten my trach and am doing better I am busting my hump to do >the job better than expected.
And the result is a win/win situation. Well done, both of you. — Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
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After a few e-mails with folks on this group, I decided to share an experience. I recently completed my MBA studies. (College is a lot easier when you can stay awake!) One of the requirements was a seminar on Business Ethics. I was tasked with making a presentation about the Americans with Disabilities Act. As part of my presentation, I presented this discussion case. ===== Harry Martin is a software engineer employed at DilbertCorp. He has been employed for seven years. Harry enjoys an excellent work record with numerous promotions and bonuses. He has been frequently named employee of the month. Harry’s performance has recently been called into question. He is falling asleep at work. He has been observed snoring in his cubicle or in a stall in the men’s room.. Other employees are beginning to comment about this. It has become a performance issue. Management has verbally warned him about his sleeping on the job. ===== The discussion was quite interesting. I did not add anything to it, serving only as the moderator. I heard more than a few comments complaining about how it is impossible to fire an incompetent employee these days without worrying about a lawsuit. One woman commented that a paper trail should be started immediately so that Harry might be dismissed. Not one person suggested that Harry should be counseled to see a doctor. After the discussion, I let everybody know that Harry was really myself. I altered some of the names, but the facts were essentially the same. I then let them know about Obstructive Sleep Apnia and how it can be treated. I had my CPAP with me and demonstrated its use. Well, I was overwhelmed by the positive response I received. Most of these people were totally unaware of sleep disorders. I fielded so many questions that the class ran a half hour late. Most gratifying, however, was a phone call I recieved a few days later from a classmate who suspected that she had OSA, and wanted some info about getting a sleep study. I’m not sharing this to brag about myself. I’m asking you all to use whatever opportunity you may have to spread the word about sleep disorders. This was one occasion where I had a captive audience. Please, dear friends, educate your friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. You might just find a fellow sufferer who can be helped. Pleasant Dreams Bill Sullivan (no relation to the CPAP company) ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
