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I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C We all know some inflexible people,intolerant of ambiguity.that’s not really important to me.Those dx bipolar II don’t have such a great time,most i know spending lives battling severe depression.they say they have had little of the highs,sometimes wistfully,and i tell them they’re missing a lot of aggravation,& yes ,delusions,even hallucinations.Comparison is lost time.we oughta be getting better,or good as we can get,or well.That would be nice,wouldn’t it?(i had to hace "closure")HHH
Yes it would harry…. I feel I have gotten better in the long run, but my ways are unconventional. The road less traveled… Vicky
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I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C We all know some inflexible people,intolerant of ambiguity.that’s not really important to me.Those dx bipolar II don’t have such a great time,most i know spending lives battling severe depression.they say they have had little of the highs,sometimes wistfully,and i tell them they’re missing a lot of aggravation,& yes ,delusions,even hallucinations.Comparison is lost time.we oughta be getting better,or good as we can get,or well.That would be nice,wouldn’t it?(i had to hace "closure")HHH Yes it would harry…. I feel I have gotten better in the long run, but my ways are unconventional. The road less traveled… Vicky
Well,I am more "experienced",as Jimi Hendrix might have said,not from drugs like Jimi took,but from this I was given or became,till I’m who I am.These "illnesses" I think are not so measurable,not well defined.The differences between "disorders" who can distinguish?Not me.We just live,if that’s what we choose to do,the best we can,or we don’t try too hard.A doctor told me,shaking his head,"there is method to this madness".He quit practicing shortly thereafter,he being a psychoanalyst.C
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I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C We all know some inflexible people,intolerant of ambiguity.that’s not really important to me.Those dx bipolar II don’t have such a great time,most i know spending lives battling severe depression.they say they have had little of the highs,sometimes wistfully,and i tell them they’re missing a lot of aggravation,& yes ,delusions,even hallucinations.Comparison is lost time.we oughta be getting better,or good as we can get,or well.That would be nice,wouldn’t it?(i had to hace "closure")HHH Yes it would harry…. I feel I have gotten better in the long run, but my ways are unconventional. The road less traveled… Vicky Well,I am more "experienced",as Jimi Hendrix might have said
Naa, Jimi would have said "Are you experienced" ,not from drugs like Jimi took
Jimi took a lot of drugs
haha! so did 3/4 of the young people that grew up in that era,,,, ain’t no big thang,,, ,but from this I was given or became,till I’m who I am.
Well I know what it is like to hallucinate when I was perfectly straight if that’s what your getting at.. These "illnesses" I think are not so measurable,not well defined.
I think I said that in another post but I am sure its no original thought as thoughts go. The differences between "disorders" who can distinguish?Not me.We just live,if that’s what we choose to do,the best we can,or we don’t try too hard.
I don’t get "or we don’t try to hard" what does that mean? A doctor told me,shaking his head,"there is method to this madness".
I suppose there is, and we just aren’t privy to it? He quit practicing shortly thereafter,he being a psychoanalyst.C
Hmm…. Vicky
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The next morning was the day I actually set out to commit suicide. The only time I’ve gone beyond thinking about it and started acting. I got interrupted by a "friend" that I don’t even like very much, but who wouldn’t leave me alone. Just kept talking and talking. He had no idea what he was interrupting. By the time he was gone and I could continue, the mood had left me. Without knowing it, he had saved my life. I feel guilty that I still don’t really like him much, and that I’ve never thanked him.
An inspiring story. Thanks for sharing it. I wonder whether your non-friend was actually on some subconscious level aware of the good he was doing, and motivated by a desire to save you.
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I wonder whether your non-friend was actually on some subconscious level aware of the good he was doing, and motivated by a desire to save you.
The same thought had occurred to me when I first read Bobby’s post. I’d imagine that the non-friend reaized that Bobby was really feeling awful bad and wanted to help him. Or maybe God moved in mysterious was, his miracles to perform. Maggie
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Doesn’t everyone get misdiagnosed thier first time if its BP in any form? I was diagnosed with MPD somewhere in my history when I met a new pdoc for the first time and only months ago I was officially diagnosed with a type of Schizophrenia along with my other illnesses but never no pdcos before gave me that diagnosis. Geeze! Its enough to bang your head in confusion.
It’s very common, and as an FP I’ve done it myself several times–started someone on an SSRI for depression, only to have the patient get worse. Then the diagnosis of bipolar D/O occurs to me, put the patient on Depakote along with the SSRI, and miraculous results. But I’m learning. Yesterday I diagnosed someone with depression and anxiety, but thought to ask questions like, "Do you ever go without sleep and feel like you don’t need to sleep much?" "Risk-taking behavior?" etc. Her answers were in the affirmative to most of the questions, so I started her on both an SSRI and Depakote. We’ll see how she does.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly.. Vicky Yes, BP2 is more of a depressive illness with hypomanic phases, not full blown mania. It’s what I have. -H
Hi Hiliare, My stuff started with depression that went into a full blown psychotic break 30 years ago, then after that I had trouble thinking and reasoning for many years, I was just not the same mentally after the psychotic break… The thing is now, is that I have pretty clear thinking compared to then and the last psychosis I had was 2 years ago and it had a trigger but my reactions were off the map, full blown paranoia… then after say two weeks I am ok, take no meds and seem to be fine… then maybe 6 months later have a depression that lasts awhile and a week on a anti depressant lifts me out and I stop taking them and I am fine for maybe another 5 months or so.. What I don’t understand is with all the dxes I have had in the past after maybe seeing a shrink for maybe one or two times how they come up with the dxes… Does this sound more BP 1 to you or maybe schizo affective? I think maybe what throws them off is that I am ok for relatively long periods of time… Vicky
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I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly.. I’ve been Dx BP II. I’ve never been seriously Psychotic on my own, so that part seems to be true (Once when a previous pdoc stopped some meds cold turkey, well, I was psychotic for a little while).
Interesting
OTOH, I have in the past been mildly delusional. Nothing really grand, like my son Ian, who is BPI gets, but I do imagine myself to be the most brilliant person on earth, God’s gift to whatever I might be obsessed with at the moment, and so on.
I am not sure if I ever imagined myself to be the most brilliant although I do get obsessive and think I have peoples answers for them sometimes… I am not sure if that is Co dependency or a little bit of know it allness, or wanting to play Dr :0) Sorry for the play on words.. Ive become obsessed at times with reading the DSM 4 and thinking I could understand it,,, I don’t think I actually do as they have made dxing people so complicated.. Now that may not quite cut it to be fully delusional. Ian definitely makes it, he once thought that he was born in England, his real parents were international spies, they died in a car accident where they were decapitated, he survived because he was shorter. After that he lived in California with a surfer dude until he was kidnapped by a biker gang and sold in the white slave trade to Kris and me, who used him as a household slave. This story came out in a family group meeting at the Genesis center, where he was in partial treatment. In front of maybe a dozen other families.
I guess at one time someone with these types of symptoms would be first dxed as Schizophrenic or at least Psychotic… I am curious as to what makes the distinction between Schizo stuff and Bi polar… Kris was mortified. Even more so when we found out that he’d told this to his counselor at school (why didn’t she call us?) and a lot of students.
hmm, yeah that is strange… I found with my first episode similar to your sons that no matter how extreme I got, people really had no clue as to what was going on with me as I was not being very verbal about what thoughts were going on in my head.. This was a bit before I was Dx’d. I was *very* unstable, and completely out of touch with reality. Obviously, I should have been more worried about Ian than anything, but I was completely beyond making any logical connections between what was happening and what I was about to do. I was barely masking my internal condition from the people around me.
Sounds like you sort of blame yourself in some ways for not being able to help your son before it got bad for him… I am sure you know or have been told it is not your fault.. The next morning was the day I actually set out to commit suicide. The only time I’ve gone beyond thinking about it and started acting. I got interrupted by a "friend" that I don’t even like very much, but who wouldn’t leave me alone. Just kept talking and talking. He had no idea what he was interrupting. By the time he was gone and I could continue, the mood had left me. Without knowing it, he had saved my life.
That has happened to a friend of mine only it was his brother who showed up at his place.. I feel guilty that I still don’t really like him much, and that I’ve never thanked him. Wow, has *this* post drifted off topic!
Oh not really, this stuff is all connected .. Thanks for sharing this… Vicky
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I have bipolar type 2 and I am not delusional or psychotic. Oh Lucky you
I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky
hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C
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I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C
We all know some inflexible people,intolerant of ambiguity.that’s not really important to me.Those dx bipolar II don’t have such a great time,most i know spending lives battling severe depression.they say they have had little of the highs,sometimes wistfully,and i tell them they’re missing a lot of aggravation,& yes ,delusions,even hallucinations.Comparison is lost time.we oughta be getting better,or good as we can get,or well.That would be
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What I have since come to recognize as hypomania occurred, it was assumed that those eriods were good times when I was "normal" and not depressed.
No one assumed that *for* me, but I always just sort of assumed that for myself, even though, deep down, I really know that there was something wrong, at least since a really bad episode around ‘85 or so. and the spurts occurred when I wasn’t depressed. It was amazing how wel focused I could be and how much I could accomplish during these
Speaking of "focused" and youth, that reminds me of something. I remember a party where the adults were talking about add or adhd, which was just becoming something that was talked about, or at least I so remember. I remember my mother mentioning that I couldn’t possibly have it, that it was downright scary how focused I could be on a task. Perhaps a first sign of "goal oriented activity"? — Manic depression befriends me, Hear his voice; Sanity now it’s beyond me, There’s no choice -Ozzy Osbourne
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I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C We all know some inflexible people,intolerant of ambiguity.that’s not really important to me.Those dx bipolar II don’t have such a great time,most i know spending lives battling severe depression.they say they have had little of the highs,sometimes wistfully,and i tell them they’re missing a lot of aggravation,& yes ,delusions,even hallucinations.Comparison is lost time.we oughta be getting better,or good as we can get,or well.That would be
nice,wouldn’t it?(i had to hace "closure")HHH
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip What I don’t understand is with all the dxes I have had in the past after maybe seeing a shrink for maybe one or two times how they come up with the dxes… Does this sound more BP 1 to you or maybe schizo affective? I think maybe what throws them off is that I am ok for relatively long periods of time… My DX was changed from BP1 with Psychotic Features to schizo-affective because I had an absence of mood related symptoms for over 2 weeks while my psychosis continued. The two week period is the minimum, 6 months is still plausible for schizo-affective, I believe. HTH SR
Aye, None of this is making any sense to me at this point in time. I think schizo affective and bi polar are so inter connected it is just a matter of who or when the Drs are seeing you that determine the dx… It is probably not far off the mark that being what they call a spectrum disorder now, we could reasonably move from one point or color on the spectrum at different times…. being virtually a non static disorder.. In autism most refer to it now as a landscape as opposed to a spectrum.. No mans land would be apropos at times
Vicky/ with the weird sense of humor
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I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky hi,everybody…..I am acquainted with people who are diagnosed "2".With no intention of offense,a few acted like like,"you’re "mentally ill",the severity of their symptoms not being as ,shall we say,bizarre or disabling.Snobbery in mental illness?never?CS/I have witnessed Bipolars,speaking of schizophrenics, acting like "I got (just a) mood disorder,not a thought disorder."What’s the point of comparison?How much good does it do?The DSM 4 ain’t The Bible,since it gets revised often enough to tell you how much we must have to know yet.C We all know some inflexible people,intolerant of ambiguity.that’s not really important to me.Those dx bipolar II don’t have such a great time,most i know spending lives battling severe depression.they say they have had little of the highs,sometimes wistfully,and i tell them they’re missing a lot of aggravation,& yes ,delusions,even hallucinations.Comparison is lost time.we oughta be getting better,or good as we can get,or well.That would be
As I get it,Bipolar 2 is where you get the lows,sometimes for a long time.What that sounds like is recurrent deppression,with brief flirtations with mania,but not in so far it’s hell coming back.People I know called this mysterious bipolar 2 can’t remember a manic episode-it just seems their doctor saw them on a good day which in contrast to the depression looked something like mania,or the luminous mood could have been the result of an antidepressant working,or overworking.This is obviously speculation,based on an uneducated ,sometimes guilty bystander.A sage at the pool hall told me,"You can observe a lot by just watching".It would seem that 2s have a tough time.The ones I know handle life’s course just as full of tears of rage and grief.By whatever name,anyone with a persistent (is that better than chronic?)illness suffers.Whatever the name,the playing of the game,it’s full of pitfalls and occasional joy.C
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Very very interesting. We are so alike in different ways. 1/2 Alex – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Doesn’t everyone get misdiagnosed thier first time if its BP in any form? 1/2 Alex My experience was interesting from the other end of the spectrum. Because I was a ware that manic depression ran in my mother’s maternal line I ALWAYS asked psychiatrists to be sepcifially on the look out for any signs of it in me. My homelife was highly disfunctional and I was recognized by others as being severlydepressed since at least the 6th grade. My 5th grade teacher had noticed perfectionistic tendenciesto the extend that she called my parents in to discuss it……they thought it was something to be proud of and my other actually bragged about it to her friends. I started seeing shrinks (MD types) at age 16. I was consistantly told that because I didn’t have mania, I wasn’t BP. What I have since come to recognize as hypomania occurred, it was assumed that those eriods were good times when I was "normal" and not depressed. One of the things that surprised me the most in the list of discriptions of hypomaina symptoms was "emphasis of goal oriented behavior." I was weel known for accommplishing great things in spurts and the spurts occurred when I wasn’t depressed. It was amazing how wel focused I could be and how much I could accomplish during these periods. I am bright and know how to organize and break down a task. I’ve always been good at making social connections with high achieving contemporaries…..before they were famous…..lol…..and have been a good little networker. This has come in handy. I also have a very good picture of who to call, who can help me and generally how to get things done when I am stable or hypomanic. SO, it was assummed that I was a gal with remarkably good "potential" but inconsistant…..often percieved as laziness or flakiness……not living up to my full potential. Sometimes co-wporkers thought that I just wasn’t dedicated to my job, and then resented my abibity to pull things together with apparent ease when I rose to the occasion. This ability was often dismissed as a fluke even though the flukes happened a whole, whole lot. This led to having a mumber of co-workers who really didn’t like me, and were often quite mean to me. Note: My ability to "get things done" and "Make things happen" has always been the trait I have most valued and consider one of my finest abilities. I just wish I could do it consistantly. the last 10 years. Perhaps this is why it was recognized sooner. Maggie.
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I have bipolar type 2 and I am not delusional or psychotic. Major Depressive Episode: depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels sad or empty) or observation made by others (e.g., appears tearful). Note: In children and adolescents, can be irritable mood. markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day (as indicated by either subjective account or observation made by others) significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain (e.g., a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month), or decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day. Note: In children, consider failure to make expected weight gains. insomnia or hypersomnia nearly every day psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day (observable by others, not merely subjective feelings of restlessness or being slowed down) fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt (which may be delusional) nearly every day (not merely self-reproach or guilt about being sick) diminished ability to think or concentrate, or indecisiveness, nearly every day (either by subjective account or as observed by others) recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide Hypomanic Episode:A distinct period of persistently elevated, expansive, or irritable mood, lasting throughout at least 4 days, that is clearly different from the usual nondepressed mood. During the period of mood disturbance, three (or more) of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree: inflated self-esteem or grandiosity decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep) more talkative than usual or pressure to keep talking flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli) increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions, or foolish business investments) The episode is associated with an unequivocal change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person when not symptomatic. The disturbance in mood and the change in functioning are observable by others. The episode is not severe enough to cause marked impairment in social or occupational functioning, or to necessitate hospitalization, and there are no psychotic features. The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication, or other treatment) or a general medical condition (e.g., hyperthyroidism).
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Doesn’t everyone get misdiagnosed thier first time if its BP in any form? I was diagnosed with MPD somewhere in my history when I met a new pdoc for the first time and only months ago I was officially diagnosed with a type of Schizophrenia along with my other illnesses but never no pdcos before gave me that diagnosis. Geeze! Its enough to bang your head in confusion. Good luck 1/2 Alex – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly.. Vicky
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I have bipolar type 2 and I am not delusional or psychotic.
Oh Lucky you
I have had the pleasure of experiencing delusions psychosis, hallucinations, paranoia, the whole ball of wax… It is very frightening and something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone.. Take care, Vicky
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly.. Vicky My understand is this: History of depressive episodes. At least one incident of hypomania (mania light…you get a little higher than just being in a good mood.) And a family history of manic depression. That’s the opening bid, and pretty much describes my situation. For me, the depresson is the primry issue. Maggie
Thanks Maggie Vicky
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Hi All, I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly.. Vicky
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Hi All, I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly.. Vicky
Yes, BP2 is more of a depressive illness with hypomanic phases, not full blown mania. It’s what I have. -H
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I just read that bipolar 2 is more than just depression, But Never Delusional or Psychotic? Is this true? If so than I was dxed incorrectly..
I’ve been Dx BP II. I’ve never been seriously Psychotic on my own, so that part seems to be true (Once when a previous pdoc stopped some meds cold turkey, well, I was psychotic for a little while). OTOH, I have in the past been mildly delusional. Nothing really grand, like my son Ian, who is BPI gets, but I do imagine myself to be the most brilliant person on earth, God’s gift to whatever I might be obsessed with at the moment, and so on. Now that may not quite cut it to be fully delusional. Ian definitely makes it, he once thought that he was born in England, his real parents were international spies, they died in a car accident where they were decapitated, he survived because he was shorter. After that he lived in California with a surfer dude until he was kidnapped by a biker gang and sold in the white slave trade to Kris and me, who used him as a household slave. This story came out in a family group meeting at the Genesis center, where he was in partial treatment. In front of maybe a dozen other families. Kris was mortified. Even more so when we found out that he’d told this to his counselor at school (why didn’t she call us?) and a lot of students. This was a bit before I was Dx’d. I was *very* unstable, and completely out of touch with reality. Obviously, I should have been more worried about Ian than anything, but I was completely beyond making any logical connections between what was happening and what I was about to do. I was barely masking my internal condition from the people around me. The next morning was the day I actually set out to commit suicide. The only time I’ve gone beyond thinking about it and started acting. I got interrupted by a "friend" that I don’t even like very much, but who wouldn’t leave me alone. Just kept talking and talking. He had no idea what he was interrupting. By the time he was gone and I could continue, the mood had left me. Without knowing it, he had saved my life. I feel guilty that I still don’t really like him much, and that I’ve never thanked him. Wow, has *this* post drifted off topic! — Manic depression befriends me, Hear his voice; Sanity now it’s beyond me, There’s no choice -Ozzy Osbourne
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