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Which leads into my next theory…I noticed at one point the last time I was seriously low-carbing that I feel better and lose weight more steadily at a somewhat higher carb level than Induction. I’m thinking that at 25-30 grams of carbs a day I simply consume more food, thereby getting enough calories.
I think making sure that you’re taking in enough calories in general is probably the first thing you should check into. Want you were describing in your post sounded like your metabolism was slowing down (the getting cold part) and that certainly can be due to cutting calories back to far. It can also be do to a thyroid level problem, but someone else will have to help you out in that area. What I was leaning towards has more to do with muscle glycogen replenishment. I’m wondering if you’re muscles are so depleted from exercise that its triggering something. Usually I would think that it would only happen if you where seriously WT, but maybe not. For myself, when I haven’t been following TKD correctly, within a few weeks of serious training I just start to get weaker and sense a deep need to take in some fuel. But it can be hard to tell physical need from psychological need. If nothing else works out for you, I’d still encourage you to consider TKD, but to refuel with something other than ‘real food’. — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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I thought that I had sent this message out already… but I guess not. I’ve read what the others have offered and agree with what they’ve written. Just one other point: Good idea. I even have the ingredients on hand. I’m a little worried about the insomnia, but I’ve never had an issue with insomnia from stacking. My insomnia is from something else.
I hear you on that note — just make sure you take your last dose no later than 4P. It would also help you to start a the lowest dose and then work up to a recommended dose. — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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Laura-dear! Hey, I am right there with ya on the "fit fat person" list – constantly exercising with much lesser results than most of our posters – its frustrating, and perhaps frustration inclines one to cheat. However I doubt ONE brownie cheat can screw up your three weeks – you might gain 3-4 pounds of WATER but there is no way you ate 3 or 4 times 3500 calories that it would take for you to gain 3-4 pounds of fat. So just hop back on the induction wagon and lets go girlie!! And 8 pounds in a month is alot for we slow losers – a very tough goal. Dont’ beat yourself up over it – I am having difficulty with 5 pounds this month. — -Beth BikeE FX, AT and rans gliss Anchorage, Alaska http://home.gci.net/~dawg/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been stuck for the past two weeks but have been doing very well at soldiering on and not cheating or giving up, until tonight. I ate a load of brownies and of course that is going to knock me out of ketosis and put on about 3 or 4 pounds immediately, which pretty much takes me right back to where I was 3 weeks ago. I’m so frustrated, I just can’t seem to break the 173 pound barrier. I need to lose about 35 pounds, and it’s just so difficult. I get going fine for a couple of weeks and then I’ll go and do something like this. I know that if I were reading someone else’s post I’d tell them that they shouldn’t give up and one mistake like this won’t matter in the long run so long as they get right back on track…but for me it seems that I just keep making that one mistake and I never get anywhere. I wasn’t even hungry. I could have said no. Jeeze, I sound like a junkie who fell off the wagon. Wait, I am a junkie (sugar junkie) and I did fall off the wagon. I’m just mad and annoyed. You’d think that with all the exercise I do that the weight would just be falling off me. I swear I’m the most fit fat person in the world. I Nordic Track three times a week, alternate with lifing weights three times a week. I take three hours of ballet a week, two hours of Pilates, 4 hours of ballroom class, and another four hours of ballroom practice. It’s not like I’m sitting on my butt all day hoping that I’ll shape up — this amounts to about sixteen hours a week of movement and exercise. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself. I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat. Feeling sorry for myself, Laura
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After reading Mike, Nina, and Scott’s post they’ve covered most of what I would have so I’m not going to repeat anything they’ve already written. I would add that if you have problems sleeping that you might want not take the last dose of ECA too late in the day. Also, start off a the lowest dose and work up your tolerance. — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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First, with all that exercise you need a lot of calories. Do you think it’s possible that you’re not eating *enough*, and that you binged on the brownies because your body was craving energy? I know you said you weren’t hungry, but I have to say I mistrust our ability sometimes to know when our bodies are hungry. It’s all so wrapped up in emotions and guilt and feelings of self-control (or lack thereof).
This was something I was also thinking. I think our body communicates with your brains in was we don’t always understand. Its just so hard to separate what might be psychological from physical. — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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This all makes a lot of sense. When I started my WT/cardio in December, I noticed my appetite increased quite a bit. I just went along with it and ate LC whenever I was hungry. I’ve noticed now that my appetite has returned to about what it was pre-exercise. Donna C. 159/121.5/125??? 5′ 7" Atkins since 8/99 Maintenance since 10/13/00 Weight training since 12/22/00 writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – First, with all that exercise you need a lot of calories. Do you think it’s possible that you’re not eating *enough*, and that you binged on the brownies because your body was craving energy? I know you said you weren’t hungry, but I have to say I mistrust our ability sometimes to know when our bodies are hungry. It’s all so wrapped up in emotions and guilt and feelings of self-control (or lack thereof). This was something I was also thinking. I think our body communicates with your brains in was we don’t always understand. Its just so hard to separate what might be psychological from physical. — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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And 8 pounds in a month is alot for we slow losers – a very tough goal.
That’s for sure. My goal for February is going to be 5 pounds. It would be convenient if I could average a pound a week, though. Well, we’ll see. My husband and I were sprinting for the streetcar the other day and he said "wow, you’re getting pretty fast." So the exercise is paying off. Since I’m smaller than him I actually got going and stayed with him over the short distance, which has never been the case before. He can still outrun me over distances longer than a block — he was a long distance runner in his youth, and even though he’s piled on the pounds too, he still has amazing strength in his legs. Laura
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Your hubby must be a very special guy, to trust beautiful laura with the hunky dance partners. Its creat that you have such a good relationship that you can pursue what you love! — -Beth BikeE FX, AT and rans gliss Anchorage, Alaska http://home.gci.net/~dawg/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And 8 pounds in a month is alot for we slow losers – a very tough goal. That’s for sure. My goal for February is going to be 5 pounds. It would be convenient if I could average a pound a week, though. Well, we’ll see. My husband and I were sprinting for the streetcar the other day and he said "wow, you’re getting pretty fast." So the exercise is paying off. Since I’m smaller than him I actually got going and stayed with him over the short distance, which has never been the case before. He can still outrun me over distances longer than a block — he was a long distance runner in his youth, and even though he’s piled on the pounds too, he still has amazing strength in his legs. Laura
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First, with all that exercise you need a lot of calories. Do you think it’s possible that you’re not eating *enough*, and that you binged on the brownies because your body was craving energy? I know you said you weren’t hungry, but I have to say I mistrust our ability sometimes to know when our bodies are hungry. It’s all so wrapped up in emotions and guilt and feelings of self-control (or lack thereof). This was something I was also thinking. I think our body communicates with your brains in was we don’t always understand. Its just so hard to separate what might be psychological from physical.
I think there’s something to this idea. I was very tired and cold for several days around the time of the binge…taking naps and wearing extra sweaters. People were even telling me that I looked tired. So yesterday I made sure I ate, I mean really ate. And today I feel fine (not like I need a long nap) and I’m not cold either — and the brownie-binge weight is starting to come off. I guess that, unbeknownst to me, my body was shutting down! And I really thought I was eating enough. And my insomnia is gone — I wonder if my body wasn’t letting me sleep because it was trying to drive me into the kitchen to eat something? Which leads into my next theory…I noticed at one point the last time I was seriously low-carbing that I feel better and lose weight more steadily at a somewhat higher carb level than Induction. I’m thinking that at 25-30 grams of carbs a day I simply consume more food, thereby getting enough calories. This is all so very interesting, now that I’m no longer upset about it! Thanks for your suggestions everyone! Laura (178.5/173[175.5]/140 since 01/01/01)
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First, with all that exercise you need a lot of calories. Do you think it’s possible that you’re not eating *enough*, and that you binged on the brownies because your body was craving energy? I know you said you weren’t hungry, but I have to say I mistrust our ability sometimes to know when our bodies are hungry. It’s all so wrapped up in emotions and guilt and feelings of self-control (or lack thereof).
Tip: If someone reaches in front of you at the table to get salt or something, and you take a bite out of their forearm, you’re hungry. Just a thought. 
-B [loves them tastey forearm sections] This was something I was also thinking. I think our body communicates with your brains in was we don’t always understand. Its just so hard to separate what might be psychological from physical. — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been stuck for the past two weeks but have been doing very well at soldiering on and not cheating or giving up, until tonight. I ate a load of brownies and of course that is going to knock me out of ketosis and put on about 3 or 4 pounds immediately, which pretty much takes me right back to where I was 3 weeks ago. I’m so frustrated, I just can’t seem to break the 173 pound barrier. I need to lose about 35 pounds, and it’s just so difficult. I get going fine for a couple of weeks and then I’ll go and do something like this. I know that if I were reading someone else’s post I’d tell them that they shouldn’t give up and one mistake like this won’t matter in the long run so long as they get right back on track…but for me it seems that I just keep making that one mistake and I never get anywhere. I wasn’t even hungry. I could have said no. Jeeze, I sound like a junkie who fell off the wagon. Wait, I am a junkie (sugar junkie) and I did fall off the wagon. I’m just mad and annoyed. You’d think that with all the exercise I do that the weight would just be falling off me. I swear I’m the most fit fat person in the world. I Nordic Track three times a week, alternate with lifing weights three times a week. I take three hours of ballet a week, two hours of Pilates, 4 hours of ballroom class, and another four hours of ballroom practice. It’s not like I’m sitting on my butt all day hoping that I’ll shape up — this amounts to about sixteen hours a week of movement and exercise. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself. I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat. Feeling sorry for myself, Laura
Oh, Laura. 
I feel for you. It gets so frustrating! I did have a couple of thoughts on your post. First, with all that exercise you need a lot of calories. Do you think it’s possible that you’re not eating *enough*, and that you binged on the brownies because your body was craving energy? I know you said you weren’t hungry, but I have to say I mistrust our ability sometimes to know when our bodies are hungry. It’s all so wrapped up in emotions and guilt and feelings of self-control (or lack thereof). The other thought that crossed my mind is whether you’re eating any foods that, though legal for LC, are poisonous to you? I’m going through something like that right now — I’ve been eating perfectly low-carb legal for months, have been exercising diligently, and have been stuck right about where you are — between 170 and 175. This past Monday I decided to cut dairy out of my diet (and mind you I’d been eating it since I starting low-carbing with no ill effects) — and though tomorrow is weigh-day and I can’t say at the moment whether this is working or not, I still feel like cutting my diet down to the basics — meat and lc veggies — is a necessary step for me right now. Good luck, and don’t despair! And congrats on your new dancing partner! — Anne 253/170/153 — 5′5" 1st Goal: Jeans size 22/10/10 (reached 8/30/00) 2nd Goal: To reach the century mark — at 153 I’ll have lost 100 lb. 3rd Goal: BF 52%/30.5%/25% (Protein Power formula) Atkins/Protein Power since 7/99
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Also consider Yohimbine with your cardio/intervals, and do it on an empty stomach (don’t take ECA within a few hours of taking Yohimbine). Read Elzi Volk’s article on Yohimbine (especially the second page, which is more practical-oriented): http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/volk/yohimbine.htm I gotta just jump here – be careful doing Y with intervals. I tried it once, felt like I was going to have a heart attack – and you’re talking to someone who stacks 3X a day.
The key to using Y with intervals is to take the Y *immediately* before starting intervals, so that you are actually done with the exertion by the time the Y takes effect (with regular cardio, take it 30′ before starting).
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Read www.drumlib.com’s ECA info first — note that the loss of side-effects does NOT mean that ECA has "stopped working". Also consider Yohimbine with your cardio/intervals, and do it on an empty stomach (don’t take ECA within a few hours of taking Yohimbine). Read Elzi Volk’s article on Yohimbine (especially the second page, which is more practical-oriented): http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/volk/yohimbine.htm
I gotta just jump here – be careful doing Y with intervals. I tried it once, felt like I was going to have a heart attack – and you’re talking to someone who stacks 3X a day. After being called a "moron" by someone near and dear to me after I tried this experiment, I now do extended sessions of moderate cardio (40-50 minutes) when I take Y. YMMV. Cheers, Nina — 100% Angst http://www.theslack.com
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– are you only going by the scales, could you be dropping BF%. My Tanita scale really pisses me off. Whenever I gain weight, it says my BF% lower. For example, yesterday I weighed 174 with a BF% of 42%. Today it says I weigh 176 with a BF% of 39.5%. I’m sure this is wrong.
No, it’s an expected result of glycogen replenishment. The Tanita counts glycogen as "muscle" in my experience, so when you carb-up (planned or unplanned), you replace muscle and liver glycogen (the latter occurs unless you’re taking in pure glucose or glucose polymers), and Tanita "counts" this as LBM. If you go back on induction and strip the glycogen to minimal levels (70 mmol?), you may find your scale weight a tad lower than when you started. So then I got one of those skin fold caliper thingys, and I don’t trust that either. I’m an ex-engineer, I’m good at following directions, yet I still get readings that can’t possibly be right. One time I measured and it said my BF% was 28%. Another time it was 35%. The day that my Tanita said 42% the fat calipers said 30.7%. So I feel like there is nothing I can believe.
It’s hard to impossible to measure yourself unless you’re an EXPERT, partially because the pain response may have you pinching a bit differently each time. If you can teach hubby how to do it, you may get more consistent results (and keep in mind the actual number is less relevant to you than getting consistent deltas). – can you increase the intensity of your Nordic Track exercise Yeah, my work out can be modified to be set up as a series of sprints.
You may well find fat loss responding better to intervals than steady cardio, especially since you’re not doing it that way now. (Any change in routine makes the body re-adapt). I’m not sure I’m in favor of me trying a CKD or TKD. I’ll look into the other suggestions first. I didn’t want to stack all the time, but maybe now is a good time to bring it on, to get me over this rubber-band hump I’m on.
Read www.drumlib.com’s ECA info first — note that the loss of side-effects does NOT mean that ECA has "stopped working". Also consider Yohimbine with your cardio/intervals, and do it on an empty stomach (don’t take ECA within a few hours of taking Yohimbine). Read Elzi Volk’s article on Yohimbine (especially the second page, which is more practical-oriented): http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/volk/yohimbine.htm — Scott yosemite at accesscom.com "There’s a voice in my head that drives my heel" — G.E.
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I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat. Suddenly the tray of brownies becomes rather more explicable. It sounds from this armchair like a ‘I’m under a lot of stress and these brownies are the *least* of my problems’ kind of thing.
I keep forgetting that GOOD things can cause stress too. For the past two years I’ve been looking for a decent partner for competitive ballroom dancing. On January 5 I was introduced to someone, and we started practicing together on the 9th. It’s going well…we had our first coaching session on the 18th. A dream I’ve had for several years now seems to be coming true. Now I *really* need to get rid of that extra 35 pounds though. We’re planning to compete for the first time on April 13. I’d love to have lost 10 or 15 pounds by then….and in the back of my mind I’m afraid they guy will dump me for a thinner partner if I don’t, although he’s been very supportive so far and really has given me nothing to worry about, it’s just my own insecurities. Well, I’ve gotten through most of today doing things right again… drinking my water, eating very low-carb meals, worked out on the Nordic Track, went to dance practice. I know the weight loss will take care of itself, I just have to hang in there. Thanks, Laura
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My Tanita scale really pisses me off. Whenever I gain weight, it says my BF% lower. For example, yesterday I weighed 174 with a BF% of 42%. Today it says I weigh 176 with a BF% of 39.5%. I’m sure this is wrong.
The Tanita is notoriously off for women. It depends where you carry your fat, how well hydrated you are, and the phases of the moon. 
So then I got one of those skin fold caliper thingys, and I don’t trust that either. I’m an ex-engineer, I’m good at following directions, yet I still get readings that can’t possibly be right. One time I measured and it said my BF% was 28%. Another time it was 35%. The day that my Tanita said 42% the fat calipers said 30.7%. So I feel like there is nothing I can believe.
I have been told that measuring anyone (much less yourself) with calipers is something that takes a while to get the hang of. Someone once told me (Lyle, maybe?) that they thought a trainer had to do 100 readings before they had the process down and were doing it correctly. So don’t sweat the calipers too much. The problem comes with getting some consistency, and it seems like the scale is your only means of measuring. I’d suggest calling up the local YMCA and seeing if they could take your BF readings there to start with? Maybe they could also show you (sometimes easier than reading the directions) how to take measurements? Just a few thoughts. For me, I’m always black and blue after skinfold readings. I list it somewheres up there with root canal surgery and counting calories. Cheers, Nina — 100% Angst http://www.theslack.com
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Good idea. I even have the ingredients on hand. I’m a little worried about the insomnia, but I’ve never had an issue with insomnia from stacking. My insomnia is from something else.
I tried stacking for a while. I found it made me sweat like a pig. I’m not saying it wasn’t *effective*, but I didn’t find it worth it, personally. My Tanita scale really pisses me off. Whenever I gain weight, it says my BF% lower. For example, yesterday I weighed 174 with a BF% of 42%. Today it says I weigh 176 with a BF% of 39.5%. I’m sure this is wrong.
Doesn’t sound *right*, no. So then I got one of those skin fold caliper thingys, and I don’t trust that either. I’m an ex-engineer, I’m good at following directions, yet I still get readings that can’t possibly be right. One time I measured and it said my BF% was 28%. Another time it was 35%. The day that my Tanita said 42% the fat calipers said 30.7%. So I feel like there is nothing I can believe.
I have never used them, but I suspect that the skin fold reading would depend upon water retention, so your cycle may cause the readings to rise and fall. That’s just an unschooled hunch. — Mike Graham | Steel-fitter and CWB-certified weldor metalmangler at headwaters dot com | Raiser of horses
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I’ve been stuck for the past two weeks but have been doing very well at soldiering on and not cheating or giving up, until tonight. I ate a load of brownies and of course that is going to knock me out of ketosis and put on about 3 or 4 pounds immediately, which pretty much takes me right back to where I was 3 weeks ago.
No it won’t! Three weeks of slow losing is nowhere near the same as a binge gain. The binge gain will be water, and you’ll get rid of the vast majority of it in a couple of days. It might even kick-start your metabolism. I have every intention of being a pig for valentines, for instance. Don’t sweat it, just keep going. get anywhere. I wasn’t even hungry. I could have said no. Jeeze, I sound like a junkie who fell off the wagon. Wait, I am a junkie (sugar junkie) and I did fall off the wagon.
Well, this isn’t a 12-step, but the point is noted – junk food can be an addiction. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself.
Beating yourself up won’t help, but then you knew that. I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat.
Suddenly the tray of brownies becomes rather more explicable. It sounds from this armchair like a ‘I’m under a lot of stress and these brownies are the *least* of my problems’ kind of thing. — Mike Graham | Steel-fitter and CWB-certified weldor metalmangler at headwaters dot com | Raiser of horses
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I’ve only read a few of your post so forgive me it some of this has already been covered. Just a few suggestions: – can you stack?
Good idea. I even have the ingredients on hand. I’m a little worried about the insomnia, but I’ve never had an issue with insomnia from stacking. My insomnia is from something else. – are you only going by the scales, could you be dropping BF%.
My Tanita scale really pisses me off. Whenever I gain weight, it says my BF% lower. For example, yesterday I weighed 174 with a BF% of 42%. Today it says I weigh 176 with a BF% of 39.5%. I’m sure this is wrong. So then I got one of those skin fold caliper thingys, and I don’t trust that either. I’m an ex-engineer, I’m good at following directions, yet I still get readings that can’t possibly be right. One time I measured and it said my BF% was 28%. Another time it was 35%. The day that my Tanita said 42% the fat calipers said 30.7%. So I feel like there is nothing I can believe. – can you increase the intensity of your Nordic Track exercise
Yeah, my work out can be modified to be set up as a series of sprints. – have you tried altering the ratios of what you eat, if its higher fat now, going toward higher protein, or the opposite?
No, haven’t messed with that. I’ve been at about 20-22 grams of carbs a day, moderate fat content. I’m going to start keeping a food diary and see how I’m doing calorically, and then also to see what happens if I start changing the diet around. I’m not sure I’m in favor of me trying a CKD or TKD. I’ll look into the other suggestions first. I didn’t want to stack all the time, but maybe now is a good time to bring it on, to get me over this rubber-band hump I’m on. Thanks for your suggestions, Laura (178.5/173[176]/140 since 01-01-01)
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Well hell, with all that exercise, don’t you think it’s possible that the muscle you’re building is offsetting the actual fat you’re losing?
How much muscle can I build? I mean, that reason only holds water for so long. I’ve been doing the ballet for 6 months, the ballroom dance for 3 1/2 years (well, started at 2 hours a week and am now up to 8), the Pilates for a month, and the weight training/Nordic Track for a month. Also, I’m very suspect of my methods for determining my body fat percentage. My Tanita seems worthless (yesterday, 174 pounds and 42% body fat, today 176 pounds and 39.5% body fat), as do my "Fat Track" skin fold calipers (on different days in a 1 week period, 28%, 30.7%, 35%). Ok, granted I have been finding some muscles in my legs that I really had no idea were there, so that should be a good thing. But still, how much muscle can I expect to gain? I’m nearly 36 years old. If someone could tell me how much muscle mass women tend to lose per decade after age 18, that would help me understand what is going on with my body. Do you notice any difference in the way your clothes fit, even though you still weigh the same amount on the scale?
I have some measurements from November, my waist was 30", and now it’s 32". That’s right…even though my weight is the same (within 2 pounds) I am actually bigger around the middle than before. I’m sure just 2 pounds doesn’t account for that! So what happened? I’ve been doing a lot of abdominal work, so it seems I could be building muscle under the fat layer…but the damn fat layer just sits there. I think I’m fighting some sort of set point in my body, one that is so strong that the sight of ‘bad’ food affects me like a junkie. Man this is awful. Funny how Dr. Atkins never tells you about this. I’m sure in his "hundreds of thousands of patients" there had to be someone who went through what I am. Well, nothing to do but keep going. Those damn brownies will win if I give up now, you know? Thanks, Laura (178.5/173[176]/140 — since 01/01/01)
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I’ve been stuck for the past two weeks but have been doing very well at soldiering on and not cheating or giving up, until tonight. I ate a load of brownies and of course that is going to knock me out of ketosis and put on about 3 or 4 pounds immediately, which pretty much takes me right back to where I was 3 weeks ago. I’m so frustrated, I just can’t seem to break the 173 pound barrier. I need to lose about 35 pounds, and it’s just so difficult. I get going fine for a couple of weeks and then I’ll go and do something like this. I know that if I were reading someone else’s post I’d tell them that they shouldn’t give up and one mistake like this won’t matter in the long run so long as they get right back on track…but for me it seems that I just keep making that one mistake and I never get anywhere. I wasn’t even hungry. I could have said no. Jeeze, I sound like a junkie who fell off the wagon. Wait, I am a junkie (sugar junkie) and I did fall off the wagon. I’m just mad and annoyed. You’d think that with all the exercise I do that the weight would just be falling off me. I swear I’m the most fit fat person in the world. I Nordic Track three times a week, alternate with lifing weights three times a week. I take three hours of ballet a week, two hours of Pilates, 4 hours of ballroom class, and another four hours of ballroom practice. It’s not like I’m sitting on my butt all day hoping that I’ll shape up — this amounts to about sixteen hours a week of movement and exercise. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself. I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat. Feeling sorry for myself, Laura
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I’m just mad and annoyed. You’d think that with all the exercise I do that the weight would just be falling off me. I swear I’m the most fit fat person in the world. I Nordic Track three times a week, alternate with lifing weights three times a week. I take three hours of ballet a week, two hours of Pilates, 4 hours of ballroom class, and another four hours of ballroom practice. It’s not like I’m sitting on my butt all day hoping that I’ll shape up — this amounts to about sixteen hours a week of movement and exercise.
I’m tired, mad and annoyed just reading about how much exercise your doing and nothings happening! I’ve only read a few of your post so forgive me it some of this has already been covered. Just a few suggestions: – can you stack? – are you only going by the scales, could you be dropping BF%. – can you increase the intensity of your Nordic Track exercise (because it certainly doesn’t look like you can increase the time) – have you tried altering the ratios of what you eat, if its higher fat now, going toward higher protein, or the opposite? I get going fine for a couple of weeks and then I’ll go and do something like this.
Now for something completely radical… maybe you should work with this tendency than against it. As you know I use TKD, and sometimes a loose CKD style plan. Something that I’m playing around with now is what I’m getting from "The Metabolic Diet", by Mauro Di Pasquale, MD (although I still have not finished the book yet). You might consider getting this book and thinking about following L-C a little differently, especially since you’re doing so much exercise, and since you’ve been l-c for awhile now. As odd as it might sound, when I really plan out a weekly carb-up, I end up doing slightly better. Its a mix of being able to work out harder due to the glycogen replenishing, working very hard toward depletion again (I deplete and lose a little along the way), and knowing that I’m going to be getting a break (and therefore don’t blow things BIG TIME). The key is to be careful during the carb-up. Do you think you could do something like that? — Rudy – Remove the Z from my address to respond. Check out the a.s.d.l-c FAQ at: http://www.grossweb.com/asdlc/faq.htm
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Laura, I’m with you… Well hell, with all that exercise, don’t you think it’s possible that the muscle you’re building is offsetting the actual fat you’re losing? Muscle weighs a lot more than fat. If you are consistently elevating your heart rate for periods longer than 10 minutes at a time, it’s almost inevitable for your body to respond by building muscle and extending your cardiovascular endurance capacity. Do you notice any difference in the way your clothes fit, even though you still weigh the same amount on the scale? If you do, then you’re just getting more toned, and scale weight should be less relevant. Your body can’t ignore the exercise you’re putting it through. At least that’s one thing it can’t seem to ignore, if you know what I mean! <g It seems to do a hell of a job of ignoring you when you eat too little or something. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself.
Wow, I have said almost that exact same thing to myself many times. And I am in that mode right now too, and I’d like to find my way back to the way I was *before* the holidays, steadfast and unwavering, with nothing and nobody being able to cause me to cheat. Now I just waver, with only small fits and starts of eating low carb. I feel like a failure too. Sob sob.
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Oh Laura I can so relate to you and your frustrations…. I can’t really offer any firm suggestions of what might make the scale start moving once again. It sounds to me that you are doing everything right. Those brownies aren’t the end of it all. Just a break. Get past them, keep up the exercise if you can. Do you feel better, healthier and happier about you food choices today then you did before low carbing? If you can answer yes, then there is an answer, low carb is good for you. I could go on and suggest you take body measurements, I could ask if you clothes are fitting different and I could ask you to post your menus. (including everything that goes in your mouth), but I feel you have analyzed, reanalyzed and probably over analyzed all of that. Just enjoy the better health in general, put the scale away for awhile and chill. The number game can really mess with my attitude, which in turn affects my WOE. If you can tuck that away for a month and continue all the good things you are doing, I feel sure that in a month there will be a difference. Remember, a watched pot never boils…. Hang in there dear! — Sheila Started Atkins 12/27/99 180/145/140 5′6" icq 6779479 http://people.atl.mediaone.net/bigt1/turkey.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been stuck for the past two weeks but have been doing very well at soldiering on and not cheating or giving up, until tonight. I ate a load of brownies and of course that is going to knock me out of ketosis and put on about 3 or 4 pounds immediately, which pretty much takes me right back to where I was 3 weeks ago. I’m so frustrated, I just can’t seem to break the 173 pound barrier. I need to lose about 35 pounds, and it’s just so difficult. I get going fine for a couple of weeks and then I’ll go and do something like this. I know that if I were reading someone else’s post I’d tell them that they shouldn’t give up and one mistake like this won’t matter in the long run so long as they get right back on track…but for me it seems that I just keep making that one mistake and I never get anywhere. I wasn’t even hungry. I could have said no. Jeeze, I sound like a junkie who fell off the wagon. Wait, I am a junkie (sugar junkie) and I did fall off the wagon. I’m just mad and annoyed. You’d think that with all the exercise I do that the weight would just be falling off me. I swear I’m the most fit fat person in the world. I Nordic Track three times a week, alternate with lifing weights three times a week. I take three hours of ballet a week, two hours of Pilates, 4 hours of ballroom class, and another four hours of ballroom practice. It’s not like I’m sitting on my butt all day hoping that I’ll shape up — this amounts to about sixteen hours a week of movement and exercise. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself. I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat. Feeling sorry for myself, Laura
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Hi laura, As a very new newbie, I cant give you any solid advice, but from my heart I just want to tell you not to beat yourself up about this. Tomorrow is another day, the sun is still going to come up, and you can pull yourself up and continue to fight the sugar monster. Keep you chin up.. DJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been stuck for the past two weeks but have been doing very well at soldiering on and not cheating or giving up, until tonight. I ate a load of brownies and of course that is going to knock me out of ketosis and put on about 3 or 4 pounds immediately, which pretty much takes me right back to where I was 3 weeks ago. I’m so frustrated, I just can’t seem to break the 173 pound barrier. I need to lose about 35 pounds, and it’s just so difficult. I get going fine for a couple of weeks and then I’ll go and do something like this. I know that if I were reading someone else’s post I’d tell them that they shouldn’t give up and one mistake like this won’t matter in the long run so long as they get right back on track…but for me it seems that I just keep making that one mistake and I never get anywhere. I wasn’t even hungry. I could have said no. Jeeze, I sound like a junkie who fell off the wagon. Wait, I am a junkie (sugar junkie) and I did fall off the wagon. I’m just mad and annoyed. You’d think that with all the exercise I do that the weight would just be falling off me. I swear I’m the most fit fat person in the world. I Nordic Track three times a week, alternate with lifing weights three times a week. I take three hours of ballet a week, two hours of Pilates, 4 hours of ballroom class, and another four hours of ballroom practice. It’s not like I’m sitting on my butt all day hoping that I’ll shape up — this amounts to about sixteen hours a week of movement and exercise. I’m very sad, and have betrayed myself. I wanted to lose eight pounds this month, that was my goal in the Challege, and I’m not even close. And to top it all off, I’ve had insomnia from hell for the past three nights, which is why I’m here at 5 in the morning typing rather than cuddled in bed with my husband and my cat. Feeling sorry for myself, Laura
