ECA Stacking and 5-HTP
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"Has anyone tried ECA and 5-HTP at the same time? I have checked the web for info, but would like to hear from people who have used either or both. I am trying Thermadrine, but haven’t had any side effects and feel more sleepier that usual." Dave, It’s odd that Thermadrine would make you sleepy. In general, I think combining precursor nutrients with ECA is a good approach for people with large appetites. After the initial stimulation wears off, ECA works primarily through increasing energy expenditure. This works for many people but if your appetite is large, there are several precursors that can be used with ECA. 5-HTP, however, is debatable. Some scientists have expressed a concern that 5-HTP might be converted to serotonin in the BLOOD before it gets to the brain. This could dramatically increase serotonin in the blood leading (possibly) to right heart fibrosis and heart failure. This is NOT a problem with the amino acid tryptophan, which the FDA banned after a single contaminated batch was sold. Unlike other such occurrences, they never let tryptophan back on the market under the absurd false pretense that the essential amino acid ITSELF is dangerous. This assault on the free market left people with obesity, insomnia, and many other problems looking for something, ANYTHING to fill the gap. This led to the introduction of 5-HTP. Unfortunately, if there are any problems associated with 5-HTP, the mass media will flood the public with anti-supplement propaganda rather than identifying the real cause of the problem. It’s an old story: misinformed people trading more and more of their freedom for the illusion of "protection and safety." If you take 5-HTP supplements, get a urine test for 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA) periodically. If 5-HTP is being converted to serotonin in the blood there will be a large increase in 5-HIAA, which is a metabolite of serotonin. If the 5-HTP supplements do not cause your 5-HIAA level to become abnormally high there *should* not be a peripheral serotonin problem. — Please, if you do not want the FDA to ban the OTC sale of ephedrine, use the link below and send e-mail to Congress. They WILL ban ephedrine if we remain silent. We need to let them know about the research that proves ECA is safe and effective. Public protest stopped the FDA from banning amino acids. Your mail DOES make a difference. Let me know how they respond. Here is the E-mail Congress link: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress E-mail the President: Join the fight for health freedom: http://lef.org/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=fda2.htm Want access to medications without interference from Big Brother? Check out the Libertarian Party: http://www.lp.org Free PubMed medical abstracts: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/boolean.html Disclaimer: The author is a self-educated man with no formal medical education. This is written for information purposes only. The information in this document should NOT be used as a substitute for a physician’s examination and advice. Copyright (c) 1999 by DrumLib. All rights reserved. Live Long and Prosper! DrumLib (Drummer & Libertarian)
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Hi, Has anyone tried ECA and 5-HTP at the same time? I have checked the web for info, but would like to hear from people who have used either or both. I am trying Thermadrine, but haven’t had any side effects and feel more sleepier that usual. Thanks for any info you can provide. Dave
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I would be interested to hear about this combination also. I have tried 5htp but didn’t find any noticeable difference. Now keep in mind I’ve experienced the effects of fenfluramine which I imagine will never be beat. I also can’t afford to buy the high dossage of 5htp that some studies suggest using. I have tried the eca stack and found that I had trouble sleeping at night. Maybe this was unrelated to the eca stack and then once I thought that it was my mind started playing games on me. One day I did something really stupid, I took a double dose of the stack one morning. Maybe it was my imagination but I could really hear my heart thumping that morning. I just thought that instead of tacking it 3 times I would take a double dose once and still be able to sleep at night. It was really stupid I know and I will never do it again. I never used the stack again after that. I was afraid that I might have done damage to my heart or something. I could just read the headlines. Woman od’s on ephedrine fda bans it sale. then you’d guys would be able to thank me for giving them just cause. Respectfully keyre – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Has anyone tried ECA and 5-HTP at the same time? I have checked the web for info, but would like to hear from people who have used either or both. I am trying Thermadrine, but haven’t had any side effects and feel more sleepier that usual. Thanks for any info you can provide. Dave
