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"Cropsey" <cropsey2…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111130687.063006.10620@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Well, here I sit once again at 2:00 or so in the morning and I have > gone through my usual haunts looking for something interesting to keep > my mind occupied. > Seems there are hardly any topics here. :-( Not that this place is > usually full of them, but I was just wondering if there was anyone like > me who just wants to chat. Besides, I am a little sad thar tyabri is > off the table and I am back to injections every day. > I am just kind of bored. I took a painkiller and that will inevitably > keep me awake for at least most of the night and tomorrow will be busy, > but I guess that is OK. I miss BUSY. I miss having something to do. > I searched my three kids again in Coppernic and Google to make try and > keep tabs on them. Looks like they are being good or at least they > have learned to cover their tracks pretty well. > Anyway, just a thought. Seems like if you reply to the message board > it ends up in junk mail and I find it by luck. I have another email > address too which is IMSUM1NOW2 (AT) netscape.com…. So if you wanna > talk…. Let’s. Please note this is not a search for anything like > sexual companionship…. I have that. AND I am not unhappy there. I > just wanna know some people. That’s all. > I usually like to insert humor in to my posts somewhere, but I am > avoiding the urge. Besides I cannot think of anything funny. > But listen, remember strawberries, watermelons and lollipops…. > I hope everyone is well. I swear… > Regards. > Eric
Where are you that its past 2:00 already? Its only 11:30 here. (Oregon) I too am an insomniac and I hate it. But I have it whether or not Im on a med. Im a born night owl I guess. Rob
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Florida. And I have been a night person since teendom. I used to think it was a blessing. I figured if I stayed up one night per week, then I would get to live ‘x’ amount of years longer than everyone. Then came kids. :-) Not to mention work and other responsabilities. I still find the best T.V. at night, but I somwtimes wish to just shut down. I hardly drink coffee anymore and sleeping pills are useless so I just try and enjoy the moment. In my late teens and early twenties I traveled with a lot of people. I did not want to go to sleep and entrust the driving to an unknown. Oregon is one of like four states I have not been to. I used to love camping and shit and I always thought it was a beautiful destination, but never made it. I did do a lot of time in Colorado and California and I have always tried to convince people not to leave this planet without seeing the Grand Canyon. I kind of dislike Florida, but Broward County I think is one of the most handicap friendly locales in the country. Every Bus has ramps, etc…. I still drive, but when we go to large malls, it reqally makes a difference. Is Oregon beautiful as I have imagined. I would still like to get there someday. I still have lots of family in various parts of California and miss the Redwoods, so I guess you never know. It does not seem to be a priiority right now. But it is certainly on the list. I was in Washington, but have no real desire to go back there. Have you travelled a lot? Eric
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someone in this thread mentioned the humour that was once here….. i love humour and a good laugh, our guy tick has great humour and i find him funny as all get up… there’s others here as well. i just can’t pull there names up for the moment…. and then there’s donn:-)… dory There is so much good in the worst of us and so much bad in the best of us that its rather hard to discern which of us ought to reform the rest of us…..Alain Fournier
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I am pretty sure that firewalls are like locks, they keep the rest of us out…. But the crooks have little problem with them. We all know that if someone wants into your house, no amount of security will stop them. I don’t really care. It is not like I have anything here that anyone could possibly value. (Except me.) It is just all of the crap I have to go through to save my information from being destroyed. I AM glad that I no longer have to worry about stuff like confidential business correspondence. If I was a lawyer, I would be worried. As far as the nudey pictures go, I would be happy to share them. Besides it takes about five minutes to fill up a 20gb hard drive with that crap so there is no reason to even be bored with the same old ones. I don’t really know how to stop them. I know I spend about a half hour a day cleaning my system up, getting rid of temporary files and cookies. I just know that chat rooms, like instant messages open some kind of window and provide anyone opportunity to do what they will. Of course they have to know how. I always wonder though, and this is a serious question, why these people are not using that obviously extensive brain power to good??? I mean with all of the problems we have. Imagine if those brain cells were trying to say find a cure for M.S.? I hope everyone had a happy St. Patrick’s Day and is getting ready for "A Zeisen Pesach", and a Happy Easter… If I missed anything. Sorry. I know there must be some graduations coming up in our families. PHEW… I know I have my baby finishing High School… Amazing. Time flies when you are doing nothing.
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Rob, Basketball? OHHHH how I miss shooting baskets:( I didn’t ever thik that I would one day give up so much but…. I could be worse:) I’mstill working (three 6 hour dys) and I’m fighting to keep at this job. glo
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"Cropsey" <cropsey2…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111218886.637647.147720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have to back up for a moment and apologize to Rose for drifting off > any reasonably relative topic. > I know this is ASMS. I also realize that many of us here pick up our > first glimmerings of "news." > But that said, we are all here to help alleviate some suffering. And > the rambling really does shift MY mind’s focus from the agonies that > come from the "slings and arrows of this outrageous fortune." > My point is that although I drifted here, it is not really taking us to > a bad place. It is only saving us from concentrating on things which > otherwise might make us cry. > I thought the jokes belonged too. (In moderation.) This IS an M.S. > site, but need it be M.S. 24/7 ??? > Does anyone remember a few years ago all of the banter regarding humor > and how it did not really belong here? I think we eventually decided > to just assign a title to the topic leading with "OT." That way > those who just wanted to jump in for a peek did not have to wade > through layers of B.S. > I don’t really remember how that turned out as I took a long absence > from here in the interim, but it seemed to be a worthwhile idea and > perhaps I will lead with that in the title so those who are just into > "news" and "scientific" type topic can easily identify and > steer clear. > But it also occurs to me, we ARE a support group. I was just looking > for someone to chat with and Rob replied. I do not know of chat rooms > and am a bit leery of opening my system to the Java and stuff. I am no > programmer or even much of a computer geek, but I seem to recall that > by opening one of those windows, you open the door to your machine too.
I dont know diddly about computers. I have a firewall. Does that prevent people like you from getting into my computer when they lure me into chatting? You just want my nudy pics dont you? ;^) Seriously though, I havent a clue about it. Folks? Ive been to chatrooms before, but I woulndt have the slightest clue if someone had been shuffling through my system. Ive not been on them much, so maybe it happens more often than Im aware of. If you think you might ever have a problem with me, if thats what your implying, dont worry… Im a safe fellow (ask around) if not one who likes his own opinion a bit much. > I am on my fifth or sixth machine because someone who has the brains to > take us to Mars chose instead to find a way to destroy my data with > glee. > Anyway, if I start another B.S. topic, I will label it as off topic. > And I am truly sorry if I have caused any grief. Smile now please.
:*) Rob
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I get it and thanks.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:29:53 -0800, QQ…@webtv.net wrote: >i guess i’m fortunate that while at a m.s round up i met some msers that >felt like i’d known them all my life. >our friendship grew and we all began a once a year get together…. we >call our friendship the " six pack " and we e-mail everyday with what >ever is on our minds or going on in our lives. >it’s like getting together for coffee, our friendship is priceless…. >we chat and our chat adds to my life more than i can ever say… >i can’t handle chat rooms, don’t even like them….. >chatting with the six pack is filled with trust, support, love, >laughter, and tears, >they don’t mind my cognitive problems and have learned what i’m trying >to convey….. i’ve enjoyed this thread… i call it chatting….. >yep’ to rob, that spends his sleepless nights much like i do…. so rob, >it seems we have a common bond:-) other than just m.s….. i just wish i >could still express in words what i want to say like you do.. >i’m starting to ramble now….. better head for spell check now before i >forget….. dory
My grandfather often reminded me in my youth, there are only three things important to a person?: loved ones, friends and integrity. Donn
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for insomnia all i do is say ”eff it” and then i stay up and watch tv or tend to my crops,,, which are awake all night,, that can be lotsa fun,, then i feel tired at about 4-5am,, i can go to sleep and sleep till 1pm,,, if i cant sleep i just stay up,,in fatc i then make coffee to piss off my brain,, also a sattelite dish is awesome for late night tv,, 50 billion channels,,,,, or go online and talk to my buddies on mariijuana grow sites in the UK,, who are awake ,,, bobbyD "Dangerous" <danger…@telus.net> wrote in message
news:nZX_d.46269$ZO2.15739@edtnps84… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Following link has and idea about what an insomniac person looks like. > http://members.cox.net/ladysarakat/piggy.swf > — > Dora > Dangerous with Attitude > I do it cause I can > "Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com> wrote in message > news:gfGdnbOuYNkVOKbfRVn-vg@gbronline.com… >> <QQ…@webtv.net> wrote in message >> news:17860-423B84CA-1239@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net… >>> i’m one of those insomniacs too. i also ramble away at times. >>> i also go to the redwoods every year and i’ve traveled around about a >>> bit….. >>> i’m considering going to a sleep study center and try to get my sleeper >>> fixed. this being up at night is the pits…. i usually spend my nights >>> going to science web sites…. dang i’m always tired …… dory >> Dory I think Ive been following suit. You pretty much described me. >> Insomniac, ramble, science web sites, tired… Lately though Ive been >> managing to fall asleep sooner than usual, and when I dont, I get out of >> bed for 15 minutes or so and do something, then right back to bed to try >> again. I think only us good looking people have insomnia. >> Rob
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So this is why you did not make it to the MS luncheon. You slept till ONE LOL Let me know if you want a reminder for next month. Besides you missed my performance. — Dora Dangerous with Attitude I do it cause I can "bobbyD" <phatbhatREM…@telus.net> wrote in message
news:lP5%d.81556$fc4.49275@edtnps89… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> for insomnia all i do is say ”eff it” and then i stay up and watch tv > or tend to my crops,,, which are awake all night,, that can be lotsa fun,, > then i feel tired at about 4-5am,, i can go to sleep and sleep till 1pm,,, > if i cant sleep i just stay up,,in fatc i then make coffee to piss off my > brain,, also a sattelite dish is awesome for late night tv,, 50 billion > channels,,,,, or go online and talk to my buddies on mariijuana grow > sites in the UK,, who are awake ,,, > bobbyD > "Dangerous" <danger…@telus.net> wrote in message > news:nZX_d.46269$ZO2.15739@edtnps84… >> Following link has and idea about what an insomniac person looks like. >> http://members.cox.net/ladysarakat/piggy.swf >> — >> Dora >> Dangerous with Attitude >> I do it cause I can >> "Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com> wrote in message >> news:gfGdnbOuYNkVOKbfRVn-vg@gbronline.com… >>> <QQ…@webtv.net> wrote in message >>> news:17860-423B84CA-1239@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net… >>>> i’m one of those insomniacs too. i also ramble away at times. >>>> i also go to the redwoods every year and i’ve traveled around about a >>>> bit….. >>>> i’m considering going to a sleep study center and try to get my sleeper >>>> fixed. this being up at night is the pits…. i usually spend my nights >>>> going to science web sites…. dang i’m always tired …… dory >>> Dory I think Ive been following suit. You pretty much described me. >>> Insomniac, ramble, science web sites, tired… Lately though Ive been >>> managing to fall asleep sooner than usual, and when I dont, I get out of >>> bed for 15 minutes or so and do something, then right back to bed to try >>> again. I think only us good looking people have insomnia. >>> Rob
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i guess i’m fortunate that while at a m.s round up i met some msers that felt like i’d known them all my life. our friendship grew and we all began a once a year get together…. we call our friendship the " six pack " and we e-mail everyday with what ever is on our minds or going on in our lives. it’s like getting together for coffee, our friendship is priceless…. we chat and our chat adds to my life more than i can ever say… i can’t handle chat rooms, don’t even like them….. chatting with the six pack is filled with trust, support, love, laughter, and tears, they don’t mind my cognitive problems and have learned what i’m trying to convey….. i’ve enjoyed this thread… i call it chatting….. yep’ to rob, that spends his sleepless nights much like i do…. so rob, it seems we have a common bond:-) other than just m.s….. i just wish i could still express in words what i want to say like you do.. i’m starting to ramble now….. better head for spell check now before i forget….. dory
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Following link has and idea about what an insomniac person looks like. http://members.cox.net/ladysarakat/piggy.swf — Dora Dangerous with Attitude I do it cause I can "Rob Duncan" <robdun…@gbronline.com> wrote in message
news:gfGdnbOuYNkVOKbfRVn-vg@gbronline.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> <QQ…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:17860-423B84CA-1239@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net… >> i’m one of those insomniacs too. i also ramble away at times. >> i also go to the redwoods every year and i’ve traveled around about a >> bit….. >> i’m considering going to a sleep study center and try to get my sleeper >> fixed. this being up at night is the pits…. i usually spend my nights >> going to science web sites…. dang i’m always tired …… dory > Dory I think Ive been following suit. You pretty much described me. > Insomniac, ramble, science web sites, tired… Lately though Ive been > managing to fall asleep sooner than usual, and when I dont, I get out of > bed for 15 minutes or so and do something, then right back to bed to try > again. I think only us good looking people have insomnia. > Rob
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Cropsey wrote: > I have to back up for a moment and apologize to Rose for drifting off > any reasonably relative topic.
YIKES Eric, i think we totally misunderstood one another. i’ve never bitched about OT posts, i’m not the usenet police, and agree that support involves more than sharing the latest research news. i thought you were interested in finding a place where you could chat with other folks who had M.S. at any time of the day or night, which is why i suggested a chat board or group. the reason i said ASMS is a usenet newsgroup was just to point out that posts take a certain amount of time to get back and forth, and who replies depends on who’s there at any given time, as i’d ass-umed you were looking for somewhere that you could count on someone always being there to do the insta-chat thing, rather than you just looking for someone to yakk with the particular evening you made the post. in case you ever feel like yakking and no one is here, there are links to chat rooms and boards from the U.S. NMSS, i’m pretty sure — i’ve seen them linked from some of the CRAB drugs’ sites as well. just trying to be helpful, not to slap hands! :-> rose
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -rose wrote: > Cropsey wrote: >>I have to back up for a moment and apologize to Rose for drifting off >>any reasonably relative topic. > YIKES Eric, i think we totally misunderstood one another. i’ve never > bitched about OT posts, i’m not the usenet police, and agree that > support involves more than sharing the latest research news. > i thought you were interested in finding a place where you could chat > with other folks who had M.S. at any time of the day or night, which is > why i suggested a chat board or group. the reason i said ASMS is a > usenet newsgroup was just to point out that posts take a certain amount > of time to get back and forth, and who replies depends on who’s there > at any given time, as i’d ass-umed you were looking for somewhere that > you could count on someone always being there to do the insta-chat > thing, rather than you just looking for someone to yakk with the > particular evening you made the post. > in case you ever feel like yakking and no one is here, there are links > to chat rooms and boards from the U.S. NMSS, i’m pretty sure — i’ve > seen them linked from some of the CRAB drugs’ sites as well. just > trying to be helpful, not to slap hands! :-> > rose
Yeah..and i am really good at answering thing and going way off topic..( holding roses ankles up while rose attempts a handstand). Sometimes i even profess my love for Doe..just so he knows i love him, the little nut case..<smooch> He doesn’t love me back but it has kept him from worming in on any threads i converse in..kiss kiss doeboy
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"Joyce" <j.chil…@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:opOdnUs5UtEHqKbfRVn-vQ@comcast.com… > Hey Rob, is is raining where you are in Oregon, it’s pouring here in > Springfield after a couple of weeks of real warm weather. being in the > valley the allergies are awful, think you are in Portland right ? > Joyce
Yes, Portland. Dont we live in wonderful cities? I love Springfield. Its not raining at the moment. Which is good because I soon need to be doing things outside. Plus the rabbit needs to do some serious running. The other day I was playing some basketball with neighbor kids and Max sat out on the front lawn for about three hours, relaxing, watching. He probably thinks we are nuts. Given our yelling and hooting Id say hes right. The neighbor kids pants were so loose and far down on his hips that even a slight tug would land them down around his ankles when he went up for a lay-up. (not that Im a dirty player mind you.) ;^) Havent we had some pretty good weather lately? I was starting to wonder where all the rain went this year. Appearently its found you. Did you know we are considered a rain forest? Well, the area surrounding Mt Hood is anyway. Rob
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i’m one of those insomniacs too. i also ramble away at times. i also go to the redwoods every year and i’ve traveled around about a bit….. i’m considering going to a sleep study center and try to get my sleeper fixed. this being up at night is the pits…. i usually spend my nights going to science web sites…. dang i’m always tired …… dory
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<QQ…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:17860-423B84CA-1239@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net… > i’m one of those insomniacs too. i also ramble away at times. > i also go to the redwoods every year and i’ve traveled around about a > bit….. > i’m considering going to a sleep study center and try to get my sleeper > fixed. this being up at night is the pits…. i usually spend my nights > going to science web sites…. dang i’m always tired …… dory
Dory I think Ive been following suit. You pretty much described me. Insomniac, ramble, science web sites, tired… Lately though Ive been managing to fall asleep sooner than usual, and when I dont, I get out of bed for 15 minutes or so and do something, then right back to bed to try again. I think only us good looking people have insomnia. Rob
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I have to back up for a moment and apologize to Rose for drifting off any reasonably relative topic. I know this is ASMS. I also realize that many of us here pick up our first glimmerings of "news." But that said, we are all here to help alleviate some suffering. And the rambling really does shift MY mind’s focus from the agonies that come from the "slings and arrows of this outrageous fortune." My point is that although I drifted here, it is not really taking us to a bad place. It is only saving us from concentrating on things which otherwise might make us cry. I thought the jokes belonged too. (In moderation.) This IS an M.S. site, but need it be M.S. 24/7 ??? Does anyone remember a few years ago all of the banter regarding humor and how it did not really belong here? I think we eventually decided to just assign a title to the topic leading with "OT." That way those who just wanted to jump in for a peek did not have to wade through layers of B.S. I don’t really remember how that turned out as I took a long absence from here in the interim, but it seemed to be a worthwhile idea and perhaps I will lead with that in the title so those who are just into "news" and "scientific" type topic can easily identify and steer clear. But it also occurs to me, we ARE a support group. I was just looking for someone to chat with and Rob replied. I do not know of chat rooms and am a bit leery of opening my system to the Java and stuff. I am no programmer or even much of a computer geek, but I seem to recall that by opening one of those windows, you open the door to your machine too. I am on my fifth or sixth machine because someone who has the brains to take us to Mars chose instead to find a way to destroy my data with glee. Anyway, if I start another B.S. topic, I will label it as off topic. And I am truly sorry if I have caused any grief. Smile now please.
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hi eric, i love ASMS, but it is a newsgroup, and possibly you’re looking for something more like a chat board? i know there are some around for people with M.S. and their loved ones; i’m not much for chat these days, prefer newsgroups or e-lists, so i don’t have any URLs handy, but i’ve seen folks mention M.S. chat boards and groups; maybe someone here can hip you up to some good ones? best, rose ‘early to bed and late to play brings one across the abyss, they say.’
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Hey Rob, is is raining where you are in Oregon, it’s pouring here in Springfield after a couple of weeks of real warm weather. being in the valley the allergies are awful, think you are in Portland right ? Joyce
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"Laura" <the_happy_w…@myrealbox.net> wrote in message
news:7sCdnSDslOR8Z6ffRVn-1Q@wideopenwest.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Rob Duncan wrote: >> "Cropsey" <cropsey2…@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1111130687.063006.10620@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com… >>>Well, here I sit once again at 2:00 or so in the morning and I have >>>gone through my usual haunts looking for something interesting to keep >>>my mind occupied. >>>Seems there are hardly any topics here. :-( Not that this place is >>>usually full of them, but I was just wondering if there was anyone like >>>me who just wants to chat. Besides, I am a little sad thar tyabri is >>>off the table and I am back to injections every day. >>>I am just kind of bored. I took a painkiller and that will inevitably >>>keep me awake for at least most of the night and tomorrow will be busy, >>>but I guess that is OK. I miss BUSY. I miss having something to do. >>>I searched my three kids again in Coppernic and Google to make try and >>>keep tabs on them. Looks like they are being good or at least they >>>have learned to cover their tracks pretty well. >>>Anyway, just a thought. Seems like if you reply to the message board >>>it ends up in junk mail and I find it by luck. I have another email >>>address too which is IMSUM1NOW2 (AT) netscape.com…. So if you wanna >>>talk…. Let’s. Please note this is not a search for anything like >>>sexual companionship…. I have that. AND I am not unhappy there. I >>>just wanna know some people. That’s all. >>>I usually like to insert humor in to my posts somewhere, but I am >>>avoiding the urge. Besides I cannot think of anything funny. >>>But listen, remember strawberries, watermelons and lollipops…. >>>I hope everyone is well. I swear… >>>Regards. >>>Eric >> Where are you that its past 2:00 already? Its only 11:30 here. (Oregon) >> I too am an insomniac and I hate it. But I have it whether or not Im on >> a med. Im a born night owl I guess. >> Rob > I have to add that many MSr’s, like me here in ohio are early to bed > types..oh hell I’ve been that way since my 20’s when the neighbors used to > joke that they knew mom and dad were gone cause i went to bed at 9, ‘rents > were/are night owls!! <grin>. I was Born a 90 year old woman.. > Laura (age 43)
Whats the saying? "Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise?" I envy you. Rob
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Rob Duncan wrote: > "Cropsey" <cropsey2…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1111130687.063006.10620@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com… >>Well, here I sit once again at 2:00 or so in the morning and I have >>gone through my usual haunts looking for something interesting to keep >>my mind occupied. >>Seems there are hardly any topics here. :-( Not that this place is >>usually full of them, but I was just wondering if there was anyone like >>me who just wants to chat. Besides, I am a little sad thar tyabri is >>off the table and I am back to injections every day. >>I am just kind of bored. I took a painkiller and that will inevitably >>keep me awake for at least most of the night and tomorrow will be busy, >>but I guess that is OK. I miss BUSY. I miss having something to do. >>I searched my three kids again in Coppernic and Google to make try and >>keep tabs on them. Looks like they are being good or at least they >>have learned to cover their tracks pretty well. >>Anyway, just a thought. Seems like if you reply to the message board >>it ends up in junk mail and I find it by luck. I have another email >>address too which is IMSUM1NOW2 (AT) netscape.com…. So if you wanna >>talk…. Let’s. Please note this is not a search for anything like >>sexual companionship…. I have that. AND I am not unhappy there. I >>just wanna know some people. That’s all. >>I usually like to insert humor in to my posts somewhere, but I am >>avoiding the urge. Besides I cannot think of anything funny. >>But listen, remember strawberries, watermelons and lollipops…. >>I hope everyone is well. I swear… >>Regards. >>Eric > Where are you that its past 2:00 already? Its only 11:30 here. (Oregon) I > too am an insomniac and I hate it. But I have it whether or not Im on a > med. Im a born night owl I guess. > Rob
I have to add that many MSr’s, like me here in ohio are early to bed types..oh hell I’ve been that way since my 20’s when the neighbors used to joke that they knew mom and dad were gone cause i went to bed at 9, ‘rents were/are night owls!! <grin>. I was Born a 90 year old woman.. Laura (age 43)
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Don’t mean to disappoint, but I think if a label were attached here it would read liberal. (As well as other less flattering adjectives.) Not that I dislike conservatives. In fact, while I began the whole Iraq debacle with an undeniable angst directed at those who are now known as "neo-cons." I am well passed it and believe we must come together. I have a picture of my brother at the 1972 Democratic Convention with a shirt reading, "Eat the Rich." Now he is a lawyer and says, he "is done digesting the rich and is now consuming the poor." I don’t even want to go there. Thanks. Awhile into it all ,I decided that whatever the reasons, we were all Americans, members of humanity and Patriots and I did watch those freaking towers going up. I think our hearts were ALL well placed. We had different opinions. But we are Americans. Or Canadians. Or for that matter Iraqi’s. In fact, I tried like hell to get through to the only "liberal media" in my years and express that. It was time to let the Conservatives out of the box. My feeling was that on 9/12 the world was more united than it had ever been in my lifetime. Since then it has become far less stable and safe and I fear for my children. And their children and so forth. I think that the entire matter was handled so incorrectly as to have a criminally negligent aspect to it. But hey, I know where the greatest country in the world is. I know where the largest and most humane hearts lie. And I thank whatever deity there is that the men and women who stood up and rose to the challenges before us did so. Their bravery and honor sincerely brings tears to my eyes. That, my friend, is all separate. What I was doing while my brother was in law school was wandering the country selling T-Shirts. We would finish a show in Miami, and then do a show in Detroit the next night. But inevitably before we were on the road, there were those in our group who would take refreshments and I was just NOT going there. Though now I suffer with this crap, I am grateful for the scruples as I think they probably saved my life on more than one occasion and in more than one regard. (We would pull into towns and twenty-five guys would head for the locked van. And we had a saying, "when the van is rocking, don’t come knocking." I did not go THERE either. Not that I was not tempted mind you. Just as I said… Scruples. But I did travel a great deal. In addition to all of my road rambling, my father worked airline and I flew free until I was 21 or 25 if in school. SO I kept registering at different schools. I think I may hold a record. NYCTC, SUNYAB, ASU, Phoenix College….I lost count. But I could then get a job for a little while and spend a few months in Colorado, or Europe, or Australia or some other funky destination. I remember my Grandfather arguing with a man on the ‘D’ Train… His point was that old men were disgruntled because they had neglected to do the things they had intended to. His point was that it was not the fact that they had not "worked" hard enough, it was that they had placed their priorities as society had intended and then by the time they got the corner office it was too late to go camping for three months in Colorado. My first wife was disgruntled that our financial position would have been far better if I had become something else. My wife now understands that I have a wealth that you cannot buy. And WE are richer for it than if we had all of the money in the world. Well, I see I am at the point of ONE of my least favorite aspects of this blasted disease. I am rambling. Do you know that I once hired and fired, with great tact mind you, over seventy people. I managed offices and dealt professionally with Doctors, Lawyers and others coherently. Now I babble. Not that I don’t have fun with it sometimes. As for Oregon… I bet it is beautiful. I miss green so much. And mountains. And the rain IS what makes the green so enjoy it. And get a raincoat. :) It has been fun chatting with you. Thanks for the company. Looks to me like the sun is about up and the day is about to start. At any rate my wife is up, so I KNOW the day is about to start and in the unforgettable words of the guy in the Dunkin Donut Commercial….. "GOTTA MAKE THE COFFEE." Talk to you later…. I would be hip like my soon to be eighteen year old and say TTYL, but my soul mate Bill Shakespeare would roll too much. Regards, Eric
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"Cropsey" <cropsey2…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111137137.333744.314740@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com… > Florida. And I have been a night person since teendom. I used to > think it was a blessing. I figured if I stayed up one night per week, > then I would get to live ‘x’ amount of years longer than everyone. > Then came kids. :-) Not to mention work and other responsabilities. > I still find the best T.V. at night, but I somwtimes wish to just shut > down. I hardly drink coffee anymore and sleeping pills are useless so > I just try and enjoy the moment. > In my late teens and early twenties I traveled with a lot of people. > I did not want to go to sleep and entrust the driving to an unknown.
Yes, I know that feeling well. > Oregon is one of like four states I have not been to. I used to love > camping and shit and I always thought it was a beautiful destination, > but never made it. I did do a lot of time in Colorado and California > and I have always tried to convince people not to leave this planet > without seeing the Grand Canyon.
Stef and I went there on our honnymoon. Incredible, simply incredible. > I kind of dislike Florida, but Broward County I think is one of the > most handicap friendly locales in the country.
Lots of lawyers. ;^) > Every Bus has ramps, etc…. I still drive, but when we go to large > malls, it reqally makes a difference. > Is Oregon beautiful as I have imagined. I would still like to get > there someday. I still have lots of family in various parts of > California and miss the Redwoods, so I guess you never know. > It does not seem to be a priiority right now. But it is certainly on > the list. I was in Washington, but have no real desire to go back > there. Have you travelled a lot? > Eric
Yes, Oregon has many great attributes. The ones I like the best are our mountains. I love mountains, snow, and ski’s. But hey, weve got the desert, the mountains, the beaches, what more is there? Some cities are green year round, such as Portland. Very stunning. Very beautifull all year long. I love it. Theres lush green growth everywhere. I hate the rain, but thats how ya get the greeen. Ive travelled all over the states, europe, mexica, into Canada a time or two while hunting. Oregon has the Columbia running down it, the Willamete river runs straight through a bunch of really nice cities. Oregons good. Dont know if your a liberal, but Portland, unfortunately if you ask me, is incredibly liberal. But it goes with the territory. Rob Rob
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Well, here I sit once again at 2:00 or so in the morning and I have gone through my usual haunts looking for something interesting to keep my mind occupied. Seems there are hardly any topics here. :-( Not that this place is usually full of them, but I was just wondering if there was anyone like me who just wants to chat. Besides, I am a little sad thar tyabri is off the table and I am back to injections every day. I am just kind of bored. I took a painkiller and that will inevitably keep me awake for at least most of the night and tomorrow will be busy, but I guess that is OK. I miss BUSY. I miss having something to do. I searched my three kids again in Coppernic and Google to make try and keep tabs on them. Looks like they are being good or at least they have learned to cover their tracks pretty well. Anyway, just a thought. Seems like if you reply to the message board it ends up in junk mail and I find it by luck. I have another email address too which is IMSUM1NOW2 (AT) netscape.com…. So if you wanna talk…. Let’s. Please note this is not a search for anything like sexual companionship…. I have that. AND I am not unhappy there. I just wanna know some people. That’s all. I usually like to insert humor in to my posts somewhere, but I am avoiding the urge. Besides I cannot think of anything funny. But listen, remember strawberries, watermelons and lollipops…. I hope everyone is well. I swear… Regards. Eric
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Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
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Hi, (I didn’t get your name) Finishing school or leaving is a tough decision to make. I know for myself that I could not finish but I left that door open in case one day I would be able to return. Unfortunately, that day never came back. I withdrew officially with a doctor’s letter. I miss it immensely. I was 3 credits shy of getting my BComm. I was majoring in accounting. For me it would not have mattered whether I could do anything with the degree after or not. For me, it would have been self-fulfilling just to be able to finish. No one can make that decision for you. Only you know what you’re capable of doing, without pushing yourself to the maximum. Whatever choice you make, I wish you all the best. Welcome to the group and feel free to participate any time you desire. Take care, Dawn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
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Hi Dawn, I appreciate your words of encouragement. I hope that I am not to late in registering for class. Take care, Rosanne>e – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: Dawn Jenkins <d…@JOHNABBOTT.QC.CA> >Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 04:58:42 -0400 >Message-ID: <199708170858.EAA14…@jacinet.johnabbott.qc.ca> >Hi, (I didn’t get your name) >Finishing school or leaving is a tough decision to make. >I know for myself that I could not finish but I left that >door open in case one day I would be able to return. >Unfortunately, that day never came back. I withdrew >officially with a doctor’s letter. >I miss it immensely. I was 3 credits shy of getting my BComm. >I was majoring in accounting. For me it would not have mattered >whether I could do anything with the degree after or not. For >me, it would have been self-fulfilling just to be able to finish. >No one can make that decision for you. Only you know what >you’re capable of doing, without pushing yourself to the >maximum. Whatever choice you make, I wish you all the best. >Welcome to the group and feel free to participate any time >you desire. >Take care, >Dawn >>Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >>have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >>trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >>doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >>to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >>I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >>I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >>with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >>anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make? >e >From: Dawn Jenkins <d…@JOHNABBOTT.QC.CA> >Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 04:58:42 -0400 >Message-ID: <199708170858.EAA14…@jacinet.johnabbott.qc.ca> >Hi, (I didn’t get your name) >Finishing school or leaving is a tough decision to make. >I know for myself that I could not finish but I left that >door open in case one day I would be able to return. >Unfortunately, that day never came back. I withdrew >officially with a doctor’s letter. >I miss it immensely. I was 3 credits shy of getting my BComm. >I was majoring in accounting. For me it would not have mattered >whether I could do anything with the degree after or not. For >me, it would have been self-fulfilling just to be able to finish. >No one can make that decision for you. Only you know what >you’re capable of doing, without pushing yourself to the >maximum. Whatever choice you make, I wish you all the best. >Welcome to the group and feel free to participate any time >you desire. >Take care, >Dawn >>Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >>have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >>trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >>doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >>to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >>I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >>I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >>with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >>anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
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Sharon, you give great advice. When I was dx’ed I had a 3 mont old baby and had just moved to a new city! I now have a beautifil well adjusted (Ihope) 21 year old and I went back to school got my Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling. Like you said it was hard but, well worth every bit of it! Lisa in Florida ———- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> From: Sharon Thompson <sha…@WEBXS.COM> > To: MSLIS…@techunix.technion.ac.il > Subject: Re: Hello everyone > Date: Sunday, August 17, 1997 11:55 AM > At 03:55 PM 8/14/97 GMT, you wrote: > >Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I > >have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am > >trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my > >doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going > >to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much > >I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that > >I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything > >with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does > >anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make? > Hello New Person and welcome, > In the l970’s I was faced with a delima such as you are faced with right > now. What to do. It took me six years to finish my studies but it was > worth it. Yes, it is a struggle. I can’t know how hard your struggle > is as each of us are so different and situations vary. I did use my > advanced degree and was able to switch careers from R.N. to Research > Chemist. Now, I am medically retired. You must have desired to get > your Doctorate or you wouldn’t be at Rutgers. Sometimes we have to > struggle to make dreams come true. If you don’t finish now you may > regret it later even if you don’t do anything with it. If at all > possible "go for it". > Best of luck, > Sharon in Guadalupe > ****************************** > Amazing, isn’t it, how some > see the basket half empty and > others see it half full. Some > see life hopeless; others hope- > full. Even when things are less > than perfect, if you can think > of the good, the beautiful, > the hopeful, you’ll be more > sustained—you’ll conquer. > *****************************
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Rutgers and Mary, Outstanding We all can do more than we think. We are like the LITTLE TRAIN THAT COULD. Way to go Mary. My balding head shines in admiration.
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Hi Sarah, I have another 7 courses to complete to earn my ABD (all but dissertation) which will take me another 3 1/2 years at this rate. Then I will have another 2 years to do my dissertation. I left my teaching position before I had children and started working on my degree 13 years later (1995). Not eligible for disability ins. I had always wanted this degree after I earned my "MS" degree. Took years before I felt that I could devote the time to the work and by then, I was dx’d. If I was well, I would like to teach future teachers. Today there is no true cure for MS, but who knows what tomorrow will bring? I would like to work and study, but…you know the story. Take care, Rosanne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Subject: Re: Hello everyone >From: Sarah J Moran <sah…@ICI.NET> >Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:49:00 +0000 >Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970817114900.006ad52c@mail> >hi RI- >1) How much is involved in finishing? >2) Was your teaching situation one that had a disability insurance? >3) What do you want to do with the doctorate? > best, sahree >At 03:55 PM 8/14/97 GMT, you wrote: >>Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >>have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >>trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >>doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >>to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >>I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >>I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >>with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >>anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
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I hadn’t meant to send this response to everyone, but hit reply, and now no longer have "Rutgers" direct address. Hello "Rutgers" I’m a graduate student at Northwestern. This is MY experience. I only stress my, because we’re all different, and your decisions obviously have to be your own. I was diagnosed with MS 7 months before arriving at NU (at 33y.o.). I was on Christmas break my senior year of my undergraduate work. My family thought I should forget about graduate school and move back to Albuquerque to let my mom take care of me. I knew there was no reason why I should give up on my own independent lifestyle nor my dreams because of MS. So, here I am starting my 6th year of graduate school. My first year was the worst, but mostly because of how MS affected me and because of my fears. I have to deal with a lot of cognition problems. My strength comes from the fact that I had always been a good student, always loved school, couldn’t have made it to NU if I hadn’t have been smart enough in the first place–all of that while feeling overwhelmed and, dare I say, kind of stupid (with the short term memory problems, lack of concentration and difficulty with abstractions). The three years of course work was tough for me, but this is how I handled it. First of all, I let people in my department know what was going on with me. Fatigue was a problem for me also, so a lot of times I would just sit in class like a zombie, but I always made it to class. I used a tape recorder as often as possible. I would usually take about one incomplete per quarter, and would finish up the work for all of the incompletes over the summer. I have had tremendous support here from peers, faculty and staff. Speaking of staff, the department assistant did a lot to make things easier for me. I now use a scooter, on occasion, but even before that, she had my office moved to the first floor because doing the stairs one too many times would exhaust me. She had the university put in a lift–and that was before I knew I would get a scooter. The scooter, by the way, was a donation from a board member of the MS Society. Friends used to walk me to classes and I knew that wasn’t the best of situations (lacked independence, couldn’t think that someone would always be there to help), so turned to our chapter for help getting a scooter. Anyhow, as far as the scooter is concerned, I only use it for distances. After two or three blocks my left leg starts to drag and exhaustion soon follows–and then after doing whatever it is I’m off to do, I still have to get back to where I started from. Nevertheless, while in the department, I usually get around without even using my cane (wall-walking when necessary). I put up notes in the department about my use of the scooter then to explain why one minute I could be walking freely and the next riding off into the sunset on my scooter–I did not want to appear to be either lazy or faking it. Now I’m in the dissertation phase of my work. I have a very nice home office. I have a one bedroom apartment and the bedroom is my office. I come in here and put in as many hours at a stretch that I can and then I go lie down, and then I get back up and do it all over again. What about after I get my degree? Honestly? I don’t know. But the same kind of question was inevitable when I went to finish off my undergraduate at 31 years old. What was I going to do with a degree at 40? I’ll get to be 40 with or without a degree and I’d rather have the degree. I’ll still have MS when I finish my Ph.D., but I’ll be a person with MS with a Ph.D. I figure, if I’m doing what I want to do in the here and now, why worry what it will all mean later–with or without an able body? So, I’ve rattled on a bit here and don’t know if any of this will help. I just know I’m doing what I want and that it’s a pretty tough life to live if you’re living under the umbrella of "shoulds" and "what ifs". "Rutgers" please write back to me and let me know if I can answer any specific questions you may have. I’m genuinely interested. Mary D. At 03:55 PM 8/14/97 GMT, you wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
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hi RI- 1) How much is involved in finishing? 2) Was your teaching situation one that had a disability insurance? 3) What do you want to do with the doctorate? best, sahree At 03:55 PM 8/14/97 GMT, you wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
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Dawn, Have you checked into finishing your degree on the internet? There are several schools on the internet that offer degrees. Kathy G.
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At 03:55 PM 8/14/97 GMT, you wrote: >Hi, I am new to this page and have benefitted reading the messages. I >have spms, with my right leg being most affected. I used to teach and am >trying to decide whether or not to continue my studies to earn my >doctorate. I am enrolled at Rutgers, but as each semester passes, going >to classes and participating becomes more difficult. I question how much >I am getting out of the coursework. The worse part of my studies is that >I don’t feel that after earning my degree I will be able to do anything >with it. I haven’t registered for the upcoming semester, yet. Does >anyone have any comments to help clarify my decision that I have to make?
Hello New Person and welcome, In the l970’s I was faced with a delima such as you are faced with right now. What to do. It took me six years to finish my studies but it was worth it. Yes, it is a struggle. I can’t know how hard your struggle is as each of us are so different and situations vary. I did use my advanced degree and was able to switch careers from R.N. to Research Chemist. Now, I am medically retired. You must have desired to get your Doctorate or you wouldn’t be at Rutgers. Sometimes we have to struggle to make dreams come true. If you don’t finish now you may regret it later even if you don’t do anything with it. If at all possible "go for it". Best of luck, Sharon in Guadalupe ****************************** Amazing, isn’t it, how some see the basket half empty and others see it half full. Some see life hopeless; others hope- full. Even when things are less than perfect, if you can think of the good, the beautiful, the hopeful, you’ll be more sustained—you’ll conquer. *****************************
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Hello everyone, Can I join the group too? My name is Suzan, 26 and I was diagnosed with MS in December 1995 and I=B4ve had seven relapses since that time. After four cures with Prednisolon my neuro suggested I would start using Interferon Beta. I tried it but I fell into a very deep depression so I quit using it. Has anyone had the same experience with Interferon Beta? Or is it just me imagining things. Suzan
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hi Suzan, Of course you can join!! The steroid treatments didn’t really "cure" you, they put you into temporary remission. Instead of just quitting the Beta, how about talking to your doctor about the depression side effect? There’s a very good chance it can be treated. Seven exacerbations– that’s alot, and I think that I’d give the Betaseron another try. Just having MS can be depressing, too. If medication makes it worse…well, I can understand how you’d get discouraged. Jan G S.M. Jager <S.M.Ja…@STUD.LET.RUU.NL> wrote in article <1.5.4.16.19970416125023.1207d…@pop.cc.ruu.nl>… Hello everyone, Can I join the group too? My name is Suzan, 26 and I was diagnosed with MS in December 1995 and I
