Hi Guys need some help…G

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well last nite is over thank god, i did get about 3 hours sleep and i thank god for that. I am scared about what i have attached to my sleep. I have attached fear to it. I mean some crazy reasoning made me think that teh more sleep i got i the more i would think. I know as i write this it sounds nuts and foolish becasue of course u will becasue you got more sleep. But some where in me i did this and now i am aprehensive to fall asleep. I know no one else has ever done this , this is a new one  on you guys but i have done it. Now i am scared that this is the final straw before i really end up nuts from never sleeping and fear. Why have i done this?

I dont understand the question G. Do you think you did it diliberately? It seems like you have some obsessive thoughts. Its no big deal really and is normal with anxiety disorders. Its easy to get stuck with a fearful thought. The Zoloft helped me with it. The other night I had a thought about the general anastesia I was given during surgery. It scared me enough I had panic symptoms. From my past hystory I knew it would be easy to obsess about this thought and all that it meant if it was true. So I bombarded the thought with other thoughts like give it time its probably stress and not a result from the general. My insomnia isnt going to last for ever and yours wont either. Your body will soon right it self and you wil sleep. Hope Ive helped and not made things worse. Charla Before you buy.

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Well last nite is over thank god, i did get about 3 hours sleep and i thank god for that. I am scared about what i have attached to my sleep. I have attached fear to it. I mean some crazy reasoning made me think that teh more sleep i got i the more i would think. I know as i write this it sounds nuts and foolish becasue of course u will becasue you got more sleep. But some where in me i did this and now i am aprehensive to fall asleep. I know no one else has ever done this , this is a new one  on you guys but i have done it. Now i am scared that this is the final straw before i really end up nuts from never sleeping and fear. Why have i done this?

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GSimmo: You will be okay.  I’ve had sleeping problems like you have mentioned over the last 10 years. At one point I thought I would go crazy, but then took the attitude that I will over come this problem (easier said then done…I know). Keep in mind you won’t die from this.  The human body is actually very strong and durable. If you have not talked to your Doc, I strongly suggest you do.  Are you taking any med’s right now?  If not, you may be in a vicious circle where your anxiety of not getting enough sleep is perpetuating the problem.  Been there, done that! (old fashion I know) will make your drowsy and may help your problem. There’s also remerom, ect.   Also melatonin does wonders for some people. Never take for than 3mg per night. Sleep hygiene I suppose is probably a good thing for you to investigate. I’m doing that now. There are sites like, http://www.iris-publishing.com/sleep/index.html that go into details on good sleep hygiene habits.  The one I find most compelling is to only use your bed for sleep and sex. Don’t watch TV or read a book while in bed.  If you can’t sleep get out of your bed and go read or watch TV in another room. Personally this is the one I’m working on right now.  The meaning behind this is that you begin to associate your sleeping problem with your bedroom, thus perpetuating the problem. email me if you want to talk more about this in detail.  I’m more than happy to share my experiences and advice.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well last nite is over thank god, i did get about 3 hours sleep and i thank god for that. I am scared about what i have attached to my sleep. I have attached fear to it. I mean some crazy reasoning made me think that teh more sleep i got i the more i would think. I know as i write this it sounds nuts and foolish becasue of course u will becasue you got more sleep. But some where in me i did this and now i am aprehensive to fall asleep. I know no one else has ever done this , this is a new one  on you guys but i have done it. Now i am scared that this is the final straw before i really end up nuts from never sleeping and fear. Why have i done this?

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Thanx Charla, U have helped u really did. It is just that i get so scared when this happens u know especially when it attacks my sleep. I am not sure but it feels like i do this on purpose u know. I say to myself just think of something else why must u think of these things. I get really down on myself . G

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well last nite is over thank god, i did get about 3 hours sleep and i thank god for that. I am scared about what i have attached to my sleep. I have attached fear to it. I mean some crazy reasoning made me think that teh more sleep i got i the more i would think. I know as i write this it sounds nuts and foolish becasue of course u will becasue you got more sleep. But some where in me i did this and now i am aprehensive to fall asleep. I know no one else has ever done this , this is a new one  on you guys but i have done it. Now i am scared that this is the final straw before i really end up nuts from never sleeping and fear. Why have i done this?

Hi, G….. Just MHO, of course, but I wonder if you may not have just created a cycle….. you fear that you won’t sleep….. this makes you anxious and it’s hard for you to fall asleep….. you don’t sleep much….. afterwards you fear that it will never stop and you won’t ever be able to sleep again. Sounds like a very possible scenario for a PD’er…. Is there any reason that you *fear* sleep?  I mean….. do you fear something happening *while* you sleep?  If so, that could be part of this. I have a problem falling asleep sometimes because of meds.  When I was on Prozac, I would have trouble falling asleep….. then, I would always wake up around 4 or 5….. and not be able to go back to sleep.  My pdoc finally gave me some Trazodone to help me sleep….. and it has been great. Ask your doc about something like this when you see him/her next.  In the meantime, how about trying something natural….. like Camomile tea….. or warm milk…… before bedtime….. to see if it helps…… Turkey meat is high in tryptophan, an amino acid that makes one sleepy…… so perhaps Sometimes, we only need to use a sleep aid for a short while….. say, a few weeks, to get our bodies back into the sleep cycle….. then we can do without the meds.  Luvox, like Prozac, is an SSRI…… and though we are all different in the way we react to meds…… I’m just wondering if the Luvox may be contributing to your sleep problems. In any case, the body has to have sleep in order to function.  When your body reaches a point where it is exhausted, you *will* fall asleep…… I wish you well….. MikeH :)

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