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Well Ms. RN aren’t you just the nicest person that has come onto this ng in a long time… 
Hugs on this ng go a long way and even in real life. I usually dont respond to comments like this but I take offense!! Oh and yes I guess SMACKING would really make a person feel good. Ronnie Okay, gimme your chocolate and nobody else gets hurt……
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I got to say when I am feeling really bad, like I was all this week, a hug is exactly what I need and want. And Ronnie does give some nice hugs in real time and cyber space. Better real time though! A hug is -one- of the best feelings I can feel at anytime, sick, depressed, happy or scared. Yes, a hug is just what I need. It is sad for you, "Barbara RN" that you do not share in the joy of hugs. And just for the fun of it, here is a big hug for you anyway. ~Lisa~
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Oh well, Barbara, I don’t much like hugs when I’m in pain either…or cyberhugs…or hugs in place of drugs, if I need them…. I am a kisser & hugger, but really only in person. There are three or four "streams" in the newsgroup – a warm fuzzy one, a factual one, a venting one, a weird one. Might try dipping into another one…. Welcome, anyway –Julianne
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Marianne TX Complex Migraineur Hugs can be the best for someone in pain.They don’t draw blood, hurt or give bruises like needles. They do start the release of those endorphines we all need. Especially The Drug Challenged. I would like to SMACK the person that wrote the quip about "hugs." Obviously they have never suffered from pain that is severe, chronic, and/or debilitating. When I’m in pain, I don’t want ANYONE to touch me. Especially someone ignorant about issues relating to being "drug challenged." It’s called tolerance, dear; not dependent, addicted or challenged. And it’s a lack of education and adequate research that leads to statements like the one "hugs" made. UGH! Barbara, RN, BSN
Forgive us, Barbara RN BSN…. perhaps you misread the name of this group. alt.SUPPORT.headaches.migraine. If you would spend some time reading this group, instead of jumping in and immediately putting it down, you would see that "hugs" are extremely important to us here. You see, we can’t reach across the room and offer physical support, so cyberhugs are the next best thing to us here. And "drug challenged" does not necessarily mean dependent, addicted or challenged. For most of us, it means that we’ve been through so many different drugs to treat this monster we call migraine, that some days nothing will take the pain away. It’s not a lack of education that makes that statement applicable to us at ASHM, but instead it’s a keen, personal insight into chronic pain. Trust me, Marianne has suffered plenty of "severe, chronic, and/or debilitating pain". She , as the rest of us, is not here to be judged by uncaring, unfeeling people such as yourself. Maybe you need to look in the mirror and SMACK yourself back into reality. I hope that you treat your patients with more respect and empathy than you’ve afforded us here. Dawn RN,C
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Clare- I’m having much better luck with my mineral supplements than I ever got with imitrex. Haven’t had a migraine in three months. This last period was extreme too. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I went for a routine stress test the other day and found out that I have heart dammage….got to go for a list of tests. I can no longer take imitrex….the only drug that has taken away my migraines. Is there anyone else here that can’t take imitrex because of heart problems? If so…what do you use? Scared, Clare
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I can’t take imitrix since I had a heart attack/coronary artery spasm. I take phrennilin which is not the greatest thing for migraines. I am not spposed to have caffeine either which is why I don’t take fiorinal. Since I drastically cut back on my caffeine consmption my migraines have not been as bad. I get about one a month, last time it was 2 months and now instead of a 7 to a 1o, they range from a 3 to a 5. Good luck to you. What kind of damage and what casued it, if you don’t mind me asking? diane (remove the xyz to send email) I went for a routine stress test the other day and found out that I have heart dammage….got to go for a list of tests. I can no longer take imitrex….the only drug that has taken away my migraines. Is there anyone else here that can’t take imitrex because of heart problems? If so…what do you use? Scared, Clare
– "She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."….. -Mark Twain
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I cannot take any vasoconstrictors because of risk of stroke but I have luck with my severe Basilar Artery Migraines using 1oomg demerol tablets or Stadol NS full strength. I have not found an abortive that works yet. Marianne TX Complex Migraineur Hugs can be the best for someone in pain.They don’t draw blood, hurt or give bruises like needles. They do start the release of those endorphines we all need. Especially The Drug Challenged.
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I cannot take any vasoconstrictors because of risk of stroke but I have luck with my severe Basilar Artery Migraines using 1oomg demerol tablets or Stadol NS full strength. I have not found an abortive that works yet. Marianne TX Complex Migraineur Hugs can be the best for someone in pain.They don’t draw blood, hurt or give bruises like needles. They do start the release of those endorphines we all need. Especially The Drug Challenged.
I would like to SMACK the person that wrote the quip about "hugs." Obviously they have never suffered from pain that is severe, chronic, and/or debilitating. When I’m in pain, I don’t want ANYONE to touch me. Especially someone ignorant about issues relating to being "drug challenged." It’s called tolerance, dear; not dependent, addicted or challenged. And it’s a lack of education and adequate research that leads to statements like the one "hugs" made. UGH! Barbara, RN, BSN
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Clare, I had to stop using imitrex when I had a mini-stroke (not exactly heart problems, I know). I now use migranal (DHE-45 nasal spray) and it actually works better, for me anyway. God Bless! — Jane in AZ *I hope to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am* – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I went for a routine stress test the other day and found out that I have heart dammage….got to go for a list of tests. I can no longer take imitrex….the only drug that has taken away my migraines. Is there anyone else here that can’t take imitrex because of heart problems? If so…what do you use? Scared, Clare
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I went for a routine stress test the other day and found out that I have heart dammage….got to go for a list of tests. I can no longer take imitrex….the only drug that has taken away my migraines. Is there anyone else here that can’t take imitrex because of heart problems? If so…what do you use? Scared, Clare
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Katherine, Sorry to hear about the bad one, but glad it is slowly, but surely subsiding. Hope it keeps getting better. Take care! Wabbit
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Sorry to hear it Wendy — Hope this doesn’t last long and you are pain-free soon! Take care, Wabbit
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Hey Waaaaabit…. : ) lots right back RonMum Okay, gimme your chocolate and nobody else gets hurt……
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You are right about the hugs not working (for you maybe) for me either, but to discount that they don’t work for someone else or that her pain isn’t as huge as your own is down right rude and you should feel lucky that she can’t smack you back.
Boy, I must have missed something! I agree, not everything works for everyone. I happen to be one of those that really needs hugs! It does my heart good to know that others care. It may not actually get rid of the pain, but it sure makes it easier to deal with! So, feel free to send me hugs anytime!!! :) Hugs, ( or not ) Jackie AKA Poop A Doodle or Poopie
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You are right about the hugs not working (for you maybe) for me either, but to discount that they don’t work for someone else or that her pain isn’t as huge as your own is down right rude and you should feel lucky that she can’t smack you back.
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:Big hugs to those in pain, those who have :been in pain, and those who live with :constant pain. . . . : :Wabbit Thanx SO much, Wabbit, & consider yourself hugged!!! I always run short in the middle of the night as my husband does not share in my insomnia… (/) -/– "I am part and parcel of God." -Ralph Waldo Emerson- A haven of honesty & grace awaits YOUR input at http://www.GeoCities.com/Paris/3368 !!!
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Big hugs to those in pain, those who have been in pain, and those who live with constant pain. . . . Wabbit Thanks Wabbit. . I’m getting a doozy of one right now (6 or 7 on the M scale) and will take any cozys I can get!!
thanks form me too. just recovering from a doozy that went up to a 9, but has now receded to a 5/6 (tolerable enough to be up but not yet quite about).
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Thanks Wabbit! I needed that. How did you know? Poopie
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I feel the need – - – The need for a big group hug! Big hugs to those in pain, those who have been in pain, and those who live with constant pain. . . . Wabbit
Great idea, Wabbit! Thanks, I’m feeling warm and cozy all over now. Starbug
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I feel the need – - – The need for a big group hug! Big hugs to those in pain, those who have been in pain, and those who live with constant pain. . . . Wabbit
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Big hugs to those in pain, those who have been in pain, and those who live with constant pain. . . . Wabbit
Thanks Wabbit. . I’m getting a doozy of one right now (6 or 7 on the M scale) and will take any cozys I can get!! Wendy
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And it’s a lack of education and adequate research that leads to statements like the one "hugs" made. UGH! Barbara, RN, BSN
It sounds like you were having a bad day Barbara. At least I hope it’s from a bad day and not a "permanent" affliction. Please don’t be chased away because of the responses to your post. We re known for our forgiveness, mostly due to the fact that we too, have bad days! I imagine that "hugs" in many forms, have saved many lives. I wonder how many people have committed suicide because they had no one that would offer the slightest bit of compassion, and therefore didn’t have anyone willing to give them a hug. Research on this would be difficult because those that didn’t have the hugs available, may only be able to take heavenly surveys. When we are "in" the pain, many of us are in no mood for touching. But it’s especially helpful "after" the pain. That time when we all feel lonely and as if we’re fighting a losing battle. It helps to know that we aren’t alone in our battle. Sort of like being in a gun battle and calling for backup, and nobody answers. Bob The day no one answers my silent "call for backup" will be my last day as a physical being. Bob
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I would like to SMACK the person that wrote the quip about "hugs." Obviously they have never suffered from pain that is severe, chronic, and/or debilitating. When I’m in pain, I don’t want ANYONE to touch me. Especially someone ignorant about issues relating to being "drug challenged." It’s called tolerance, dear; not dependent, addicted or challenged. And it’s a lack of education and adequate research that leads to statements like the one "hugs" made. UGH! Barbara, RN, BSN
This just depends on the person. My eldest NEEDS cuddles when she is sick or in pain, but my eldest just runs or hits us and yells at us to ‘go away’. Some people need them and some people don’t. This ng used to give a lot of e-hugs which I found fulfilled the need. I don’t like people other than my close family to touch me, but the e-hugs were wonderful. Suzie Melbourne, Australia There are three crowns: the crown of Torah, the crown of priesthood and the crown of royalty; but the crown of a good name exceeds them all. Pirke Avot 4:19.
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Marianne TX Complex Migraineur Hugs can be the best for someone in pain.They don’t draw blood, hurt or give bruises like needles. They do start the release of those endorphines we all need. Especially The Drug Challenged. I
A hug a day keeps the guys with big butterfly nets away (I’ve always said). I’m sending you a big one right now, Marianne. Try not to let this person upset you. All your friends here at ASHM appreciate your words, and we would rather this bitter Barbara person go elsewhere. Have a great, hug-filled weekend, Starbug
