New to constant pain
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About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer.
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SJ = San Jose? I don’t know of any doctors, but if I were in your situation I’d probably call all listed (in your HMO book, phone book or otherwise) and ask a lot of questions of the person who answers the phone. Do you have a primary physician who can help you with this? Others will speak more about your condition and actual treatments, sounds like there should be some, and I hope for you that treatment coincides with pain management. Like, who will be the doctor to treat you, as well as just give you prescriptions for pain meds? Is that not where you want to start looking for help? Best, Jen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer.
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You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer.
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It sure doesn’t.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer.
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You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test…
I’ve went to doctors 5 times, tried aspirin, tylenol, advil, Aleve, bufferin, flexeril, Vicodin, Naproxen, Soma, Darvon, getting drunk – all I find find legally or get a doc to perscibe so far. ONLY Vicodin works, and it works only for 2 hours, meaning the longest I’ve slept in the last weeks has been 2 hours. Its’ hell. I have another doctor’s appt tomorow, I need something stonger that lasts longer, without ODing me on tylenol – and I need the stupid HMO to use x-rays or MRI to figure out why I have severe leg pain and a sore back – that keeps me from normal sleep. I can live with pain during the day, but I need to sleep.
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Hello, Tom. I don’t have any answers to you, but I wanted to give you my support and empathy, as I also suffer low back degeneration and have had full fusion 2 years ago. I do hope and pray you find help outside your HMO, as they seem to be worthless to you. Why pay for that kind of rotten care? I just don’t get this system at all. I have pretty good insurance, but my problem is in finding a doc to treat my pain, along with my other regular medical issues. I would love to find a family doc to take my pain case as well, but I still am looking, since my last 2 family docs have left family practice for other specialties. Since you have obvious nerve involvement, look into seeing a neurosurgeon if surgery is advised, instead of an orthopedic surgeon…I made that mistake, and am paying for it for the rest of my life. Not all orthos are bad, but you should check them out carefully, nonetheless. Also, if you begin to have problems voiding or with BM’s, get into a specialist immediately! Anyway, welcome, though I am sorry you need to be here. I hope you find answers and support here. Trailingvine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer.
"To live happily is an inward power of the soul." Marcus Aurelius
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I don’t have any answers to you, but I wanted to give you my support and empathy, as I also suffer low back degeneration and have had full fusion 2 years ago. I do hope and pray you find help outside your HMO, as they seem to be worthless to you. Why pay for that kind of rotten care? I just don’t get this system at all. I have pretty good insurance, but my problem is in finding a doc to treat my pain, along
Well, my HMO finally came through, I finally got to talk with a "real" doctor – who gave me a small perscription for time-release morphine pills. Yahoo! No more waking up every half-an-hour to take 3 Vicodins, wait 45 minutes – repeat, all night. Maybe this drug will let me sleep all night pain free. With some steroids to perhaps convince the nerves in my leg and hip to mellow out. Amazing I had to go to the HMO for 5 visits, but finally tonight, I will take a real pain killer and perhaps sleep well. So, keep going back to your HMO till you find a doc who will care about your pain, is the best advice, I guess!
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You know, Ziggy, all this playing at being the moral conscience of the group is getting old. I don’t answer to you. Never have. Never will. If you dont’ like my posts, don’t read them, but it’s getting old having you decide whether or not *you* find them appropriate. — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stink test… interesting title for deciding whether we choose to believe a fellow pain sufferer. You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer. — Ziggy
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Stink test… interesting title for deciding whether we choose to believe a fellow pain sufferer.
No, Ziggy, it was a phrase used for deciding whether *I* choose to believe someone. I don’t speak for anyone else. — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer. — Ziggy
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Isn’t it though Ziggy? First of all, it’s absurd that anyone should *have* to explain this in a "support group"..but here goes…. I believe Tom *did* go and get medication immediately..that’s how I read his post. I don’t see how you can say that he’s tried "nothing" else..he’s stuck in HMO hell. Sometimes people say things for emphasis…to let you know how extreme their situation is. Desperation and irony..I highly doubt armed robbery is in his future.We, of all people, should be careful about accusing others of the lengths one might go to in able to obtain relief, and understand a lot of what’s said is blowing off steam. If you’ll re-read his post, you’ll see that he has indeed been very busy, doing as he’s been told by his doctor, but remains very very under-medicated. Perhaps a referral to someone in his area, who can treat pain might do him more good. If we can’t do that much, the least a support group could be expected to do is hear one another out….I don’t think any of us would want our posts taken apart sentence by sentence and taken literally – especially when we’re in pain. Welcome to the group Tom…I hope you’re able to find some help soon, codeee – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Stink test… interesting title for deciding whether we choose to believe a fellow pain sufferer. You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato About 10 days ago, I felt a sharp pain in my very lower back, the next day that sharp pain went to my hip and down my legs, making my skin feel like it is burned and the bones feel like they are broken. I went to my HMO and they prescribed Soma, Vidodin (5 mg with 500 mg Tylenol) and Naproxen. This medication did help, but not enough to let me sleep. I had to take 3 Vicodins to be able to sleep for 2 hours, then take 3 more to sleep 2 more hours, etc. I went back to the HMO the next day, they gave me 10 more Vicodin pills and tested my urine. I went out and got a full body scan at one of those new-fangled places as I can’t trust an HMO to go after the cause and I needed to know. The results (same day) were – stenosis of the spine, and L5 degeneration. The rest of me was ok. Went to the HMO a third time, and asked for something to help me sleep at night, they gave me flexeril. I told them that would not help, it was pain keeping me up, not insomnia. I went back 2 more times, they gave me Darvon – a drug I found as effective as 1/2 an asprin. I begger for something stronger than Vicodin – just a few pills, so I could get some real sleep and perhaps rest better while waiting to find out what’s wrong and how to fix it. They said there was nothing stronger than Vicodin, a bold-faced lie. I’m going back tomorrow – but it’s time to go outside my insurance and find a pain doc. Anyone know of a Pain doc in the SJ area that cares about suffering? After this experience, I will buy from overseas pharmacies, grow my own opium, do whatever it takes to not be at the mercy of those who don’t care if I suffer.
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Heck, don’t wait until tonight — take those puppies now and get to bed! So glad you found someone to listen and help. Not getting sleep is part of a really vicious cycle of anxiety, pain, and fatigue that I’m sure we’re all familiar with. It makes everything that much harder. Happy Zzzzzz’s! :) –knuckles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t have any answers to you, but I wanted to give you my support and empathy, as I also suffer low back degeneration and have had full fusion 2 years ago. I do hope and pray you find help outside your HMO, as they seem to be worthless to you. Why pay for that kind of rotten care? I just don’t get this system at all. I have pretty good insurance, but my problem is in finding a doc to treat my pain, along Well, my HMO finally came through, I finally got to talk with a "real" doctor – who gave me a small perscription for time-release morphine pills. Yahoo! No more waking up every half-an-hour to take 3 Vicodins, wait 45 minutes – repeat, all night. Maybe this drug will let me sleep all night pain free. With some steroids to perhaps convince the nerves in my leg and hip to mellow out. Amazing I had to go to the HMO for 5 visits, but finally tonight, I will take a real pain killer and perhaps sleep well. So, keep going back to your HMO till you find a doc who will care about your pain, is the best advice, I guess!
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Ziggy, it’s not morals that bothers me; it’s those who think they own the book on morals and have the right to preach what they think others should and should not be doing. When anyone has truly figured that out, they won’t just be someone posting to a newsgroup; they will have solved something important in life. You just come off as bored and pious. — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You know, Mouse, if people with morals really bother you this much maybe you should take your own advice and not read their posts. You know, Ziggy, all this playing at being the moral conscience of the group is getting old. I don’t answer to you. Never have. Never will. If you dont’ like my posts, don’t read them, but it’s getting old having you decide whether or not *you* find them appropriate. — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato Stink test… interesting title for deciding whether we choose to believe a fellow pain sufferer. You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 — Ziggy
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Ziggy, it’s not morals that bothers me; it’s those who think they own the book on morals and have the right to preach what they think others should and should not be doing. When anyone has truly figured that out, they won’t just be someone posting to a newsgroup; they will have solved something important in life. You just come off as bored and pious.
Oh my, this is so funny! First of all, who has a "stink test" ? And is saying who has passed it or not? Is that "preaching what they think others should and should not be doing?" Please, Mouse, read what you write! Hey Ziggy, I wouldn’t worry about it. I think that the people who read this NG have better judgement than to allow TweedleDee and TweedleDum decide who they should believe and accept as a fellow pain sufferer with their laughable "stink test" for crying out loud! Lusti (still not bored)
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Well, my HMO finally came through, I finally got to talk with a "real" doctor – who gave me a small perscription for time-release morphine pills. Yahoo! No more waking up
<snip Yahoo! Congrats, Tom. I am glad you got someone to listen to you and I also welcome you to the group. I hope you will hang around a while and perhaps contribute and get to know us and let us get to know you. We are a mixed group, but once you get to know us, you will find we are pretty much like any community, some good ones, some bad, some funny, some whacky! But all in all, most here are good folks and try to support one another. I hope you get a painfree nights sleep! Lusti
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Yahoo! Congrats, Tom. I am glad you got someone to listen to you and I also welcome you to the group. I hope you will hang around a while and perhaps contribute and get to know us and let us get to know you. We are a mixed group, but once you get to know us, you will find we are pretty much like any I hope you get a painfree nights sleep!
thanks, I got my first "good night’s sleep" - 4 hours of sleep, longest I’ve slept in almost 2 weeks. The reason is the 30 mg of time-release morphine. I don’t know why the government is so anti-morphine. It’s in a time release tablet, and I doubt it gets one a better high than a few stiff drinks. It made me feel a bit sleepy and perhaps 1% euphoric (booze gives me 40% euphoria). But it does kill pain – but differently than Vicodin. Vicodin changed my pain to a sensation of warmth for an hour or two. Time-release morphine is different, I feel some "pain" but I am detached from it, rather than wincing in pain, I feel vaguely aware of the pain – reminding me not to move certain ways. It’s been 7 hours and no real pain for 7 hours is neat. And maybe the prednisone will fix the swelling in my lower back region and who knows, I might be able to forget about constant pain for a while – till the day I will probably need at least 1 back operation. Most likely I just have back problems, worst case this is Lupus or a brain tumor, I’ll get my "head checked" with a Catscan/MRI soon (on my own dime, HMO’s don’t cover that.) By the way, if anyone has a medical problem that a HMO or doctor won’t pursue as it’s hard to figure out, ask for a full-body and head catscan/MRI. My uncle had a sore hand and loss of some function, he got a scan and they found a brain tumor – in time to be fixed. Imagine if he didn’t get that scan. If the HMO/insurance won’t pay, a complete scan is under $1,000 – and they check so many more things than a doctor would. Thanks guys!
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Back to the killfile. Get a life, Ziggy., — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So, in your mind, it’s okay for you to judge a new poster and basically call him a liar using your stink test, but it’s wrong for me to comment on you once again attacking another new person coming to the group? Yes, I would have to agree with you that you aren’t bothered by morals. Ziggy, it’s not morals that bothers me; it’s those who think they own the book on morals and have the right to preach what they think others should and should not be doing. When anyone has truly figured that out, they won’t just be someone posting to a newsgroup; they will have solved something important in life. You just come off as bored and pious. — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato You know, Mouse, if people with morals really bother you this much maybe you should take your own advice and not read their posts. You know, Ziggy, all this playing at being the moral conscience of the group is getting old. I don’t answer to you. Never have. Never will. If you dont’ like my posts, don’t read them, but it’s getting old having you decide whether or not *you* find them appropriate. — ~~))))3 A dog has a soul of a philospher. ~Plato Stink test… interesting title for deciding whether we choose to believe a fellow pain sufferer. You woke up with pain *only* 10 days ago, have tried NOTHING else to control it and are willing to break the law to get these drugs—ALREADY? Something here doesn’t pass the stink test… — ~~))))3 — Ziggy
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I just added up the total age of everyone in my kill file, and figured out that it is still less than what my IQ is now that I have FMS? HMM go figure. And No none of you are in it, i consider all of of you in this thread my friends! I just wish we could all get along. Hmm I heard that once before but don’t remember where <G?
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I just added up the total age of everyone in my kill file, and figured out that it is still less than what my IQ is now that I have FMS? HMM go figure. And No none of you are in it, i consider all of of you in this thread my friends! I just wish we could all get along. Hmm I heard that once before but don’t remember where <G? Actually, before you even came along, it had been used here quite often..(with credit given to Rodney),
I believe it’s on our official NG emblem. 
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It always tickles me when I see ppl saying ppl go into their kill files only to reply to the person they have kill filed. I know I am in *someone’s* kill file….BWC Ronnie
I just added up the total age of everyone in my kill file, and figured out that it is still less than what my IQ is now that I have FMS? HMM go figure. And No none of you are in it, i consider all of of you in this thread my friends! I just wish we could all get along. Hmm I heard that once before but don’t remember where <G? Actually, before you even came along, it had been used here quite
often..(with credit given to Rodney), – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe it’s on our official NG emblem.
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What is really funny is over on verizon they have some private verizon customer only ng a dsl ng a flame ng and a general ng and a few others. There seems to be a lot of DeWdS over there who like to hassle people you saw one of the here who called me a freak on one of the threads. They like to go into my threads there and start insulting me and causing trouble, so one day I told this guy I kill filed him, then he changed his nic and comes back as someone else. and I KF him again, his DeWd buddies start getting involved, so I devise a plan to make them all look pathetically stupid. I say ok lets bring this to the flame group. I go there and start a mundane flame, the y start cussing me, attacking me etc, I immediately start kfing them, then of course they keep changing their names fake email address and so forth. I end the thread and post a couple of time in a couple of the other threads, they follow changing there names each time I kf them, each time I change groups and the follow me, see what I am doing yet? By this time they really think they are bugging me, but in reality I am drawing them in deeper and deeper, then I get into this one big long flame with this guy who was originally called Boston blackie, who changed his name to some girl name, we go back and forth and each time I reply, I make some subtle comment trying to let him know I know who he really is like You really are the beacon of ignorance, beacon for beacon hill, and then once I called him Paul, he laughed saying who the hell is Paul? Why I meant Paul revere of course all references to Boston throughout the flame fest. In the mean time all these other DeWdS keep changing their names saying this girl is really giving it to me and I keep kfing them, I keep laughing because they keep changing their names and NO ONE is getting all the Boston references I am making. So I end the flame fest. Things settle down for a few days and yesterday I start a really stupid thread about of all things belly button lint <G, they all chime in again and I got one round more just to kf them one more time each just for kicks. Today I let the cat out of the bag, I tell them, what I have been doing leading them around making them all jump through my hoops for the past couple of weeks, telling them all I had to do was silence them by kill filing them as that is the one thing they just could not take and then I had them, reverse psychology at it’s best, then I lay into Boston Blackie and the rest of them pointing out all the Boston references I made through the little flame thread and how I even outted him in each reply I made all they had to do was read it. The little things I do for fun some times when I get bored and have too much time on my hands <G!
I just added up the total age of everyone in my kill file, and figured out that it is still less than what my IQ is now that I have FMS? HMM go figure. And No none of you are in it, i consider all of of you in this thread my friends! I just wish we could all get along. Hmm I heard that once before but don’t remember where <G? Actually, before you even came along, it had been used here quite
often..(with credit given to Rodney), – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe it’s on our official NG emblem.
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Right after I posted this message I went on over to the verizon flame ng to se if I had any replies and that guy Boston blackie came back with his alter ego with the email address changed once again and he still didn’t get the references I made and didn;t get what I tried to tell him about what I have been doing. I’ll tell you it’s like talking to a friggen rock. And I thought I had brain fog, and he’s not even sick?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What is really funny is over on verizon they have some private verizon customer only ng a dsl ng a flame ng and a general ng and a few others. There seems to be a lot of DeWdS over there who like to hassle people you saw one of the here who called me a freak on one of the threads. They like to go into my threads there and start insulting me and causing trouble, so one day I told this guy I kill filed him, then he changed his nic and comes back as someone else. and I KF him again, his DeWd buddies start getting involved, so I devise a plan to make them all look pathetically stupid. I say ok lets bring this to the flame group. I go there and start a mundane flame, the y start cussing me, attacking me etc, I immediately start kfing them, then of course they keep changing their names fake email address and so forth. I end the thread and post a couple of time in a couple of the other threads, they follow changing there names each time I kf them, each time I change groups and the follow me, see what I am doing yet? By this time they really think they are bugging me, but in reality I am drawing them in deeper and deeper, then I get into this one big long flame with this guy who was originally called Boston blackie, who changed his name to some girl name, we go back and forth and each time I reply, I make some subtle comment trying to let him know I know who he really is like You really are the beacon of ignorance, beacon for beacon hill, and then once I called him Paul, he laughed saying who the hell is Paul? Why I meant Paul revere of course all references to Boston throughout the flame fest. In the mean time all these other DeWdS keep changing their names saying this girl is really giving it to me and I keep kfing them, I keep laughing because they keep changing their names and NO ONE is getting all the Boston references I am making. So I end the flame fest. Things settle down for a few days and yesterday I start a really stupid thread about of all things belly button lint <G, they all chime in again and I got one round more just to kf them one more time each just for kicks. Today I let the cat out of the bag, I tell them, what I have been doing leading them around making them all jump through my hoops for the past couple of weeks, telling them all I had to do was silence them by kill filing them as that is the one thing they just could not take and then I had them, reverse psychology at it’s best, then I lay into Boston Blackie and the rest of them pointing out all the Boston references I made through the little flame thread and how I even outted him in each reply I made all they had to do was read it. The little things I do for fun some times when I get bored and have too much time on my hands <G! I just added up the total age of everyone in my kill file, and figured out that it is still less than what my IQ is now that I have FMS? HMM go figure. And No none of you are in it, i consider all of of you in this thread my friends! I just wish we could all get along. Hmm I heard that once before but don’t remember where <G? Actually, before you even came along, it had been used here quite often..(with credit given to Rodney), I believe it’s on our official NG emblem.
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I do believe BB is going to end up eating you for breakfast. Why do you believe this support newsgroup is the place to brag about your trolling? Be prepared – when they find out that you are bragging here they will be here too.
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Sorry about these new problems guys it’s obvious ruada is a spy just looking to cause more trouble, it seems that is what she does best I would not doubt if she was a verizon customer and one of the people who have been harassing me on the verizon ng’s these past few weeks? I know for sure this guy Boston Blackie is a verizon customer and he has been harassing me for weeks now. I am sorry that he made up some lies here in his post, but I can assure you I have never been talked to by anyone at verizon in a disciplinary manner officially or unofficially. BB is IMHO a kid with some serious problems just looking for attention. I would go into more details but I am sure our little spy and troublemaker would just cause further trouble in our ng!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Right after I posted this message I went on over to the verizon flame ng to se if I had any replies and that guy Boston blackie came back with his alter ego with the email address changed once again and he still didn’t get the references I made and didn;t get what I tried to tell him about what I have been doing. I’ll tell you it’s like talking to a friggen rock. And I thought I had brain fog, and he’s not even sick? What is really funny is over on verizon they have some private verizon customer only ng a dsl ng a flame ng and a general ng and a few others. There seems to be a lot of DeWdS over there who like to hassle people you saw one of the here who called me a freak on one of the threads. They like to go into my threads there and start insulting me and causing trouble, so one day I told this guy I kill filed him, then he changed his nic and comes back as someone else. and I KF him again, his DeWd buddies start getting involved, so I devise a plan to make them all look pathetically stupid. I say ok lets bring this to the flame group. I go there and start a mundane flame, the y start cussing me, attacking me etc, I immediately start kfing them, then of course they keep changing their names fake email address and so forth. I end the thread and post a couple of time in a couple of the other threads, they follow changing there names each time I kf them, each time I change groups and the follow me, see what I am doing yet? By this time they really think they are bugging me, but in reality I am drawing them in deeper and deeper, then I get into this one big long flame with this guy who was originally called Boston blackie, who changed his name to some girl name, we go back and forth and each time I reply, I make some subtle comment trying to let him know I know who he really is like You really are the beacon of ignorance, beacon for beacon hill, and then once I called him Paul, he laughed saying who the hell is Paul? Why I meant Paul revere of course all references to Boston throughout the flame fest. In the mean time all these other DeWdS keep changing their names saying this girl is really giving it to me and I keep kfing them, I keep laughing because they keep changing their names and NO ONE is getting all the Boston references I am making. So I end the flame fest. Things settle down for a few days and yesterday I start a really stupid thread about of all things belly button lint <G, they all chime in again and I got one round more just to kf them one more time each just for kicks. Today I let the cat out of the bag, I tell them, what I have been doing leading them around making them all jump through my hoops for the past couple of weeks, telling them all I had to do was silence them by kill filing them as that is the one thing they just could not take and then I had them, reverse psychology at it’s best, then I lay into Boston Blackie and the rest of them pointing out all the Boston references I made through the little flame thread and how I even outted him in each reply I made all they had to do was read it. The little things I do for fun some times when I get bored and have too much time on my hands <G! I just added up the total age of everyone in my kill file, and figured out that it is still less than what my IQ is now that I have FMS? HMM go figure. And No none of you are in it, i consider all of of you in this thread my friends! I just wish we could all get along. Hmm I heard that once before but don’t remember where <G? Actually, before you even came along, it had been used here quite often..(with credit given to Rodney), I believe it’s on our official NG emblem.
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You might think you’re really smart but do you even know just how badly you screwed up in writing this post? I’m not going to even bother telling you, but I can give you a hint you’re going to find out about it real soon ROFL!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – unleashed an infinite amount of monkeys on an infinite number of typewriters and produced this: What is really funny is over on verizon they have some private verizon customer only ng a dsl ng a flame ng and a general ng and a few others. There seems to be a lot of DeWdS over there who like to hassle people you saw one of the here who called me a freak on one of the threads. What’s even funnier is that spankards like you seem to think that you can talk behind someone’s back and they won’t find out about it. I have friends all over Usenet, so no matter where you go or what you say about me, I’ll get an email. They like to go into my threads there and start insulting me and causing trouble, so one day I told this guy I kill filed him, then he changed his nic and comes back as someone else. and I KF him again, his DeWd buddies start getting involved, so I devise a plan to make them all look pathetically stupid. I say ok lets bring this to the flame group. As is typical with you, spanky, that’s pretty much a lie. At least one other in this very group knows *exactly* what you said and how you were reminded of the TOS provisions by the Executive Support representative. And since you brought it up, let’s examine your homophobia: "He comes into the 0.verizon.discussion.general ng asking about a problems gets help then start flaunting the fact that he’s gay. I think he’s a sick fuck he need a good lesson taught to him but I think god will sort that out in the end and he’ll get his due from the big man!" Now go consult my sig for exactly what a l00zer you really are. I go there and start a mundane flame, the y start cussing me, attacking me etc, I immediately start kfing them, then of course they keep changing their names fake email address and so forth. I end the thread and post a couple of time in a couple of the other threads, they follow changing there names each time I kf them, each time I change groups and the follow me, see what I am doing yet? Only pussies killfile, cupcake. You wanna shoot off your mouth in a flame group, you need to purchase some Nomex undies, spanky. By this time they really think they are bugging me, but in reality I am drawing them in deeper and deeper, then I get into this one big long flame with this guy who was originally called Boston blackie, Liar. It wasn’t a long flame at all. Two spanks on your bigotry and homophobia and I get plonked while you continue to be lame. who changed his name to some girl name, It was Lois Steem, fr00tloop, and *everyone* but *you* detected it. we go back and forth and each time I reply, I make some subtle comment trying to let him know I know who he really is like You really are the beacon of ignorance, beacon for beacon hill, and then once I called him Paul, he laughed saying who the hell is Paul? Why I meant Paul revere of course all references to Boston throughout the flame fest. Message-ID, liar? I have them all archived. In the mean time all these other DeWdS keep changing their names saying this girl is really giving it to me and I keep kfing them, I keep laughing because they keep changing their names and NO ONE is getting all the Boston references I am making. So I end the flame fest. Only one other changed their nym, spankbait. And that’s because you can’t take what you dish out, so you wuss out and killfile. Things settle down for a few days and yesterday I start a really stupid thread about of all things belly button lint <G, they all chime in again and I got one round more just to kf them one more time each just for kicks. Oh yeah, a *flame* about belly button lint. <GUFFAW. And don’t forget to mention the tens of times that you kept dropping the name of alt.flame and how you are the all-time best flamer on Usenet. And then there was a thread about how *Arcnet* was the forerunner of the internet. <snicker. I’ll bet Al Gore sought your sage advice when he invented the internet. Today I let the cat out of the bag, I tell them, what I have been doing leading them around making them all jump through my hoops for the past couple of weeks, telling them all I had to do was silence them by kill filing them as that is the one thing they just could not take and then I had them, reverse psychology at it’s best, then I lay into Boston Blackie and the rest of them pointing out all the Boston references I made through the little flame thread and how I even outted him in each reply I made all they had to do was read it. The little things I do for fun some times when I get bored and have too much time on my hands <G! Nice to see how much you like being toasted, fuckup. Too bad that your such a sad, pathetic little fuckwad that constantly thinks he’s *winning* and declares himself so. In reality, you’re just a whining little pisspot with a big mouth and no talent. — Boston Blackie
