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Kathleen <kathleen.dick…@snet.net> wrote: > LOL. It’s like having the TV on > in the background and actually it > isn’t. I am always walking in there > at the end of the day to shut it > off and it isn’t on. LOL > Keeps ya company?
Sometimes I try to believe it is a tv (at the neighbours). But the voices (or my beliefs about them) have changed a lot (in the positive sense. As long I am aware that I can do so, they remain more like thought echos (that seem to come from the neighbors). But when I don’t think and just listen they usually scare me and shut my thinking up so that their talking has even more authority and more priority than my own thoughts. But the last few weeks, ever since my last bad relapse (2 months ago) I have been able to gain control over them and have these thought echos without being scared that I am somehow influencing the neighbours and make them say what I think. Nowadays when they speak, I can simply add ‘bla bla’ coming from the same source. Doing that decreases (of course) the impact of what the voice said and keeps me relaxed enough to keep maintaining what I was thinking or doing at the time. > It’s the giant mice at the foot > of my bed gnawing wood that I > have lost to Zyprexa (LOL I can’t > stop laughing about this craziness, > but you people understand, right?) > Gigantic mice and 3 ft bunnies. > Panthers along I-95.
So you lost the visuals to zyprexa? > I stopped watching TV in the summer. > I didn’t like what the faces were > doing when I got tired, and I > am always tired. Brain tired.
Movies do tire me out sometimes, because the voices seem to demand my attention or alertness as well, to not be surprised by them. Greetings, Mervyn — Sent using an unregistered copy of RMRNews v1.02 Check out our website at http://www.rmrsoft.com/ for other high quality software for EPOC machines.
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Dingo Dan the bard wrote: > I usually have to resort to half a sleeping pill when insomnia hits. > I have never learnt how to combat this problem effectively.
dingo dan, i have had very much success with breathing exercises. would you like me to teach you some?? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Dingo Dan the bard <K…@managerie.com.au> wrote: > > > Another stratagy I use it to pick a comic name for these voices. > > I call them the 1st, 2nd and 3nd chamber, depending on the direction > > the voices are. > I too have experienced having a number of channels opened. > I sometimes us a strategy I call "flooding" where a saturate one of these > channels via singing. > 2 channels are then occupied, the one singing and the conscious one. > This limits the voice’s effectiveness, but once again, the multi-tasking does > take a bit of effort. > > Which is meant to be funny as well since the dutch > > government has a 1st (the senate) and 2nd chamber (congress?), but no > > third. > > > All in all it is effective, tho it does put a greater strain in general on > > > me compared to a "normal" lifestyle. > > > Something like how a computer slows down when it multi-tasks. > > That’s a great metaphor, I think I’ll use that sometimes when I need to > > explain it. > I have had a number of decades thinking about this problem. > Experience does help me… > I hope that most people will improve their ability in coping with experience. > > Greetings, > > Mervyn > Take care… > Dingo Dan…
– ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> "out on the road today i saw a deadhead sticker on a cadillac a little voice inside my head said ‘dont look back’ you can never look back……" "blessed am i to dwell in this beautiful temple" ~~~~~~~~~ rainbows ~~~~~~~~~~>
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"anna" wrote: > Dingo Dan the bard wrote: > > I usually have to resort to half a sleeping pill when insomnia hits. > > I have never learnt how to combat this problem effectively. > dingo dan, i have had very much success with breathing exercises. would > you like me to teach you some??
Heavy breathing excersies with you?… any day, Raindear. 
I tried the "breath in…breath out…" thing "while thinking of a peaceful setting…" Limited result… Half a sleeping tablet is much easier. But I would be interested in what you have to say… I have never stopped learning and am ready to add to my knowledge base at any time… Dingo Dan…
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -mervyn wrote: > neighbors). But when I don’t think and just listen they usually scare > me and > shut my thinking up so that their talking has even more authority and > more > priority than my own thoughts. > But the last few weeks, ever since my last bad relapse (2 months ago) I > have been able to gain control over them and have these thought echos > without being scared that I am somehow > influencing the neighbours and make them say what I think. Nowadays > when they > speak, I can simply add ‘bla bla’ coming from the same source. Doing > that decreases > (of course) the impact of what the voice said and keeps me relaxed > enough to keep > maintaining what I was thinking or doing at the time.
The way I usually cope is to "simply" concentrate on what I am doing. Don’t berate myself and just keep getting back on the wagon. "Simply" doesn’t really describe it. These voices are very demanding and it takes much too much effort to ignore them at times. I am a long term sz and as a result, the voices that other people might perceive as external originally felt part of my own thinking. These days, when I need to, I define my intent and consider anything outside this intent as external and ignore it. I don’t waste time arguing with these thoughts. That is simply a good method of wasting time. Another stratagy I use it to pick a comic name for these voices. I use Mickey mouse. If Mickey threatens mischief, it is less convincing than some more sinister image. As a back up I use mantras such as: "I am not the conscience of the world" Or "These are not my thoughts." All in all it is effective, tho it does put a greater strain in general on me compared to a "normal" lifestyle. Something like how a computer slows down when it multi-tasks. > Movies do tire me out sometimes, because the voices seem to demand > my attention or alertness as well, to not be surprised by them.
They are a bitch. People who don’t have to cope with this shit don’t have a clue. Take care… Dingo Dan…
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Hi Dingo, Thanks for your reply. I also try not argue or overanalyse them, what I described is my way of cutting their arguments short, to remain focused on what I do or to remain relaxed when I am trying to sleep. Dingo Dan the bard <K…@managerie.com.au> wrote: > Another stratagy I use it to pick a comic name for these voices.
I call them the 1st, 2nd and 3nd chamber, depending on the direction the voices are. Which is meant to be funny as well since the dutch government has a 1st (the senate) and 2nd chamber (congress?), but no third. > All in all it is effective, tho it does put a greater strain in general on > me compared to a "normal" lifestyle. > Something like how a computer slows down when it multi-tasks.
That’s a great metaphor, I think I’ll use that sometimes when I need to explain it. Greetings, Mervyn — Sent using an unregistered copy of RMRNews v1.02 Check out our website at http://www.rmrsoft.com/ for other high quality software for EPOC machines.
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Hi Mervyn… mervyn wrote: > Hi Dingo, > Thanks for your reply. I also try not argue or overanalyse them,
I realised quite late in life that these voices seem to have direction…purpose. I finally realised that a favourite strategy for them is to seemingly take my position and argue against themselves to start the ball rolling with the inner dialogue arguments. I finally realised that the seeming intent by them was to have *any* dialogue, regardless of content. The point seemed to be to simply occupy my time, seemingly to learn better how to occupy my time. Once I identified this strategy, I simply gave them the flick. I gain tremendous satisfaction knowing I am not giving them what they want. I even tease them, …get them going…and then ignore them like a former girlfriend used to do to me. Oh the wiles of a female mind! <chuckle> If you see me smiling, it could quite possibly be because I am laughing at the ineffectiveness of these voices. > what I > described is my way of cutting their arguments short, to remain focused > on what I do
I found this the best strategy for me. Don’t give them what they want. > or to remain relaxed when I am trying to sleep.
I usually have to resort to half a sleeping pill when insomnia hits. I have never learnt how to combat this problem effectively. > Dingo Dan the bard <K…@managerie.com.au> wrote: > > Another stratagy I use it to pick a comic name for these voices. > I call them the 1st, 2nd and 3nd chamber, depending on the direction > the voices are.
I too have experienced having a number of channels opened. I sometimes us a strategy I call "flooding" where a saturate one of these channels via singing. 2 channels are then occupied, the one singing and the conscious one. This limits the voice’s effectiveness, but once again, the multi-tasking does take a bit of effort. > Which is meant to be funny as well since the dutch > government has a 1st (the senate) and 2nd chamber (congress?), but no > third. > > All in all it is effective, tho it does put a greater strain in general on > > me compared to a "normal" lifestyle. > > Something like how a computer slows down when it multi-tasks. > That’s a great metaphor, I think I’ll use that sometimes when I need to > explain it.
I have had a number of decades thinking about this problem. Experience does help me… I hope that most people will improve their ability in coping with experience. > Greetings, > Mervyn
Take care… Dingo Dan…
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>I’m only getting the not-scary ones, >like the TV, on when it isn’t. And >Panthers skipping across I-95. And weird >scents.
I-95? That means you’re on the east coast. Mind if I ask where along the coast you live? I’m in CT, minutes away from I-95. Just curious T.
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Kathleen <kathleen.dick…@snet.net> wrote: > Anybody continue with auditory > hallucinations on Zyprexa?
Yes, I use zyprexa but my voices came back after 10 months of using it. First they vanished but then again they were already decreasing when I started taking zyprexa. Then they came back a month after I started working 3 whole days. Now I work 3 afternoons again and its improving a lot, but I do have relapses (semipsychotic) every few weeks. I only use 2.5 mg a day which is enough to control delusions. I wouldnt want to use more even if it meant losing the voices. greetings Mervyn — Sent using an unregistered copy of RMRNews v1.02 Check out our website at http://www.rmrsoft.com/ for other high quality software for EPOC machines.
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Kathleen wrote in message <3A17A60F.4…@snet.net>… >Anybody continue with auditory >hallucinations on Zyprexa?
<snip> Hi Kathleen, I don’t post in many threads about sz experiences because I’m a "normal," so I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting you before. My son has been on Zyprexa for a little over three years, and his voices have never gone away completely. He says they stay in the background, and don’t bother him much. A few months ago he had a very stressfull job, and they started becoming more frequent and stronger. He quit the job. For him it’s been the best by far of the meds he’s tried. Lily
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Same here – Zyprexa is doing good by me. Ed
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Taelisyn Stormcrow wrote: > >I’m only getting the not-scary ones, > >like the TV, on when it isn’t. And > >Panthers skipping across I-95. And weird > >scents. > I-95? That means you’re on the east coast. Mind if I ask where along > the coast you live? I’m in CT, minutes away from I-95. > Just curious > T.
Pawcatuck, (that’s right next to Westerly RI) but I’m from the New Haven area. So I do I-95 a lot. Have you seen the panthers or 3 ft tal black bunnies along I-95 too? LOL The panther bolted over the Jersey Barriers from the Northbound lane and into the three Southbound lanes near East Haven and the Truck stop there. But didn’t come out the other side (LOL) so I slowed down expecting a crash, but no one else slowed down so I imagine I imagined it. What a Dork. K
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -mervyn wrote: > Kathleen <kathleen.dick…@snet.net> wrote: > > Anybody continue with auditory > > hallucinations on Zyprexa? > Yes, I use zyprexa but my voices came back after 10 months of using it. > First they vanished but then again they were already decreasing when > I started taking zyprexa. Then they came back a month after I started > working 3 whole days. Now I work 3 afternoons again and its > improving a lot, but I do have relapses (semipsychotic) every few weeks. > I only use 2.5 mg a day which is enough to control delusions. > I wouldnt want to use more even if it meant losing the voices. > greetings > Mervyn
LOL. It’s like having the TV on in the background and actually it isn’t. I am always walking in there at the end of the day to shut it off and it isn’t on. LOL Keeps ya company? It’s the giant mice at the foot of my bed gnawing wood that I have lost to Zyprexa (LOL I can’t stop laughing about this craziness, but you people understand, right?) Gigantic mice and 3 ft bunnies. Panthers along I-95. I stopped watching TV in the summer. I didn’t like what the faces were doing when I got tired, and I am always tired. Brain tired. That could be Lyme. I mean, I think it is Lyme, plus predisposition to, uh, distortion? Kathleen
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Anybody continue with auditory hallucinations on Zyprexa? I’m only getting the not-scary ones, like the TV, on when it isn’t. And Panthers skipping across I-95. And weird scents. I’m so lost in Wonderland. Lyme and Schizohrenia. A Psychiatric Variety Show. Someone was talking about mood stabilizers. Do you take these in addition to neuroleptics? Oy! not MORE drugs! I work out every day and have for almost 14 years now. That helped tremendously to stabilize mood. Maybe I need to work out harder to get the same effect… Hasta Luego K
