The Original Mattress Factory – Buyer Beware!
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:53:48 -0500, karen.whel…@verizon.net (Karen Wheless) wrote: >e of steel (although it has plastic >"separators" on the edges,
Why is a boxspring important? How is a boxspring important? Why not just have a solid object underneath the mattress? Like say… the floor?
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> Why is a boxspring important? > How is a boxspring important? > Why not just have a solid object underneath the mattress? Like say… > the floor?
A box spring provides a mattress with a little bit more "give". It’s firmer than the regular mattress but not as firm as just a piece of wood. It relieves the pressure on the springs that you’d have it you just put the mattress on a piece of wood (or the floor). There are some beds that are set up so you just lay the mattress directly on a piece of wood, but in my experience, when you just have the mattress laying on wood (or the floor) it wears out faster and is a lot less comfortable. When my old box spring fell apart, I ended up just nailing a bunch of boards to the box spring frame. The result was a mattress that was fairly uncomfortable, especially over the long term, it was hard to get comfortable and I would often wake up feeling achy and tired in the morning. I put a feather bed over the mattress to make it softer, but it still didn’t have the support that I liked. I know some people like sleeping on boards, but I find a firmly supportive mattress to be much more comfortable for my back. I also found that the mattress started getting really sloped in the middle and saggy shortly after I replaced the regular box spring with the boards. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but the mattress definitely didn’t last all that long – after just 4 or 5 years it was horribly sagged and almost unusable. It probably varies from person to person – I’m someone who tosses and turns a lot at night, even with a good mattress. I probably turn over 50 or 100 times a night before I get to sleep. I’ve always had problems falling asleep and with insomnia, no matter what I’ve done to try and alleviate it. And for me, sleeping on a mattress on a board makes it much more uncomfortable and difficult. Someone who gets into bed, shuts their eyes and immediately falls asleep might not be as bothered. (Such lucky people! Even when I was a kid I could never dozon.t.) Karen — — http://www.romance-bookstores.com
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 03:28:21 GMT, Catholic Boy <C…@cboy.com> wrote: >On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:53:48 -0500, karen.whel…@verizon.net (Karen >Wheless) wrote: >>e of steel (although it has plastic >>"separators" on the edges, >Why is a boxspring important? >How is a boxspring important? >Why not just have a solid object underneath the mattress? Like say… >the floor?
You’ll get lots of theories, so here’s mine: A box spring is purely to provide a sit-down height. Bob
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:17:46 -0500, karen.whel…@verizon.net (Karen Wheless) wrote: >> Why is a boxspring important?
snip Someone who gets into bed, shuts >their eyes and immediately falls asleep might not be as bothered. (Such >lucky people! Even when I was a kid I could never dozon.t.) >Karen
While I was in the Army, I learned to sleep standing up, or laid out in broad daylight in middle of a runway at a busy air force base, with a full pack, a rifle, and two parachutes strapped on. It helped that I was always tired from being run half to death to get there at 7 am and then wait for the pilots till noon to take off. I ascended in many a plane I didn’t land in. When I was a parachute rigger, and we got sorta caught up, we’d climb up in the middle of a lumpy stack of chutes and conk out for an hour or two. Sleeping a bit here and there is actually efficient, and a trick that came in handy in my later life as a fireman, when I seldom got a whole night. I also learned to wake up suddenly and completely. Point is, if you can’t sleep, you just ain’t tired enough yet. Bob
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wow karen.. very good post… I’ve slept on a lot of different sets and I didn’t really think of it that way… I guess that makes sense.. I had a waterbed with a simmons beautyrest in it but it just wasn’t as comfortable as a regular bed… and some places don’t even give you a box spring.. they give you a "foundation" which is really just a box…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->case, I think the name brand did mean something. >Karen
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Karen Excellent response! Rob
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Natalie, Yes, we have flipped mattress’ before as well. This is no excuse but, my wife and I are 58 years old and our bedroom is not very large. So, for us to flip this 150 lb elephant is a major major job. In hind-sight, if I had known that the box spring was so fragile, I would have attempted a different strategy. Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Natalie Lambert <Natalie__LambertNOS…@hotmail.com> wrote in message <news:6e24vuk2fqf6cqm7ear1lqcr44crmcdhal@4ax.com>… > On ATT News <peter…@attbi.com> wrote: > > They said that the two > >box springs were damaged beyond repair due to being walked on! The > >cotton insulators and pad in the mattress had compressed and needed to > >be replaced. We told them that we had not jumped on the box spring but > >that it was necessary to step on it to do the rotation. In defense, we > >said that The Original Mattress Factory inspector (Mike) said it was ok > >to walk on the box springs but apparently the offices had a different > >opinion. > I’ve flipped mattresses before. I have to ask why it is > necessary to "walk" on the mattress? Whenever i’ve flipped > a mattress i’ve always done it standing on the floor. > I’ve found it hard to flip something you are standing on. > ====================================================== > To reply remove No spam from my e-mail address. > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Robert S. Harrison" wrote: > On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:12:48 GMT, ATT News <peter…@attbi.com> wrote: > > The Original Mattress Factory > > Buyer Beware! > Might as well stop right there. You damaged the mattress yourself. > Get over it. > >HOW THE CUSTOMER WAS TREATED > Threats… At this point a company rep with balls would have told you > to go fuck your old self. > >ONE MORE THING > >The Original Mattress Factory advertises that they provide you value by > Why the fuck didn’t you do this research *before* buying their shitty > product? Is any of this logic sinking into that decaying cranium of > yours? > As usual on USENET, another fucktard getting his panties in a wad. > r…@rharrisonplc.com
Well, I’m sure we’re all better off for your thoughtful contribution to consumer education. Thanks SO much …. — (Go Fish!)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -David Gibson wrote: > "Robert S. Harrison" wrote: > > On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:12:48 GMT, ATT News <peter…@attbi.com> wrote: > > > The Original Mattress Factory > > > Buyer Beware! > > Might as well stop right there. You damaged the mattress yourself. > > Get over it. > > >HOW THE CUSTOMER WAS TREATED > > Threats… At this point a company rep with balls would have told you > > to go fuck your old self. > > >ONE MORE THING > > >The Original Mattress Factory advertises that they provide you value by > > Why the fuck didn’t you do this research *before* buying their shitty > > product? Is any of this logic sinking into that decaying cranium of > > yours? > > As usual on USENET, another fucktard getting his panties in a wad. > > r…@rharrisonplc.com > Well, I’m sure we’re all better off for your thoughtful contribution to > consumer education. > Thanks SO much …. > — > (Go Fish!)
To see another of his throughtful contributions to a newsgroup, take a look at http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:robert+author:s+author:harri… And then join me in throwing the twit switch. Plonk!
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In article <WJnI9.47446$hK4.4171…@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, TKM <light…@ieee.org> wrote: >Thanks – very helpful information. I’d planned to check out the OMF for a >mattress purchase in the next couple of months. It’s good to have some >check points. >TKM
I purchased a mattress+box spring from the Original Mattress Factory in Raleigh a couple of years ago on the recommendation from my parents, and have been very pleased with it (as well as pleased with the service in the store). I think if you do a google groups search that you’ll find plenty of positive reviews for this place. (I have never stood on the box spring while flipping the mattress, though.) Kent —
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On ATT News <peter…@attbi.com> wrote: > They said that the two >box springs were damaged beyond repair due to being walked on! The >cotton insulators and pad in the mattress had compressed and needed to >be replaced. We told them that we had not jumped on the box spring but >that it was necessary to step on it to do the rotation. In defense, we >said that The Original Mattress Factory inspector (Mike) said it was ok >to walk on the box springs but apparently the offices had a different >opinion.
I’ve flipped mattresses before. I have to ask why it is necessary to "walk" on the mattress? Whenever i’ve flipped a mattress i’ve always done it standing on the floor. I’ve found it hard to flip something you are standing on. ====================================================== To reply remove No spam from my e-mail address. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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> Also, when looking for mattress sets, the OMF had samples of all the > other manufacturers mattress’, you know the cutaway. But, they never > had a sample of the other guys box spring. Now I know why. Yes, I > should have been smarter.
From my experience in mattress shopping (and trying different mattress brands), I think the biggest difference between mattresses is the box spring construction, not the mattress construction. If you look at all the different brands of mattresses, most of them are made pretty similarly. There are some differences (which the different manufacturers play up) but no one can really say whether one is better than the other. Various studies (consumer reports, etc.) basically say all the major brands are similar. But a big difference, especially between the major brands and the lower ones, and the cheaper models within a brand and the more expensive models, is the box spring. My first mattress set had a pretty good quality mattress. It was one of the lesser known brands (not one of the three S’s) but the mattress itself seemed very well made. I looked at the cut-away models and lay on the mattresses and examined the springs. It was pretty nice. But when it was delivered, I discovered the big difference – the box spring. The box spring was cheap, made of nothing but plywood and cardboard. It was fine for a year or so, then the cheap plywood slats started cracking, the cheap cardboard cover splitting, the cheap nailed connections pulling away from the sides. I found out that the company stood behind its mattress – but not its box spring. I tried to keep the bed together by nailing boards to the top of the cheap box spring, but it didn’t work very well, and without a good box spring, the mattress deteriorated rapidly. When I bought my second set, about 2 years ago, I looked at the box springs first. Most of the mattress stores didn’t even want to tell me about the box springs (or didn’t know) but I did my research and ended up with the best quality box spring I could get at the price I could pay. The one I have is made of steel (although it has plastic "separators" on the edges, something that wasn’t mentioned and couldn’t be seen in the cut-away at the store). It’s a Sealy. The other big name brands also have pretty good box springs, but I think mattress stores often do a "bait and switch" with the box springs, especially on the cheaper models, knowing that most people don’t check them and inspect them on delivery – they just look at the mattress. I made sure I was getting the box spring I wanted. Mattresses are very hard to shop for – and there have been a LOT of posts and articles praising the "original mattress factory". I considered them myself because so many people posted glowingly about them. I decided that I wanted to go with a name brand – and in this case, I think the name brand did mean something. Karen — — http://www.romance-bookstores.com
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Gosh Bob, Your a little harsh arn’t you? Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed or are you always so negative? > Might as well stop right there. You damaged the mattress yourself. > Get over it.
Good point. The question is, should one be able to destroy a box spring by stepping on it? Does this constitute abuse to step on the mattress during the flipping process? > Threats… At this point a company rep with balls would have told you > to go fuck your old self.
Goodness, such a dirty mouth — your mother should wash that out with soap. FYI, the treatment we received preceeded the threats. We did not start with that in mind, only after the OMF did their thing. > Why the fuck didn’t you do this research *before* buying their shitty > product? Is any of this logic sinking into that decaying cranium of > yours?
More crude language — I am surprised at you Bob. Must you always use profanity to express yourself? Anyway, again you make a good point {somewhere} between the f*** words. As even you should know, its not easy to evaluate mattress’ since there are no standards, etc. One must determine how it feels and what it costs and… is what the sales person telling you the truth. OMF had many examples of other mattress’ cutaways, but no box spring. And, being like most consumers, I did not appreciate the importance of the box spring and how important it to the life expectancy of the unit. I just bought into the "eliminate the middleman" thing and you get more value. Yes, I was wrong in believing the OMF line. > As usual on USENET, another fucktard getting his panties in a wad.
Bob, you really should control your passions — they will be the death of you. Perhaps some anger management??
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> "ATT News" <peter…@attbi.com> wrote in message > news:ktmI9.62249$pN3.4636@sccrnsc03… > > ONE MORE THING
The prices they have for name brand > > mattress’ is almost identical to what the Original Mattress Factory > > charges for their product. Our Original Mattress Factory King Premier > > Pillow top was $949 (same price today). Sealy’s were in this price > > range, and some on sale for less.
I’m sort of curious why you even bought the stuff from OMF in the first place, when the other name brands (including the sealy) where the same price or less? Are you a glutton for over priced/under performing items? I have some swampland in FL, want to own some property in FL? 
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In article <8a74vu4hfj6g31fjb6937ueeddvpqru…@4ax.com>, Natalie Lambert <Natalie__LambertNOS…@hotmail.com> wrote: > You should be flipping the mattress, not the box spring. > Also you should be standing on the floor not on the box > spring.
Two older people need all the leverage they can get on a mattress as large as a King-sized one. I stand on the floor to move my Queen-sized mattress, but King-sized is much larger. And they didn’t say they were flipping the box spring. They said they had to stand on the box spring to flip the mattress. Read it more carefully. — Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship
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Peter, > I’m sort of curious why you even bought the stuff from OMF in the first > place, when the other name brands (including the sealy) where the same price > or less? Are you a glutton for over priced/under performing items? I have > some swampland in FL, want to own some property in FL?
As you know, it is very difficult to evaluate one mattress manufacturer against the other. There are no standards to use so one has to use the seat-of-their-pants approach, i.e. 1. How does it feel and 2. Am I getting value for my dollars. In the case of the OMF they talk a very good game about being able to provide value above the major brands by "eliminating the middleman". Truth be told, one has to believe someone. Like I said, if they had stood behind their product in the first place this would not have happened. And yes, one can say that I dammaged the box spring by walking on it. However, I have had a lot of box springs over the years and have never dammaged one. The OMF inspector said "sure you can walk on it" but in doing so the product was dammaged. This spells cheap product in my book. Also, when looking for mattress sets, the OMF had samples of all the other manufacturers mattress’, you know the cutaway. But, they never had a sample of the other guys box spring. Now I know why. Yes, I should have been smarter.
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"ATT News" <peter…@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:ktmI9.62249$pN3.4636@sccrnsc03… > ONE MORE THING > The Original Mattress Factory advertises that they provide you value by > eliminating the middleman
