There is light at the end of the tunnel!
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"HomemakerJ" <homemak…@home.com> wrote >(provider of Bedtime Stories)
I could use one tonight. I slept great all week up in the mountains, but as soon as I got back to sea-level, the insomnia came back!!! –Jane
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Maureen wrote: > Hello all you lovely ladies, I used to frequent this ng a few years back > and got lots of support, and it’s my turn to give you all the knowledge that > you DO come through this thing! I never took HRT replacement. I have > osteoporosis, and this could be hereditary or caused through smoking and > drinking.
welcome home, maureen… please stay around. hugs, kitten — barbara trumpinski-roberts (smotu) ACES Library kitt…@uiuc.edu "Neither TANSTAAFL nor PayItForward is about keeping account books…They are about an attitude and a way of living, about being a mensch. Gallantly, and with style, ideally."–Dee alt.fan.heinlein
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"Sandra Whiting" <Sandra.Whit…@iclway.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3bfd092b_1@news1.vip.uk.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Chris Malcolm" <c…@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:9tim6q$dju$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk… > > "sunshine" <dianne.hay…@home.com> writes: > <snipped> > > >i joined this ng, because i wanted to reach out for suppory, education > and > > >hope. but nobody seems to talk about menopause. seems like a tight-knit > > >community that talk about anything. > > Don’t jump to conclusions. Ask your questions. And don’t be > > embarrassed by seeing old friends gabbing about all sorts of > > stuff. That’s support too. If you want information and support on > > menopause you’re in the best possible place here. > > — > > Chris Malcolm c…@dai.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 650 3085 > > School of Artificial Intelligence, Division of Informatics > > Edinburgh University, 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK > > [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/daidb/people/homes/cam/ ] DoD #205 > I feel moved to second Chris’s above remark….. and I only *know* Chris > from reading his posts as I do most of the contributors to this group. I am > a very infrequent poster but a regular reader > There is a great host of lurkers here and they too must sometimes think that > this is just a group of friends chatting but it’s the regulars who keep the > momentum of the group going and they are always ready, as far as I can see, > to help answer any questions. > It’s like anything else… the more you put in…..the more you get out. > Sandra.
Well-said, Sandra and Chris. I’ve posted here regularly since about 1997, and I have been referred to the best information available whenever I do ask a question (and I’ve experienced many of the listed symptoms over time). The Web sites maintained by Tishy and Laura are the most informative I’ve ever found on the topic, and some of the people who post here are up-to-the-minute on reporting about menopausal research. Just think of it as moving into a new neighborhood and getting to know new friends. –Jane
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:48:46 GMT, Kevin and Sue <kjmul…@home.com> wrote: >I have had trouble sleeping for a number of years, I attribute it to my >CFS, never thought of peri. >I now take ENADA/NADH for my CFS and it really helps me sleep more >soundly. I think it might help some of you who are having trouble >sleeping. >sue
I don’t think I know a middle-aged person, male or female, who hasn’t had insomnia during this age of life. It may seem to pair up with menopause, but everybody gets it, is my observation. (The people I know personally who are having the most trouble with it just now, happen to be male — some of my co-workers.) Lianne >HomemakerJ wrote: >> Cathy Friedmann wrote: >> > but now, after my last period in ‘96, I’ve had insomnia for almost 5 years – >> > and so feel almost constantly lagging sleep-wise, along with hot flashes (& >> > sometimes cold flashes) that come in waves, as the main features. >> I didn’t realize that you’ve been having insomnia for five years. There was >> another poster named Cathe who also had that for her main complaint. Perhaps >> try changing your name? 
Otherwise, my sympathies. Insomnia is not fun! >> Cool Runnings, >> HomemakerJ (provider of Bedtime Stories)
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"Chris Malcolm" <c…@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:9tim6q$dju$1@scotsman.ed.ac.uk… > "sunshine" <dianne.hay…@home.com> writes:
<snipped> > >i joined this ng, because i wanted to reach out for suppory, education and > >hope. but nobody seems to talk about menopause. seems like a tight-knit > >community that talk about anything. > Don’t jump to conclusions. Ask your questions. And don’t be > embarrassed by seeing old friends gabbing about all sorts of > stuff. That’s support too. If you want information and support on > menopause you’re in the best possible place here. > — > Chris Malcolm c…@dai.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 650 3085 > School of Artificial Intelligence, Division of Informatics > Edinburgh University, 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK > [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/daidb/people/homes/cam/ ] DoD #205
I feel moved to second Chris’s above remark….. and I only *know* Chris from reading his posts as I do most of the contributors to this group. I am a very infrequent poster but a regular reader There is a great host of lurkers here and they too must sometimes think that this is just a group of friends chatting but it’s the regulars who keep the momentum of the group going and they are always ready, as far as I can see, to help answer any questions. It’s like anything else… the more you put in…..the more you get out. Sandra.
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I have had trouble sleeping for a number of years, I attribute it to my CFS, never thought of peri. I now take ENADA/NADH for my CFS and it really helps me sleep more soundly. I think it might help some of you who are having trouble sleeping. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -HomemakerJ wrote: > Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > but now, after my last period in ‘96, I’ve had insomnia for almost 5 years – > > and so feel almost constantly lagging sleep-wise, along with hot flashes (& > > sometimes cold flashes) that come in waves, as the main features. > I didn’t realize that you’ve been having insomnia for five years. There was > another poster named Cathe who also had that for her main complaint. Perhaps > try changing your name? Otherwise, my sympathies. Insomnia is not fun! > Cool Runnings, > HomemakerJ (provider of Bedtime Stories)
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Chris, Many of us who have CFS and/or Fibromyalgia would give anything to have a disease that is curable or at least could be controled by some form of treatment. I believe that my peri/meno problems will gone long before my CFS is gone, if it ever is. sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chris Malcolm wrote: > "sunshine" <dianne.hay…@home.com> writes: > >last week my gp said i am officially in menopause, probably for some time. > >idon’t have hot flashes or sweats etc. my iron(hgb was 9), and i have been > >disabled for 12 years(6 in bed) with cfs and fibromyalgia. > I once thought I might be developing fibromyalgia. Couldn’t touch my > ears or my feet without great pain and struggle. But it turned out to > be polymyalgia rheumatica, which usually goes away after several years > and for which (unlike CFS and fibromyalgia) there is very good > symptomatic relief possible while sitting it out. Very similar > symptoms. However, while thinking I might have fibromyalgia, I became > very impressed with Mary Ellen copleand’s book "Fibromyalgia and > Chronic Myofascial Pain Syndrome", which many sufferers swear by. Just > mentioning it in case you haven’t come across it. I do recommend it > for an unusual view of the family of disorders which has very good > backing, and which has definitely helped some people get part way out > of the vicious circular traps which are such a characteristic feature > of these disorders. > >i joined this ng, because i wanted to reach out for suppory, education and > >hope. but nobody seems to talk about menopause. seems like a tight-knit > >community that talk about anything. > Don’t jump to conclusions. Ask your questions. And don’t be > embarrassed by seeing old friends gabbing about all sorts of > stuff. That’s support too. If you want information and support on > menopause you’re in the best possible place here. > — > Chris Malcolm c…@dai.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 650 3085 > School of Artificial Intelligence, Division of Informatics > Edinburgh University, 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK > [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/daidb/people/homes/cam/ ] DoD #205
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"sunshine" <dianne.hay…@home.com> writes: >last week my gp said i am officially in menopause, probably for some time. >idon’t have hot flashes or sweats etc. my iron(hgb was 9), and i have been >disabled for 12 years(6 in bed) with cfs and fibromyalgia.
I once thought I might be developing fibromyalgia. Couldn’t touch my ears or my feet without great pain and struggle. But it turned out to be polymyalgia rheumatica, which usually goes away after several years and for which (unlike CFS and fibromyalgia) there is very good symptomatic relief possible while sitting it out. Very similar symptoms. However, while thinking I might have fibromyalgia, I became very impressed with Mary Ellen copleand’s book "Fibromyalgia and Chronic Myofascial Pain Syndrome", which many sufferers swear by. Just mentioning it in case you haven’t come across it. I do recommend it for an unusual view of the family of disorders which has very good backing, and which has definitely helped some people get part way out of the vicious circular traps which are such a characteristic feature of these disorders. >i joined this ng, because i wanted to reach out for suppory, education and >hope. but nobody seems to talk about menopause. seems like a tight-knit >community that talk about anything.
Don’t jump to conclusions. Ask your questions. And don’t be embarrassed by seeing old friends gabbing about all sorts of stuff. That’s support too. If you want information and support on menopause you’re in the best possible place here. — Chris Malcolm c…@dai.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 650 3085 School of Artificial Intelligence, Division of Informatics Edinburgh University, 5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/daidb/people/homes/cam/ ] DoD #205
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HomemakerJ <homemak…@home.com> wrote in message
news:3BFC926A.CD8AF22A@home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cathy Friedmann wrote: > > but now, after my last period in ‘96, I’ve had insomnia for almost 5 years – > > and so feel almost constantly lagging sleep-wise, along with hot flashes (& > > sometimes cold flashes) that come in waves, as the main features. > I didn’t realize that you’ve been having insomnia for five years. There was > another poster named Cathe who also had that for her main complaint. Perhaps > try changing your name? Otherwise, my sympathies. Insomnia is not fun! > Cool Runnings, > HomemakerJ (provider of Bedtime Stories)
Hmmmm… Sarah?? Lynn?? Sophie?? Naomi?? Wonder if they would have insomnia as a menopausal thing? If not… You’re not kidding. Insomnia’s a PITA, because w/ not enough sleep, everything else becomes more difficult. A couple of times I thought maybe it was finally going away, only to have it return the following week. Cathy (who already went to bed an hour ago, drank some nice hot herbal tea, had a purring/soothing cat on her chest, but is still wide awake anyway, & therefore typing away here, instead of sleeping) — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Cathy Friedmann wrote: > but now, after my last period in ‘96, I’ve had insomnia for almost 5 years – > and so feel almost constantly lagging sleep-wise, along with hot flashes (& > sometimes cold flashes) that come in waves, as the main features.
I didn’t realize that you’ve been having insomnia for five years. There was another poster named Cathe who also had that for her main complaint. Perhaps try changing your name? Otherwise, my sympathies. Insomnia is not fun! Cool Runnings, HomemakerJ (provider of Bedtime Stories)
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Hi Sunshine, sunshine wrote: > last week my gp said i am officially in menopause, probably for some time.
Could they mean peri-menopause? Have you gone one whole year with no periods? > idon’t have hot flashes or sweats etc.
Have you taken a peek at the list of 34 symptoms to see what you have or have had? I found it very enlightening the first time I saw it. > disabled for 12 years(6 in bed) with cfs and fibromyalgia.
I’m sorry. Not fun. > so my reaction to the "menopause" thing was shock, denial, terror!
That’s a pretty normal reaction. > i got sick at 36, and just turned 48.
I started peri-menopause at 36, had a "change of life" baby (surprise) and have had various signals of changing ever since. I’m 53 and soon to be post-menopausal, meaning twelve months no period. I feel really good again. > having my birthday, anniversary date of first day of illness, and being told > i am in menopause is making me crazy.
Why? Be more specific so we can help. > i look back at 12 wasted years.
Don’t be so sure that in another five years or so you can’t look back and see those twelve years as something other than wasted. I’ve hollered that I just wanted to take my body off and hang them on a bathroom hook like a pair of longjohns, and I’ve been absolutely convinced that peri-menopause would just go on forever, but both feelings have passed. I had times when peri-menopause sent me to bed, or I felt like nothing would help and I’d go crazy. I used to say that the one thing I resented was that no one told me how much peri-menopause would hurt at times. But, you know what? I’ve re-sorted and prioritized my life differently, out of necessity. I’ve stood up for myself. I’ve had times when there was no one but me to count on because what others suggested just didn’t work. I’ve changed and grown and feel closer to my very essence than I have for many years. On average a woman meets full menopause at 52, so, at 48, you really don’t have long to deal with it. > a friend said, you have 30 or so left what do you want to do with them?
Smart friend! > if i was healthy, i’d say work, holiday, hobbies,etc.
Can you set some small goals that are attainable in regards to these things? > instead, i feel stuck. a triple type a personality, locked in a chronic > fatigue immune dysfuntion body. that means i feel like i have had a bad flu > for 12 years, feel totally exhausted all the time, and am in constant pain.
So, what do you do to pass the time? Do you write? Read? Listen to music? Work on your computer? > i joined this ng, because i wanted to reach out for suppory, education and > hope.
You’ve come to the right place. > but nobody seems to talk about menopause.
Just bring it up anytime you want. Many times appears in print as small talk is, in fact, a whole group of women who are greatful to be sitting at their computers to get their minds off how they feel. > seems like a tight-knit community that talk about anything.
It may seem like a tight-knit community, but it’s always evolving. People who seem like regulars for a few months may fade away, lurk or go elsewhere. Talk any time you like. > i really need some support, and help in not catastrophizing this more than i > already have.
Okay. > i hate my body,even though it’s slim, everything’s going south,
Yes, I remember feeling that way. I had to change my whole style of dressing because clothes that had always looked cute on me before, now made me look like a bag lady. The first thing I did was go ethnic. Now it has evolved into more of a new personal style. > i dyed my hair pink and purple(my inner child not wanting to age).
Wow! Cool! I dyed my hair back to dark brown last spring, thinking that my beautiful silver hair made my face look too pink and didn’t match my eyebrows. Everybody loved the dyed hair except me. I felt like I was impersonating a younger me. My cry was that I wasn’t authentic. Who would have figured? Then I consoled myself by saying that my hair grows fast and by summer’s end if I kept it short, I’d be back to silver again. I still look like a skunk. My hair has grown alot, but I’ve got another three inches of brown to grow out. In my thirties, or even forties, I would have been horrified to walk around with skunk hair and reached again for the dye bottle. But, now I just don’t give a damn. > i feel like i am in my 20’s, but i’m not.
Well, for me, part of peri was realizing that I was going to have to accomodate my aging body somewhat. A few good injuries trying to remain twenty taught me the hard way that I’d better favor myself a little more. I never thought I would give up coffee, but for comfort reasons was forced to. Now it’s an occasional treat and no big sacrifice to be without. I like good food, but my twenty year old self would be appalled with how healthily I eat now. What? No pizza four times a week? > i have only phone friends(also disabled), and apart from home > maker twice a week, there is silence and endless time. help!
Crafts? Writing? Reading for the blind? There must be something you can do that would help you to feel like you are contributing. > i used to be a bubbly, energetic(marathon runner, rn for 20 years,etc) > curious person, that liked to live on the edge.
She’s still in there somewhere. I confess I know next to nothing about either cfs or fibromyalgia. I did have about a year and a half during my peri-menopause when I had crashing fatigue and I also had oh, maybe two years when I ached so badly I didn’t do much but sit at a computer and write out a gardening book. Cool Runnings, HomemakerJ
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last week my gp said i am officially in menopause, probably for some time. idon’t have hot flashes or sweats etc. my iron(hgb was 9), and i have been disabled for 12 years(6 in bed) with cfs and fibromyalgia. so my reaction to the "menopause" thing was shock, denial, terror! i got sick at 36, and just turned 48. having my birthday, anniversary date of first day of illness, and being told i am in menopause is making me crazy. i look back at 12 wasted years. a friend said, you have 30 or so left what do you want to do with them? if i was healthy, i’d say work, holiday, hobbies,etc. instead, i feel stuck. a triple type a personality, locked in a chronic fatigue immune dysfuntion body. that means i feel like i have had a bad flu for 12 years, feel totally exhausted all the time, and am in constant pain. i joined this ng, because i wanted to reach out for suppory, education and hope. but nobody seems to talk about menopause. seems like a tight-knit community that talk about anything. i really need some support, and help in not catastrophizing this more than i already have. i hate my body,even though it’s slim, everything’s going south, i dyed my hair pink and purple(my inner child not wanting to age). i feel like i am in my 20’s, but i’m not. i have only phone friends(also disabled), and apart from home maker twice a week, there is silence and endless time. help! sunshine ps i used to be a bubbly, energetic(marathon runner, rn for 20 years,etc) curious person, that liked to live on the edge. "HomemakerJ" <homemak…@home.com> wrote in message
news:3BFBFE4E.943B01FE@home.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > In article <3bfb017…@news.comindico.com.au>, > > Maureen <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote: > > >This year has been a wonderful one. I’m like I used to be in my 20’s, and I > > >could never have imaged, at the time of going through menopause, that I > > >would emerge with all the enthusiasm of my youth. > That has been exactly my experience! Isn’t it a nice surprise to revisit the > 20’s again? > > Naturally, not every day > > >goes smoothly, but life, on the whole, is exhilarating and I can’t get > > >enough of it. I’m now ‘exploring’ all there is out there and in me. I feel > > >calm and confident. Yes, I’ve emerged stronger and wiser. > Yes. > Cool Runnings, > HomemakerJ
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> In article <3bfb017…@news.comindico.com.au>, > Maureen <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote: > >This year has been a wonderful one. I’m like I used to be in my 20’s, and I > >could never have imaged, at the time of going through menopause, that I > >would emerge with all the enthusiasm of my youth.
That has been exactly my experience! Isn’t it a nice surprise to revisit the 20’s again? > Naturally, not every day > >goes smoothly, but life, on the whole, is exhilarating and I can’t get > >enough of it. I’m now ‘exploring’ all there is out there and in me. I feel > >calm and confident. Yes, I’ve emerged stronger and wiser.
Yes. Cool Runnings, HomemakerJ
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"Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
news:C0RK7.3902$tT4.193295@typhoon.austin.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > news:9tglph$2flq9$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > > news:ozQK7.3605$tT4.190936@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > >> news:9tgjv2$2hs8v$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > >> > news:f%PK7.4840$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in news:9tghup$2ferf$1@ID- > >> >> 74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> >> > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > >> >> > news:ZEPK7.4721$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> >> >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > >> >> >> news:9tfrpg$2a239$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> >> >> >> Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join > >> >> >> >> you on the other side….*some* time before the age of > >> >> >> >> 90….. > >> >> >> >> Eva> > >> >> >> > Same here, seems to go on and on and on and on …….. > >> >> >> > Val > >> >> >> Have you passed the 12 year mark yet? > >> >> >> Karen > >> >> > Just! Val > >> >> > http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html > >> >> Then you and I are in a race for the finish!:) > >> >> My "period", despite the cramps and nausea and fog, has turned out > >> >> to be spotting only. > >> >> So far. > >> >> Karen > >> > Bet you get there before I do. TG I don’t have spotting or periods > >> > since my hysterectomy year ago. > >> How old are you? I’m only 50, and I’ve been having my period for 40 > >> years now. My doctor told me that women that start early tend to > >> finish late, but of course that’s only a tendency. > >> Karen > > Early 60’s > Aieeeeeeeeeeeee! > Now I remember. I think I repressed this information. > Karen>
You sound shocked !! My mother had hot flushes for over 15 years – seems like I’m following in her footsteps grrrrrh! Val
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Hello all you lovely ladies, I used to frequent this ng a few years back and got lots of support, and it’s my turn to give you all the knowledge that you DO come through this thing! I never took HRT replacement. I have osteoporosis, and this could be hereditary or caused through smoking and drinking. This year has been a wonderful one. I’m like I used to be in my 20’s, and I could never have imaged, at the time of going through menopause, that I would emerge with all the enthusiasm of my youth. Naturally, not every day goes smoothly, but life, on the whole, is exhilarating and I can’t get enough of it. I’m now ‘exploring’ all there is out there and in me. I feel calm and confident. Yes, I’ve emerged stronger and wiser. Menopause for me was hard and I had lots of lessons to learn. All I can say now is that it was worth it. Hang in there girls because there IS light and life at the end of the tunnel. Bless you all, maureen
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Yeah, me, too. Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon Eva <EvaDStru…@NOatt.net> wrote in message
news:VQEK7.197608$W8.7427473@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Maureen" <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote in message > news:3bfb0175$1@news.comindico.com.au… > > Menopause for me was hard and I had lots of lessons to learn. All I can > say > > now is that it was worth it. Hang in there girls because there IS light > and > > life at the end of the tunnel. > —————- > Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join you on the other > side….*some* time before the age of 90….. > Eva
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Maureen <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote: > Hang in there girls because there IS light and > life at the end of the tunnel.
That’s what I want, Real Soon Now. And no, I don’t want the demo version–it’s the full package for me. Please? Pretty please with a bow on it? ________________________________________________________________________ Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com) If you want a reply by e-mail, don’t write to my Yahoo address!
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In article <3bfb017…@news.comindico.com.au>, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Maureen <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote: >Hello all you lovely ladies, I used to frequent this ng a few years back >and got lots of support, and it’s my turn to give you all the knowledge that >you DO come through this thing! I never took HRT replacement. I have >osteoporosis, and this could be hereditary or caused through smoking and >drinking. >This year has been a wonderful one. I’m like I used to be in my 20’s, and I >could never have imaged, at the time of going through menopause, that I >would emerge with all the enthusiasm of my youth. Naturally, not every day >goes smoothly, but life, on the whole, is exhilarating and I can’t get >enough of it. I’m now ‘exploring’ all there is out there and in me. I feel >calm and confident. Yes, I’ve emerged stronger and wiser. >Menopause for me was hard and I had lots of lessons to learn. All I can say >now is that it was worth it. Hang in there girls because there IS light and >life at the end of the tunnel.
What a terrific message, Maureen – thank you so much. It’s great that you’re doing so well! I hope I can come back here and give the same kind of encouragement "from the other side" someday. Um, sooner, rather than later, please … (-: –Pat Kight kig…@peak.org
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"Maureen" <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3bfb0175$1@news.comindico.com.au… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all you lovely ladies, I used to frequent this ng a few years back > and got lots of support, and it’s my turn to give you all the knowledge that > you DO come through this thing! I never took HRT replacement. I have > osteoporosis, and this could be hereditary or caused through smoking and > drinking.> > This year has been a wonderful one. I’m like I used to be in my 20’s, and I > could never have imaged, at the time of going through menopause, that I > would emerge with all the enthusiasm of my youth. Naturally, not every day > goes smoothly, but life, on the whole, is exhilarating and I can’t get > enough of it. I’m now ‘exploring’ all there is out there and in me. I feel > calm and confident. Yes, I’ve emerged stronger and wiser. > Menopause for me was hard and I had lots of lessons to learn. All I can say > now is that it was worth it. Hang in there girls because there IS light and > life at the end of the tunnel. > Bless you all, maureen>
May I ask how long it took to get where you are Maureen. Did you have bad hot flushes? Val — http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html
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"Eva" <EvaDStru…@NOatt.net> wrote in message
news:VQEK7.197608$W8.7427473@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > "Maureen" <maur…@dodo.com.au> wrote in message > news:3bfb0175$1@news.comindico.com.au… > > Menopause for me was hard and I had lots of lessons to learn. All I can > say > > now is that it was worth it. Hang in there girls because there IS light > and > > life at the end of the tunnel. > —————- > Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join you on the other > side….*some* time before the age of 90….. > Eva>
Same here, seems to go on and on and on and on …….. Val — http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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"Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
news:ZEPK7.4721$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > news:9tfrpg$2a239$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join you on the > >> other side….*some* time before the age of 90….. > >> Eva> > > Same here, seems to go on and on and on and on …….. > > Val > Have you passed the 12 year mark yet? > Karen
Just! Val http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html
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hope it stays that way…sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Karen Kay wrote: > "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in news:9tghup$2ferf$1@ID- > 74353.news.dfncis.de: > > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > > news:ZEPK7.4721$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > >> news:9tfrpg$2a239$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> >> Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join you on the > >> >> other side….*some* time before the age of 90….. > >> >> Eva> > >> > Same here, seems to go on and on and on and on …….. > >> > Val > >> Have you passed the 12 year mark yet? > >> Karen > > Just! Val > > http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html > Then you and I are in a race for the finish!:) > My "period", despite the cramps and nausea and fog, has turned out to be > spotting only. > So far. > Karen
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"Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
news:f%PK7.4840$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in news:9tghup$2ferf$1@ID- > 74353.news.dfncis.de: > > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > > news:ZEPK7.4721$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > >> news:9tfrpg$2a239$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> >> Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join you on the > >> >> other side….*some* time before the age of 90….. > >> >> Eva> > >> > Same here, seems to go on and on and on and on …….. > >> > Val > >> Have you passed the 12 year mark yet? > >> Karen > > Just! Val > > http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html > Then you and I are in a race for the finish!:) > My "period", despite the cramps and nausea and fog, has turned out to be > spotting only. > So far. > Karen
Bet you get there before I do. TG I don’t have spotting or periods since my hysterectomy year ago. Val — http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html
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"Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message
news:ozQK7.3605$tT4.190936@typhoon.austin.rr.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > news:9tgjv2$2hs8v$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > > news:f%PK7.4840$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in news:9tghup$2ferf$1@ID- > >> 74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> > "Karen Kay" <ka…@wordwrite.com> wrote in message > >> > news:ZEPK7.4721$sq2.156536@typhoon.austin.rr.com… > >> >> "Aries" <nuval…@btinternet.com> wrote in > >> >> news:9tfrpg$2a239$1@ID-74353.news.dfncis.de: > >> >> >> Thank you for the encouragement, Maureen. I hope to join you > >> >> >> on the other side….*some* time before the age of 90….. > >> >> >> Eva> > >> >> > Same here, seems to go on and on and on and on …….. > >> >> > Val > >> >> Have you passed the 12 year mark yet? > >> >> Karen > >> > Just! Val > >> > http://www.geocities.com/valspoetry/index.html > >> Then you and I are in a race for the finish!:) > >> My "period", despite the cramps and nausea and fog, has turned out to > >> be spotting only. > >> So far. > >> Karen > > Bet you get there before I do. TG I don’t have spotting or periods > > since my hysterectomy year ago. > How old are you? I’m only 50, and I’ve been having my period for 40 years > now. My doctor told me that women that start early tend to finish late, but > of course that’s only a tendency. > Karen
Early 60’s Val
