What's the deal with ephedrine
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Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc.
This is the original post that I answered and now someone has rather nastily implied that I made a mistake by implying that ephedrine is epinephrine. I think of them as a class of medications called sympathomimetics because they basically do the same thing to varyng degrees. I will now quote the definitive textbook "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics’ by Goodman and Gilman to support my position. Under topic Ephedrine subtopic Toxic Reactions: " These are similar to the untoward reactions observed afther epinephrine with additionl reactions referable to the CNS effects of ephedrine. Insomnia is common with continued medication but is readily conteracted by barbituates. Precautions in the use of ephedrine are similar to those outline for epinephrine and the amphetamines." You know this is a support group. All I did was answer a question (with the same answer a cardiologist gave me) and you have insulted me. The next time someone asks a question about medications you answer it? I’m through Empress L Life is what happens while you are making other plans
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dear empress, sorry about the slap in the face you received empress, it is pretty common in here! thanks for the reference, but it will more than likely be ignored! best of everything to you! rosie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc. This is the original post that I answered and now someone has rather nastily implied that I made a mistake by implying that ephedrine is epinephrine. I think of them as a class of medications called sympathomimetics because they basically do the same thing to varyng degrees. I will now quote the definitive textbook "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics’ by Goodman and Gilman to support my position. Under topic Ephedrine subtopic Toxic Reactions: " These are similar to the untoward reactions observed afther epinephrine with additionl reactions referable to the CNS effects of ephedrine. Insomnia is common with continued medication but is readily conteracted by barbituates. Precautions in the use of ephedrine are similar to those outline for epinephrine and the amphetamines." You know this is a support group. All I did was answer a question (with the same answer a cardiologist gave me) and you have insulted me. The next time someone asks a question about medications you answer it? I’m through Empress L Life is what happens while you are making other plans
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I am not putting anyone down. A question was asked about the safety of ephedrine and I simply replied that there is a definite risk involved and pulled one death out of my memory.
I would expect my pharmacist not to cite a death from epinephrine as an example of death from ephedrine. I would hate to think you filled prescriptions for Indocin with Anacin and Xanax with Zantac. — "There’s a seeker born every minute."
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Also schrieb Empress L: There is no such thing as a 100% completely safe drug. There are side effects possible from anything as many of you stated. When a medicine is prescribed for you by your doctor he has to weigh the potential benefits to the possible risks. If the benefits outweigh the risks then the decision to prescribe it is logical. By playing devil’s advocate to you I am just reminding you of the risks involved. You yourself have to decide if the benefits derived from the ECA stack out weigh the possible risks.
I had a long discussion about this with my doctor. He’s cautiously optimistic about the stack, very upbeat on Atkins. Unfortunately, we weighed upsides and downsides of my BP versus the stacking and he reluctantly made me see that the downside of the spike in BP far outweighs, so to speak, the thermogenic effect of the stack. However, I did make him promise that if this med that I’m on manages the BP okay, that he lets me re-start stacking to see if there’s a spike again. He said okay, but only if I was religious, so to speak, about getting my BP checked. I think I can live with this doctor. — Stack FAQ at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/4999/stackfaq.htm 339/309/wherever WARNING: Email replies/followups may be posted to Usenet at my discretion. The mome rath isn’t born that could outgrabe me.
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okay guys please calm down. I am a pharmacist and I have to think about drug problems all day… that is my job. The official stance of the medical communty is to be on the cautious side with ephedrine. Your point about penicillin is well made. We always ask people if they have had penicillin before we fill it for them in order to determine if they have had problems with the drug. Doctors should do that too before they write it but sometimes they forget. If we don’t ask the right questions and recommend a product which hurts them we can be sued. Therefore my personal stance is correct for a pharmacist. By the way as I am writing this I am on-line with a friend of mine who is a cardiologist in Kansas. I posed the question of the safety of ephedrine to him and he also reminded me of the Taylor model and said that ephedrine can be dangerous. She did not die of a drug overdose by the way. She just had a bad reaction to the drug. The problem is we never know when someone is going to react like that so for the sake of safety many pharmacists will not recommend ephedrine, There is no such thing as a 100% completely safe drug. There are side effects possible from anything as many of you stated. When a medicine is prescribed for you by your doctor he has to weigh the potential benefits to the possible risks. If the benefits outweigh the risks then the decision to prescribe it is logical. By playing devil’s advocate to you I am just reminding you of the risks involved. You yourself have to decide if the benefits derived from the ECA stack out weigh the possible risks. I am not putting anyone down. A question was asked about the safety of ephedrine and I simply replied that there is a definite risk involved and pulled one death out of my memory. If you want I will do a medline search and see if I can find anythng published on ephedrine. Since ECA is not an approved FDA drug combination problems with it are not likely to be reported to the FDA for statistical analysis so it may be hard to find a case in the archives. Empress L Life is what happens while you are making other plans
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Another point is that penicillin has caused many deaths from people who’s metabolism is allergic to it. (I am one of those and had it not been an injection in a docs office that was my first dose as a child, I would be one of those statistics too. So should I be saying because it almost killed me and killed others (many more then just one) is a reason why NO ONE should use the drug? A lot of things are all in perception. As I said, there are many ways to advise caution that will be a lot better received then c blanket threats of death. — claudia 550/386/157 A malcontent and proud of it! Low fat rocks! For Claudia’s Cooking Newsletter celebrating low fat, sugar free cooking and living visit http://cookingnewsletter.ecorp.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"there was a case in the news a few years back where Nikii Taylor’s (she’s a model) younger sister ( I don’t remember her name but she was also a model) died after self administering an non- prescripition drug for asthma (Primitine mist), an inhaled form of ephedirine. She had no previous history of heart problems. It was ruled an accidental death due to irregular coronary (heart) function caused by the drup. That is why even people who do not have heart and blood pressure problems should not use drug." L, Don’t you think that you’re being a little overly sensitive here. Yes, everyone’s individual chemistry will react to different meds uniquely, but to put out a blanket statement that because some model died a few years ago on an inhaler constitutes all to stay away from ephedrine in what-ever form is too much. Sure, she had no history of heart problems, but how old was she? Did her doc ever give her a complete cardio work up? Does everyone at such a young age have medical diagnosis that cleat them of any heart irregularities? I have an employee, a kid of only 25, come into work one day with the sniffles. He’s very slim, does a lot of outdoors type stuff with his young bride, and just bought a home and is a new father. Wouldn’t expect much there except some new found stress (sorry mothers…), so he thought he’d try a sudafed tab to help the runny nose. Within an hour he felt like his heart was pumping and he had the tell tale sign of tingles in the roots of his scalp. I told him to go home or even to the hospital but he elected to wait it out, which in an hour he was fine. I explained the effects of the pseudo-ephedrine and he decided to stay away from it. Me, I have been taking the stuff for years, along with Nyquil, primatine tabs, and other allergy meds with NO side effects. And the Nyquil has substantially much more ephe in it than does my stack. YMMV! This applies to everyone. While you are correct to warn the uninformed of any dangerous side-effect, you should not make a blanket statement to all. Just because a person dies in a car wreck because they decide to exercise bad judgment and cause their own death does not mean I should not drive a car. I guess it is kind of like the old saying the NRA keeps using (I hope I don’t open a can of worms with this one), but "guns don’t kill people, people do". We are all responsible for our own actions, not the med companies. — Kevin
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There is are only 2 little problems with your reasoning on why ephedrine is not readily available. It is the not the DEA and the FDA. These are federal agencies and there is no federal mandate against OTC ephedrine compounds I can buy it easily in all the pharmacies here. Secondly, psuedophedrine can not be made into meth amphetamine. That is the whole purpose behind psuedoehedrine it is chemically altered to prevent it from being used in meth labs. Also, inhaled meds go directly to the brain, bypassing the normal digestive process. This makes inhaled meds much more dangerous if misused, then those taken orally. No one ever is told to use inhaled ephedrine to lose weight. I understand your concern, but if you read the threads about ephedrine you will find that people always suggest caution and checking with the doc. They also advise reading and following the warning labels and using only the recommended dossage. No on is ever advised to just dive right in willy nilly to using the stack however, when ever and how much they want to. This part is not directed at you empress, but at some others who have said that stacking means death. Warnings can be said in many ways. Telling someone they are going to die may not be the best method of communicating when something is not harmful if taken as directed. One would never say Don’t give your child aspirin because it can kill them. Instead, it works far better to say, be cautious because if your child has rey’s syndrome it can be deadly. claudia 550/386/157 A malcontent and proud of it! Low fat rocks! For Claudia’s Cooking Newsletter celebrating low fat, sugar free cooking and living visit http://cookingnewsletter.ecorp.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :The reason BTW, that you have difficulty in obtaining ephedrine in your local :pharmacys is because it is easily converted to methamphetamine in a home lab:and the FDA and the DEA are limiting its distribution to pharmacies. I am very familiar with this fact and the fact that there are several other ingredients in meth that are already regulated so much that it is difficult for the average schmuck who wants to cook his first batch of meth up to find the ingredients, whether ephedrine was limited or not. It is also easy to get high from gasoline but no one is working to limit is availability. As I stated before I don’t believe that the irresponsible use by a few teenagers of some substances should limit my access to them. And if druggies want to get their hands on this stuff they are not concerned with little things like LAWS. The DEA and the FDA know this yet continue to put on this fake "We are doing something about the drug problem" show by limiting this med from law abiding citizens. It is just screwy politics. As you :may know, the health food stores are not currently regulated by these agencies:and that is why you can get it there. You can get MaHuang there, certainly. And I for one am glad that the politically motivated tyrants at the FDA don’t regulate these stores (although these stores are regulated to a certain degree.) : :I would try stack if I could but I am allergic to aspirin and I have high blood :pressure due to an increased heart rate and ephedrine would make it worse. : :Empress L Then you shouldn’t Stack, as you have stated. I on the other hand have no such problems and I am really POd that TPTB are trying to make it look like they are doing something about the drug problem by limiting this innocuous medication. K in Cali
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"there was a case in the news a few years back where Nikii Taylor’s (she’s a model) younger sister ( I don’t remember her name but she was also a model) died after self administering an non- prescripition drug for asthma (Primitine mist), an inhaled form of ephedirine. She had no previous history of heart problems. It was ruled an accidental death due to irregular coronary (heart) function caused by the drup. That is why even people who do not have heart and blood pressure problems should not use drug." L, Don’t you think that you’re being a little overly sensitive here. Yes, everyone’s individual chemistry will react to different meds uniquely, but to put out a blanket statement that because some model died a few years ago on an inhaler constitutes all to stay away from ephedrine in what-ever form is too much. Sure, she had no history of heart problems, but how old was she? Did her doc ever give her a complete cardio work up? Does everyone at such a young age have medical diagnosis that cleat them of any heart irregularities? I have an employee, a kid of only 25, come into work one day with the sniffles. He’s very slim, does a lot of outdoors type stuff with his young bride, and just bought a home and is a new father. Wouldn’t expect much there except some new found stress (sorry mothers…), so he thought he’d try a sudafed tab to help the runny nose. Within an hour he felt like his heart was pumping and he had the tell tale sign of tingles in the roots of his scalp. I told him to go home or even to the hospital but he elected to wait it out, which in an hour he was fine. I explained the effects of the pseudo-ephedrine and he decided to stay away from it. Me, I have been taking the stuff for years, along with Nyquil, primatine tabs, and other allergy meds with NO side effects. And the Nyquil has substantially much more ephe in it than does my stack. YMMV! This applies to everyone. While you are correct to warn the uninformed of any dangerous side-effect, you should not make a blanket statement to all. Just because a person dies in a car wreck because they decide to exercise bad judgment and cause their own death does not mean I should not drive a car. I guess it is kind of like the old saying the NRA keeps using (I hope I don’t open a can of worms with this one), but "guns don’t kill people, people do". We are all responsible for our own actions, not the med companies. — Kevin
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:I did not mean to imply that at you stackers are facing death… simply "let :the buyer beware".. the choice is yours. What choice would that be? I am not taking my life into my hands when I Stack, as the statement above seems to be saying, although I don’t think you meant it that way. Did you? :. Ephedrine, epinephrine, pseudoephedrine, amphetamine, etc are all chemically :related and do the same things in differing degrees to you cardiovascular :system. It doesn’t matter if you inhale it, swallow it, or inject it… just :the amount absorbed in your blood stream varies by the route you pick. Bronkaid doesn’t do for me what crystal did. I would hazard a guess that this is universal. :The reason BTW, that you have difficulty in obtaining ephedrine in your local :pharmacys is because it is easily converted to methamphetamine in a home lab:and the FDA and the DEA are limiting its distribution to pharmacies. I am very familiar with this fact and the fact that there are several other ingredients in meth that are already regulated so much that it is difficult for the average schmuck who wants to cook his first batch of meth up to find the ingredients, whether ephedrine was limited or not. It is also easy to get high from gasoline but no one is working to limit is availability. As I stated before I don’t believe that the irresponsible use by a few teenagers of some substances should limit my access to them. And if druggies want to get their hands on this stuff they are not concerned with little things like LAWS. The DEA and the FDA know this yet continue to put on this fake "We are doing something about the drug problem" show by limiting this med from law abiding citizens. It is just screwy politics. As you :may know, the health food stores are not currently regulated by these agencies:and that is why you can get it there. You can get MaHuang there, certainly. And I for one am glad that the politically motivated tyrants at the FDA don’t regulate these stores (although these stores are regulated to a certain degree.) : :I would try stack if I could but I am allergic to aspirin and I have high blood :pressure due to an increased heart rate and ephedrine would make it worse. : :Empress L Then you shouldn’t Stack, as you have stated. I on the other hand have no such problems and I am really POd that TPTB are trying to make it look like they are doing something about the drug problem by limiting this innocuous medication. K in Cali
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I did not mean to imply that at you stackers are facing death… simply "let the buyer beware".. the choice is yours . Ephedrine, epinephrine, pseudoephedrine, amphetamine, etc are all chemically related and do the same things in differing degrees to you cardiovascular system. It doesn’t matter if you inhale it, swallow it, or inject it… just the amount absorbed in your blood stream varies by the route you pick. The reason BTW, that you have difficulty in obtaining ephedrine in your local pharmacys is because it is easily converted to methamphetamine in a home lab and the FDA and the DEA are limiting its distribution to pharmacies. As you may know, the health food stores are not currently regulated by these agencies and that is why you can get it there. I would try stack if I could but I am allergic to aspirin and I have high blood pressure due to an increased heart rate and ephedrine would make it worse. Empress L Life is what happens while you are making other plans
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She’s talking about an inhaler Claudia. Nikki Taylor’s sister had asthma and died. Maybe if she’d taken some caffeine and aspirin with it she would be alive today, who is to know? To Emress L and others: One TEENAGER dying from possible misuse of a drug is not going to stop me from using meds that correct a metabolic disorder I have, ie obesity. I don’t let teenagers tell me how to drive or how to budget my resources or how to raise my children so why should I let the example of teenagers govern what meds I take? Ridiculous if you ask me, but that is just my opinion. And as Claudia pointed out in another post lotsa things can kill it is responsible use that matters. Teenagers die in car accidents should we all stop using cars? NO, because it is not the vehicle that kills necessarily it is the irresponsible action of the driver that kills. Same thing applies with the use of meds. K in Cali
:Empress, the ECA stack is not inhaled. It makes a big difference, BTW, :could you give the cite of the info you reference? : :– :claudia : :550/386/157 A malcontent and proud of it! Low fat rocks! :For Claudia’s Cooking Newsletter celebrating low fat, sugar free cooking and :living :visit http://cookingnewsletter.ecorp.net :
:there was a case in the news a few years back where Nikii Taylor’s (she’s a :model) younger sister ( I don’t remember her name but she was also a model) :died after self administering an non- prescripition drug for asthma 
Primitine :mist), an inhaled form of ephedirine. She had no previous history of heart :problems. It was ruled an accidental death due to irregular coronary heart) :function caused by the drup. That is why even people who do not have heart :and :blood pressure problems should not use drug. : :Empress L : :Life is what happens while you are making other plans : :
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Empress, the ECA stack is not inhaled. It makes a big difference, BTW, could you give the cite of the info you reference? — claudia 550/386/157 A malcontent and proud of it! Low fat rocks! For Claudia’s Cooking Newsletter celebrating low fat, sugar free cooking and living visit http://cookingnewsletter.ecorp.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -there was a case in the news a few years back where Nikii Taylor’s (she’s a model) younger sister ( I don’t remember her name but she was also a model) died after self administering an non- prescripition drug for asthma (Primitine mist), an inhaled form of ephedirine. She had no previous history of heart problems. It was ruled an accidental death due to irregular coronary (heart) function caused by the drup. That is why even people who do not have heart and blood pressure problems should not use drug. Empress L Life is what happens while you are making other plans
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there was a case in the news a few years back where Nikii Taylor’s (she’s a model) younger sister ( I don’t remember her name but she was also a model) died after self administering an non- prescripition drug for asthma (Primitine mist), an inhaled form of ephedirine.
Primatene mist contains epinephrine, not ephedrine. — "There’s a seeker born every minute."
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Meerkat, anything can kill you if abused, even water. No one should go on the stack with out a doc’s consult, and they should follow the warnings about hypertension, diabetes etc. But there has never been one single death from people using ephedrine as it should be used in the recommended dosage. I do not stack because I am diabetic, at one point my doc and I decided to try it, but I just didn’t like how it made me feel. You can never fairly say that because someone can be harmed if a med is abused, that it makes the med bad for anybody. Hell, they have even found a positive use for botulism, the deadly food poison. It can relax wrinkles when injected in to the skin. Does the fact that if you ate it you would die, mean it should;t be used for other purposes where it is not deadly? If you drink too much water, you will die. Granted, you would need to consume a heck of a lot of it, but there are recorded deaths from an over consumption of water. Does that mean that no one should drink any water? If you take too much ibuprofen you destroy your liver or kidneys (can’t remember which off hand). It is something that happens a lot with older people who either forget what they have taken or think that if some is good, more is better. Does that mean that no one should take ibuprofen? Aspirin can kill you, especially if given to children with certain diseases like rey’s syndrome. Des that mean that no one should ever take aspirin. OTC antihistamines can kill you if abused. Does that mean that no one should take contact, Dristan, Nyquil or any of the other hundreds of OTC cold remedies? The reality is that almost everything you could ingest can kill you if not taken the recommend way and in the recommended dosage. However, that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t ever eat anything or take any meds. It just means that we need to exercise caution, follow recommended dosages, read and obey warning labels and use the common sense God gave us! I personally think the world would be a lot worse of a place if I couldn’t take an aspirin, or anti-acid, or cold med. And if I couldn’t ever eat anything, I would be dead! There is an entire issue of the New England Journal of Medicine dedicated to the use of the eca stack as a weight loss tool and this prestigious premiere medical journal actually had lots of good positive things to say about it. No where did it say no one should take it because there is the potential for death if you abuse it! I prefer to believe main line medicine and science when it comes to things like taking meds etc, unless I can find true research that shows otherwise. There is none for the ECA stack because it is perfectly safe when used as directed. claudia 550/386/157 A malcontent and proud of it! Low fat rocks! For Claudia’s Cooking Newsletter celebrating low fat, sugar free cooking and living visit http://cookingnewsletter.ecorp.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -can cause cardiac arrest, sudden hypertension, and death. Ma Huang is natural ephedrine. It can kill you: you will lose weight, but you won’t care. Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc. I don’t want to hear stories of what anybody’s heard, I’d like some TRUE facts. Someone indicated that ephedrine is in breathers and broncaid a medicine for asthmatics. Others have said it can cause high blood pressure in SOME people. Does anybody really know?
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there was a case in the news a few years back where Nikii Taylor’s (she’s a model) younger sister ( I don’t remember her name but she was also a model) died after self administering an non- prescripition drug for asthma (Primitine mist), an inhaled form of ephedirine. She had no previous history of heart problems. It was ruled an accidental death due to irregular coronary (heart) function caused by the drup. That is why even people who do not have heart and blood pressure problems should not use drug. Empress L Life is what happens while you are making other plans
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to the giant emperor penguin, who stood awaiting an answer, (READ AND POST) said: : yours in not a popular attitude in this newsgroup! : but you are correct! : rosie
: can cause cardiac arrest, sudden hypertension, and death. Ma Huang is : natural ephedrine. It can kill you: you will lose weight, but you won’t : care. that’s why we always see those asthmatics dropping like flies right in front of us. seriously, of course ephedrine can kill you. some people, especially those with high blood pressure already, should -not- take it. and anyone who starts taking it should monitor themselves carefully, as with any new thing you take into the body. it’s also true that vitamin A can kill you, if you overdose. as can most anything, really. but people who consult their doctor first, try using ephedrine -as directed-, and watch for symptoms, should be fine. As my doctor confirmed. although the stack didn’t seem to do much for me. It did curb my hunger mildly, but didn’t seem to affect my weight loss. I may try it again now that I’m not running 6+ hours a week. :) cindy size12/size8/size6
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yours in not a popular attitude in this newsgroup! but you are correct! rosie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – can cause cardiac arrest, sudden hypertension, and death. Ma Huang is natural ephedrine. It can kill you: you will lose weight, but you won’t care. Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc. I don’t want to hear stories of what anybody’s heard, I’d like some TRUE facts. Someone indicated that ephedrine is in breathers and broncaid a medicine for asthmatics. Others have said it can cause high blood pressure in SOME people. Does anybody really know?
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Also schrieb meerkat: can cause cardiac arrest, sudden hypertension, and death. Ma Huang is natural ephedrine. It can kill you: you will lose weight, but you won’t care.
Oh, GMAB. If you abuse almost any substance there’s the potential for death. I defy you to give me one cite for a death of a single person who’s using a normal dosage of ephedrine. Walking across the street can kill you. You’ll be fitter, but you won’t care. sheesh Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc. I don’t want to hear stories of what anybody’s heard, I’d like some TRUE facts. Someone indicated that ephedrine is in breathers and broncaid a medicine for asthmatics. Others have said it can cause high blood pressure in SOME people. Does anybody really know?
– Stack FAQ at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/4999/stackfaq.htm 339/309/wherever Death called while you were out, so I gave him your pager number.
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can cause cardiac arrest, sudden hypertension, and death. Ma Huang is natural ephedrine. It can kill you: you will lose weight, but you won’t care.
Just like exercise. J — I used to say, "Don’t trust anyone over 30.", now it’s "Life begins at 40."
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can cause cardiac arrest, sudden hypertension, and death. Ma Huang is natural ephedrine. It can kill you: you will lose weight, but you won’t care. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc. I don’t want to hear stories of what anybody’s heard, I’d like some TRUE facts. Someone indicated that ephedrine is in breathers and broncaid a medicine for asthmatics. Others have said it can cause high blood pressure in SOME people. Does anybody really know?
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you are correct, and as far as i am concerned, consultation with your health professional should take place BEFORE starting MaHuang or Ephedrine. READ AND POST, EVERYDAY! ROSIE Low carb? Low calorie? Low fat? Low glycemic? 50yr/female/5′10"/wearing size 14 jeans! I am learning HOW to eat, WHAT to eat, and WHY I eat! EATING IS NOT AN EVENT ! http://www.winternet.com/~terrym/sobriety.html ATKINS-BERSTEIN-HELLER-GITTLEMAN-DESMAISONS-EADES-ARNOT STEWARD-BETHEA-ANDREWS-BARART-EZRIN-KOWALSKI – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – MaHuang and Ephedrine are not safe for people who have biochemical anxiety/panic disorders. remove dontspam
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MaHuang and Ephedrine are not safe for people who have biochemical anxiety/panic disorders. remove dontspam
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Could someone tell me the harmful effects of ephedrine. I want actual facts of people who have died or whatever harmful effects it causes…Medical journals, books, Etc. I don’t want to hear stories of what anybody’s heard, I’d like some TRUE facts. Someone indicated that ephedrine is in breathers and broncaid a medicine for asthmatics. Others have said it can cause high blood pressure in SOME people. Does anybody really know?
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The FDA has a web site that you can look up some facts for yourself. I personally have used Ma Huang but had to stop because I was diagnosed with a heart condition. The condition was there all along it WAS NOT caused by using the herb. IMHO and that of my cardiologist Ma Huang is safe for the majority of the population. However, it is not reccommended for those with heart problems, BP problems, pregnant or nursing mothers . Dayna 175/140/135
