Old poll (mask preference) and New poll (modafinil use)
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"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <.net> wrote in message .com… > On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:23:26 GMT, "Tiger Lily".net> wrote: > >great…… treat the symptom, not the underlying chemical imbalance > that > >causes the depression in the first place……… what a putz this Dr > >is……. sigh > >k > Not at all uncommon, unfortunately, Tiger. But many people with sleep > disorders (especially apnea and narcolepsy) were "diagnosed" as > suffering from depression for many years prior to a true diagnosis.
yeah…….. i have often wondered if i would have ever got the "depression" if i had been treated for the sleep apnea…….. in hindsight, i have had sleep apnea since my early 20’s…………then pregnancy made it worse (don’t know why, but pregnant women REALLY snore)…… then having a baby and not even getting the little bit of sleep that i had been getting……….. it all adds up i honestly believe that 99% of my depression is really sleep apnea related…… unfortunately, it hasn’t gone away after 18 months of treatment with CPAP…….. i just don’t know/understand…….. sigh i WANT MY LIFE BACK ! ! ! ………. it was ripped away from my bare hands, and i really want my life back! k
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NormC <no…@socal.rr.com> wrote: >> Not at all uncommon, unfortunately, Tiger. But many people with sleep >> disorders (especially apnea and narcolepsy) were "diagnosed" as >> suffering from depression for many years prior to a true diagnosis. >Forgive me, but IMHO, the __diagnosis__ was correct, but a determination of >the cause was totally lacking. It is a neurological problem, resulting from >lack of quality sleep, that presents as (was symptomatic of) a psychiatric >illness. (A description put forth by a neuropsychologist, who discovered >that I needed more than marriage counselling. <GGG>)
Exactly, there was no doubt that I was severely depressed, but the medications only took care of the worst of it. CPAP made the medications unnecessary, my PCP was surprised to learn that there was a link between OSA and depression. 
Tom
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"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" wrote: > On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:23:26 GMT, "Tiger Lily" > <kl…@nospamteluspla.net> wrote: > >great…… treat the symptom, not the underlying chemical imbalance > that > >causes the depression in the first place……… what a putz this Dr > >is……. sigh > >k > Not at all uncommon, unfortunately, Tiger. But many people with sleep > disorders (especially apnea and narcolepsy) were "diagnosed" as > suffering from depression for many years prior to a true diagnosis.
Forgive me, but IMHO, the __diagnosis__ was correct, but a determination of the cause was totally lacking. It is a neurological problem, resulting from lack of quality sleep, that presents as (was symptomatic of) a psychiatric illness. (A description put forth by a neuropsychologist, who discovered that I needed more than marriage counselling. <GGG>) Pretty much the same as what you said…. just stated a little more broadly.
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:23:26 GMT, "Tiger Lily" <kl…@nospamteluspla.net> wrote: >great…… treat the symptom, not the underlying chemical imbalance that >causes the depression in the first place……… what a putz this Dr >is……. sigh >k
Not at all uncommon, unfortunately, Tiger. But many people with sleep disorders (especially apnea and narcolepsy) were "diagnosed" as suffering from depression for many years prior to a true diagnosis. -dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Dave Jackson * http://www.AwakeInPhilly.org * Phila., PA. + ~~eFax: 253-423-7208~~ * mailto:usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net | Remove the mythical creature from my email address to reply | Some make it happen, some watch it happen, | and some say, "What happened?" – Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <.net> wrote in message .com… > I was contacted last week by someone who was given a prescription for > Provigil. The person was telling their family doctor they don’t feel > energetic and that sleep has become a major life activity. The doctor > said, "you’re depressed" while handing the person the prescription for > Provigil. Nothing else. Because of recent news stories, the person > knew that Provigil was used "for keeping people awake," but wanted to > know if it was 1) safe for someone who was "diagnosed as being > depressed," and 2) safe, overall.
great…… treat the symptom, not the underlying chemical imbalance that causes the depression in the first place……… what a putz this Dr is……. sigh k
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:14:17 GMT, NormC <no…@socal.rr.com> wrote: >So? >What did you tell him?
Told the person to seek out a consultation with a psychiatrist, but also to take the Epworth Sleepiness Scale (http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/CommOutreach/epworth.shtml), as well as the "World Class Snoring Quiz" that’s posted on the Awake in Philly site (http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/CommOutreach/WebSleepQuiz.pdf), and to take those results to both the PCP and the psychiatrist. I also referred the person to some other reading materials so they could determine, on their own, if they might have a sleep disorder, in addition to advising the person how to find a *_qualified_* sleep specialist in their community. >Directly observable data for what many of us have been expecting. >I will mention this to my neuropsychiatrist/psychopharmacologist next time I >see him. Can’t wait for his reaction.
I want to hear the reaction, Norm. -dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Dave Jackson * http://www.AwakeInPhilly.org * Phila., PA. + ~~eFax: 253-423-7208~~ * mailto:usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net | Remove the mythical creature from my email address to reply | Some make it happen, some watch it happen, | and some say, "What happened?" – Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" wrote: > On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 14:52:29 GMT, "Patrick Richards" > <patrickricha…@nospamattbi.com> wrote: > >I have mixed feelings having used the drug for over 2 years but > unable to > >now due to allergic reactions. I see potention for abuse in normal > people > >and I am in recovery. > >My feeling is that someone who wants to work longer will take it and > that > >takes away from sleep they need. So I voted for only sleep disorders > only. > I was contacted last week by someone who was given a prescription for > Provigil. The person was telling their family doctor they don’t feel > energetic and that sleep has become a major life activity. The doctor > said, "you’re depressed" while handing the person the prescription for > Provigil. Nothing else. Because of recent news stories, the person > knew that Provigil was used "for keeping people awake," but wanted to > know if it was 1) safe for someone who was "diagnosed as being > depressed," and 2) safe, overall.
So? What did you tell him? Directly observable data for what many of us have been expecting. I will mention this to my neuropsychiatrist/psychopharmacologist next time I see him. Can’t wait for his reaction.
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 14:52:29 GMT, "Patrick Richards" <patrickricha…@nospamattbi.com> wrote: >I have mixed feelings having used the drug for over 2 years but unable to >now due to allergic reactions. I see potention for abuse in normal people >and I am in recovery. >My feeling is that someone who wants to work longer will take it and that >takes away from sleep they need. So I voted for only sleep disorders
only. I was contacted last week by someone who was given a prescription for Provigil. The person was telling their family doctor they don’t feel energetic and that sleep has become a major life activity. The doctor said, "you’re depressed" while handing the person the prescription for Provigil. Nothing else. Because of recent news stories, the person knew that Provigil was used "for keeping people awake," but wanted to know if it was 1) safe for someone who was "diagnosed as being depressed," and 2) safe, overall. -dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Dave Jackson * http://www.AwakeInPhilly.org * Phila., PA. + ~~eFax: 253-423-7208~~ * mailto:usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net | Remove the mythical creature from my email address to reply | Some make it happen, some watch it happen, | and some say, "What happened?" – Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I have mixed feelings having used the drug for over 2 years but unable to now due to allergic reactions. I see potention for abuse in normal people and I am in recovery. My feeling is that someone who wants to work longer will take it and that takes away from sleep they need. So I voted for only sleep disorders only. "Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net> wrote in message news:u32lsuketuungqss994bgtvm5cacjcajfe@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A lot of folks are divided about the use of stimulants, and > particularly the latest prescription medication to help folks start > awake — modafinil, marketed by Cephalon, under the brand name of > Provigil. What’s your take on it? > http://www.scoop0901.net/cgi-bin/poll-it/Poll_It_v2.05.cgi > New Poll: Should Provigil (modafinil) be available for use by > shift-workers in order to stay alert? > ===== > Below are the results to our previous poll. Thanks to the 40 > participants who took part in this poll. > ————————————————————- > Previous Poll Topic: What type of interface (mask) do you > currently use with your xPAP device? > Nasal mask 45% – (18 Votes) > Nasal Pillows 42.5% – (17 Votes) > Full-Face Mask 7.5% – (3 Votes) > Oral device 5% – (2 Votes) > Mouthguard 0% – (0 Votes) > Total Votes: 40 > ————————————————————- > -dave > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > | Dave Jackson * http://www.AwakeInPhilly.org * Phila., PA. > + ~~eFax: 253-423-7208~~ * mailto:usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net > | Remove the mythical creature from my email address to reply > | Some make it happen, some watch it happen, > | and some say, "What happened?" – Unknown > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:40:30 -0500, "Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net> wrote: >New Poll: Should Provigil (modafinil) be available for use by >shift-workers in order to stay alert?
I tried Provigil. It seemed to help a bit but not for long. Using the S.A.D. lamp to change my circadian rythym has made the biggest difference. Since I’ve been on CPAP/BiPAP that is. Tony
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A lot of folks are divided about the use of stimulants, and particularly the latest prescription medication to help folks start awake — modafinil, marketed by Cephalon, under the brand name of Provigil. What’s your take on it? http://www.scoop0901.net/cgi-bin/poll-it/Poll_It_v2.05.cgi New Poll: Should Provigil (modafinil) be available for use by shift-workers in order to stay alert? ===== Below are the results to our previous poll. Thanks to the 40 participants who took part in this poll. ————————————————————- Previous Poll Topic: What type of interface (mask) do you currently use with your xPAP device? Nasal mask 45% – (18 Votes) Nasal Pillows 42.5% – (17 Votes) Full-Face Mask 7.5% – (3 Votes) Oral device 5% – (2 Votes) Mouthguard 0% – (0 Votes) Total Votes: 40 ————————————————————- -dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Dave Jackson * http://www.AwakeInPhilly.org * Phila., PA. + ~~eFax: 253-423-7208~~ * mailto:usenet_u…@UNICORNcomcast.net | Remove the mythical creature from my email address to reply | Some make it happen, some watch it happen, | and some say, "What happened?" – Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
