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Tom McCullough wrote: > Alex T. Kagdis wrote in message >4) I usually pee many times in the middle > of the night – Didn’t have > >to at all last night. > Alex – Congratulations on making it through the first night. I would > attribute the pee effect to the fact that, over the years, you learned to > wake up when you had to pee in the middle of the night. This is usually > accompanied by the cheering of your parents. Later in life, when apnea > causes you to wake up for a totally different reason, part of your brain is > still saying "Alex woke up; he must have to pee."
Tom…. Not so! When in Oxygen deprivation, the one side of the heart has to work harder to try to raise the oxygen levels (hence the frequent heart enlargement of OSA patients). In doing this, fluid builds up around the heart, and in a desperate response to this life threatening situation, the body reacts by having the kidneys dump extra fluids out in the form of urine. OSA’s should have a detailed ultrasound done on the heart to identify any enlargement of the heart so medication can be prescribed to try to gbing it down to normal size before it is too late. Regards, Lee — Lee Babcock Scarborough (Toronto), Ontario, Canada Email —- babco…@idirect.ca
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Alex, I got my CPAP a week ago and I feel like a new person. I am also in San Diego and have been congested everyday this week thanks to the Santa Ana dry conditions. My doctor recommended placing vaseline on my nostrils if my nose got too dry after using this. Whatever the nose problems are…I feel like I have been reborn! This is awesome! Bob Alex T. Kagdis <akag…@cts.com> wrote in message news:38606cd7.589904@nntp.cts.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I wanted to clairify my original message. Yes, I’m using a mask. > Also, as of 10:30pm tonight, my sinuses are still painfully dry. > Should I stop using the CPAP until I get the humidifier, or would it > ok to use it again tonight, and just put up with the dryness until I > get it. We are having unseasonable dryness right now, and it should > go away soon (I’m in San Diego). > -Alex
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Alex T. Kagdis <akag…@cts.com> wrote in message news:385ff340.148053257@nntp.cts.com… > Hello All!
Hi, Alex, welcome to the wonderful world of CPAP. All in all, it sounds like you had a pretty typical first night. You did better than I did my first night–my first week or two actually. Now, I’ve been blowing CPAP for three years and it is like it has always been a part of me. I read that you don’t have a humidifier. It sounds like you would benefit from having one. I got a passover humidifier right off and have been happy with it. I don’t have allergies so I don’t need a heated one. I had some nasal congestion at first and I used nasal spray for a week until I learned that the nasal spray I was using could cause even more problems. Besides, I didn’t like the idea of having to spray that gunk in my nose all the time. So, I went without it from then on and my body must have adjusted to all the newness that was going on because the congestion cleared up. I always have one nostril fairly blocked up all the time anyway, day and night, but I get enough air pressure going down my throat to stave off the apnea. About the peeing thing, ain’t it wonderful!!! That was THE MOST annoying thing to me about sleeping. I hated getting up four times to go pee. When I discovered that using CPAP put a stop to that, I swore that I would never give up my CPAP. Your body has a chance to finally get the rest it needs and that slows down the urine output, so my doctor told me. Keep up the good sleep! Jo
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Alex T. Kagdis wrote in message >4) I usually pee many times in the middle
of the night – Didn’t have >to at all last night.
Alex – Congratulations on making it through the first night. I would attribute the pee effect to the fact that, over the years, you learned to wake up when you had to pee in the middle of the night. This is usually accompanied by the cheering of your parents. Later in life, when apnea causes you to wake up for a totally different reason, part of your brain is still saying "Alex woke up; he must have to pee."
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More likel;y the middle of the night syndrome is nocturia, a symptom quite common in apneics. That it went away shows the apnea treatment is at the very least patially a success. regards, eric pearson er…@nospammindspring.com On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:19:49 -0500, "Tom McCullough" <ta…@erols.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Alex T. Kagdis wrote in message >4) I usually pee many times in the middle >of the night – Didn’t have >>to at all last night. >Alex – Congratulations on making it through the first night. I would >attribute the pee effect to the fact that, over the years, you learned to >wake up when you had to pee in the middle of the night. This is usually >accompanied by the cheering of your parents. Later in life, when apnea >causes you to wake up for a totally different reason, part of your brain is >still saying "Alex woke up; he must have to pee."
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I wanted to clairify my original message. Yes, I’m using a mask. Also, as of 10:30pm tonight, my sinuses are still painfully dry. Should I stop using the CPAP until I get the humidifier, or would it ok to use it again tonight, and just put up with the dryness until I get it. We are having unseasonable dryness right now, and it should go away soon (I’m in San Diego). -Alex
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"Alex T. Kagdis" wrote: > I wanted to clairify my original message. Yes, I’m using a mask. > Also, as of 10:30pm tonight, my sinuses are still painfully dry. > Should I stop using the CPAP until I get the humidifier, or would it > ok to use it again tonight, and just put up with the dryness until I > get it. We are having unseasonable dryness right now, and it should > go away soon (I’m in San Diego). > -Alex
Use the CPAP, but buy some salt water (one brand is Ocean) to help irrigate your nostrils. Big Al db-g…@bignospamfoot.com Remove nospam to reply via email
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Alex T. Kagdis" wrote: > Hello All! > I know that this might be done a lot, but I wanted to give a > progress report on my first night using the REMStar Plus LX – using on > a setting of 13, no humidifier. > I went to bed at the normal time for me, and for about 2 hrs I > was struggling with it to try to get comfortable. I used the ramp > feature because starting out with the full pressure was just too much > for me. I was so uncomfortable that I had to have my wife sleep on > the couch so I could sprawl out as much as I could. > That seemed to help, I got used to breathing against the > pressure and had freedom of movement but that damn tube kept bugging > me, I kept feeling that it was waking me up so I could reposition it > so my mask wouldn’t leak. > I ‘woke’ up a 7:30 and a couple of thing I noticed: > 1) I was awake, I am usually groggy – walking around usually feels > ‘zombified’. I didn’t know immediately if I felt any better. > 2) I had nasal/head congestion and a little dry. > 3) I usually sweat like a beast at night – sweat so bad that it goes > through the pillow, through the towel I lay on, through the sheets all > the way to the mattress – didn’t happen last night. > 4) I usually pee many times in the middle of the night – Didn’t have > to at all last night. > I didn’t have work today, so I went back to bed at 8:30 and slept > ‘much’ better. I was used to the breathing and could deal with the > hose. I also took Sudafed and some ibuprofen – cleared me up nicely. > The only thing was when I woke up at 12:30 my sinuses were kinda dry, > and one nostril had bloody, dried-up snot. Other than that I had a > lot of energy and felt pretty much o.k. > Anybody have similar experiences and/or insight on any of this? > -Alex > (sorry for the long-winded diatribe)
Sounds pretty typical for a lot of people. Don’t expect instant and complete relief. Like you, I got almost instant relief from the horrible night sweats and 4 to 5 pees a night. The damn mask and hose were demons from hell however, and took a lot of getting used to. I couldn’t tolerate the pressure so after the first two weeks, I had to reduce the pressure and work up in increments to the precribed level. Thank God for the ramp function. Now, after four months, I don’t even use the ramp function and the hose and mask are no longer a problem. My old grandmother used to say ‘ you can get used to anything, even hanging, provided you live long enough’! Someone I recently met that has been on CPAP for five years said getting used to it was like getting used to his false teeth when he got them. I hope all these good things you have experienced continue and get even better, but keep letting us know how things are going. Regards, Lee — Lee Babcock Scarborough (Toronto), Ontario, Canada Email —- babco…@idirect.ca
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Alex: I’ve been using a RemStar Plus LX since August. Pressure of 17. The whole thing does take some getting used to — you certainly have to give it more than 1 night. I don’t use a humidifier, even with the forced hot air heat in our house. Instead, I put some saline gel ("Ayr") in each nostril before I put the mask on, and I haven’t had a problem with congestion. It works for me, and I think it’s less of a bother than cleaning and maintaining a humidifier. You might want to give it a try. Good luck, and happy sleeping! — Paul Gilbert Alex T. Kagdis <akag…@cts.com> wrote in message news:385ff340.148053257@nntp.cts.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello All! > I know that this might be done a lot, but I wanted to give a > progress report on my first night using the REMStar Plus LX – using on > a setting of 13, no humidifier. > I went to bed at the normal time for me, and for about 2 hrs I > was struggling with it to try to get comfortable. I used the ramp > feature because starting out with the full pressure was just too much > for me. I was so uncomfortable that I had to have my wife sleep on > the couch so I could sprawl out as much as I could. > That seemed to help, I got used to breathing against the > pressure and had freedom of movement but that damn tube kept bugging > me, I kept feeling that it was waking me up so I could reposition it > so my mask wouldn’t leak. > I ‘woke’ up a 7:30 and a couple of thing I noticed: > 1) I was awake, I am usually groggy – walking around usually feels > ‘zombified’. I didn’t know immediately if I felt any better. > 2) I had nasal/head congestion and a little dry. > 3) I usually sweat like a beast at night – sweat so bad that it goes > through the pillow, through the towel I lay on, through the sheets all > the way to the mattress – didn’t happen last night. > 4) I usually pee many times in the middle of the night – Didn’t have > to at all last night. > I didn’t have work today, so I went back to bed at 8:30 and slept > ‘much’ better. I was used to the breathing and could deal with the > hose. I also took Sudafed and some ibuprofen – cleared me up nicely. > The only thing was when I woke up at 12:30 my sinuses were kinda dry, > and one nostril had bloody, dried-up snot. Other than that I had a > lot of energy and felt pretty much o.k. > Anybody have similar experiences and/or insight on any of this? > -Alex > (sorry for the long-winded diatribe)
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Hello All! I know that this might be done a lot, but I wanted to give a progress report on my first night using the REMStar Plus LX – using on a setting of 13, no humidifier. I went to bed at the normal time for me, and for about 2 hrs I was struggling with it to try to get comfortable. I used the ramp feature because starting out with the full pressure was just too much for me. I was so uncomfortable that I had to have my wife sleep on the couch so I could sprawl out as much as I could. That seemed to help, I got used to breathing against the pressure and had freedom of movement but that damn tube kept bugging me, I kept feeling that it was waking me up so I could reposition it so my mask wouldn’t leak. I ‘woke’ up a 7:30 and a couple of thing I noticed: 1) I was awake, I am usually groggy – walking around usually feels ‘zombified’. I didn’t know immediately if I felt any better. 2) I had nasal/head congestion and a little dry. 3) I usually sweat like a beast at night – sweat so bad that it goes through the pillow, through the towel I lay on, through the sheets all the way to the mattress – didn’t happen last night. 4) I usually pee many times in the middle of the night – Didn’t have to at all last night. I didn’t have work today, so I went back to bed at 8:30 and slept ‘much’ better. I was used to the breathing and could deal with the hose. I also took Sudafed and some ibuprofen – cleared me up nicely. The only thing was when I woke up at 12:30 my sinuses were kinda dry, and one nostril had bloody, dried-up snot. Other than that I had a lot of energy and felt pretty much o.k. Anybody have similar experiences and/or insight on any of this? -Alex (sorry for the long-winded diatribe)
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Alex – I think that a heated humidifier will help you a lot. Many people have problems with congestion because the rush of air is so drying. Heated humidifiers help many of them. There are also less expensive passive (unheated) humidifiers, but for many people they simply don’t humidify the air enough. You didn’t say whether you use a mask or nasal pillows, but it is possible to fasten either of them too tightly. In fact, leaks are as likely to be caused when they are too tight as when they are too loose. Both types are designed to be sealed when air pressure expands the soft skirts to expand to conform to your face. If they are too tight, the expansion is too constrained and they cannot seal properly. I use nasal pillows, and I found that the hose itself would twist the headgear as I rolled around because the hose resists twisting. I solved this problem by using a swivel connector between the pillow holder and the hose and fastening only one loop on the headgear around the hose and leaving it quite loose so the hose could freely rotate within the Velcro loop. Perhaps this same trick would work for masks as well. Kent Taylor (Mongo) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Alex T. Kagdis wrote in message <385ff340.148053…@nntp.cts.com>… >Hello All! > I know that this might be done a lot, but I wanted to give a >progress report on my first night using the REMStar Plus LX – using on >a setting of 13, no humidifier. > I went to bed at the normal time for me, and for about 2 hrs I >was struggling with it to try to get comfortable. I used the ramp >feature because starting out with the full pressure was just too much >for me. I was so uncomfortable that I had to have my wife sleep on >the couch so I could sprawl out as much as I could. > That seemed to help, I got used to breathing against the >pressure and had freedom of movement but that damn tube kept bugging >me, I kept feeling that it was waking me up so I could reposition it >so my mask wouldn’t leak. > I ‘woke’ up a 7:30 and a couple of thing I noticed: >1) I was awake, I am usually groggy – walking around usually feels >’zombified’. I didn’t know immediately if I felt any better. >2) I had nasal/head congestion and a little dry. >3) I usually sweat like a beast at night – sweat so bad that it goes >through the pillow, through the towel I lay on, through the sheets all >the way to the mattress – didn’t happen last night. >4) I usually pee many times in the middle of the night – Didn’t have >to at all last night. >I didn’t have work today, so I went back to bed at 8:30 and slept >’much’ better. I was used to the breathing and could deal with the >hose. I also took Sudafed and some ibuprofen – cleared me up nicely. >The only thing was when I woke up at 12:30 my sinuses were kinda dry, >and one nostril had bloody, dried-up snot. Other than that I had a >lot of energy and felt pretty much o.k. >Anybody have similar experiences and/or insight on any of this? >-Alex >(sorry for the long-winded diatribe)
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Notations of ‘cotton mouth’ upon awakening. > 9) Naps > 10) Frequency of dreaming. > and probably a few others. > If the doc is concentious and competent, such a journal will probably > help. > regards, > eric pearson > er…@spammersgo.away@mindspring.com > On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:17:23 -0800, Jennifer Henry > <roog…@rooart.com> wrote: > >I’ve got an appointment at a center! This probably sounds like a small > >thing, but it is a big step for me. I decided to take patient > >responsibility to heart, and if my doctor won’t agree to refer me I’ll > >just deal with it somehow. I see the sleep specialist the first week in > >April, four days before my doctor’s appointment (where I am supposed to > >talk her into the fact I need the referral to the center) so either I > >will be able to go to her armed with information, or I’ll be out $200. > >I’m going to Providence Medical Center here in Seattle, I don’t know if > >anyone in this group has experience with them, but they seem to have a > >good reputation. > >So I’m looking for some advice – how do I get the most out of this > >appointment? Should I take my medical records with me, or is that > >unnecessary? I have started keeping a journal of my sleeping habits, > >mostly for my own information. Is that something they would be > >interested in? Are there specific questions I should make sure I ask? > >I know there are lots of experienced folks in this group, I am just a > >fledgling and a little (okay maybe more than a little) anxious. Thanks > >for your help!! > >Jen 