Paresthesia

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there is such a thing a BENIGN irregular heart beat…me knows, cause me got one! Same here.  I’ve got what’s called PVC’s, or pre-ventricular contractions. My doc says it occurs among about 12 percent of the population, and most are completely unaware they have it.

I knew we were meant for each other, I have too :-) Mary (not a word to Spouse)

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Please don’t hate to differ, that is the whole point of discussion.  It would be a bit pointless if we all agreed all the time, or if we failed to put our viewpoint for fear someone might not agree with it.

Hurrah!  I am pleased to be corrected if I get things wrong.

Hm. But when did that last happen on this ng? Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tim

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but your husband may have a NON-benign irregular heart rhythm when he catches on to your mischief!

| | | there is such a thing a BENIGN irregular heart beat…me knows, cause me | got | one! | | Same here.  I’ve got what’s called PVC’s, or pre-ventricular | contractions. | | My doc says it occurs among about 12 percent of the population, and | most are completely unaware they have it. | | I knew we were meant for each other, I have too :-) | | Mary | (not a word to Spouse) | | |

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Mary, does Erik know you are kissing up to Tim?

| | | | | Please don’t hate to differ, that is the whole point of discussion.  It | would be a bit pointless if we all agreed all the time, or if we failed to | put our viewpoint for fear someone might not agree with it. | | Hurrah! | |  I am pleased to | be corrected if I get things wrong. | | Hm. But when did that last happen on this ng? | | Mary | | Tim | | | |

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but your husband may have a NON-benign irregular heart rhythm when he catches on to your mischief!

Done that, been there, he had his heart attack in 1984. He’s much more laid back since then. And he knows about all my mischiefs, I tell him everything. So don’t blather your secrets on here :-) )))) Mary

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Mary, does Erik know you are kissing up to Tim?

Erik is very understanding. He’d kiss up to Tim if he had the opportunity :-) When Erik comes to Yorkshire I’ll take him to see Tim even though he lives at the other side of the hill. Those pictures should be interesting! Mary

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I have seen Erik’s photo…or what he purports is HIS photo…looks like Tom Selleck.  on this side of the pond, that ain’t bad.

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| | Mary, does Erik know you are kissing up to Tim? | | Erik is very understanding. He’d kiss up to Tim if he had the opportunity | :-) | | When Erik comes to Yorkshire I’ll take him to see Tim even though he lives | at the other side of the hill. Those pictures should be interesting! | | Mary | | |

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Also because of the frequent vomiting, maybe there are other vitamin and/or other nutrient deficiencies as well–i.e. B vitamins or others? Can you ask to speak with a nutritionist through your health care plan?

I can and have, and the nutritionist can’t get past the frequent vomiting. They are trying their hardest not to put me in the hospital, but I really just need to be on IV everything. — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Mary, does Erik know you are kissing up to Tim? Erik is very understanding. He’d kiss up to Tim if he had the opportunity :-)

LOL Now lets get one thing straight.  I don’t do tongues! Tim

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So you symptoms fall in this catagory…what is your actual K

It was 2.5 at today’s visit to the emergency room.  Not content to suffer just the paresthesia, my hands and feet have started to curl up.  I’ll start feeling weird and suddenly my thumb will curl under the palm of my hand.  Then my whole hand cramps into a weird pointing position.  This is on both sides.  I wen to the ER yesterday when this happened.  It was awful.  I had that buzzing pins and needles sensation all over me, my face was stiff and I couldn’t talk well, my hands were drawn up to my chest like a fetus’s, and they HURT.  Got K and other fluids yesterday, and then the same damn thing happened today.  At least I knew what was happening today and I wasn’t as scared. — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Tom Selleck’s hair is the wrong color.  YOU can do no wrong.

| | I have seen Erik’s photo…or what he purports is HIS photo…looks like Tom | Selleck.  on this side of the pond, that ain’t bad. | | Now, now.  Let’s not exaggerate. | | My hair’s the wrong color. | | |

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I have seen Erik’s photo…or what he purports is HIS photo…looks like Tom Selleck.  on this side of the pond, that ain’t bad.

No idea who Tom selleck is. I’d love to continue this but it’s half past midnight, we’ve been working hard, physically, most of the day and I must go to bed. Nothing personal! Mary (where did you see Erik’s pic?)

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Tom Selleck is a friend of Michelle Pfeiffer. Wouldn’t you like to know about that photo???

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| I have seen Erik’s photo…or what he purports is HIS photo…looks like | Tom | Selleck.  on this side of the pond, that ain’t bad. | | No idea who Tom selleck is. | | I’d love to continue this but it’s half past midnight, we’ve been working | hard, physically, most of the day and I must go to bed. | | Nothing personal! | | Mary | (where did you see Erik’s pic?) | |

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(secrets) I wish I had some.  My life is calm and peaceful, if you overlook my baseball team’s having traded away some of my favorite players in recent sad days.

Well, never mind, you never know what’s coming to you ;-) Mary

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I wish I had some.  My life is calm and peaceful, if you overlook my baseball team’s having traded away some of my favorite players in recent sad days.

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| but your husband may have a NON-benign irregular heart rhythm when he | catches on to your mischief! | | Done that, been there, he had his heart attack in 1984. He’s much more laid | back since then. | | And he knows about all my mischiefs, I tell him everything. | | So don’t blather your secrets on here :-) )))) | | Mary | |

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I thought PVC had to do with plumbing. aint’ we special, in that 12%

| | there is such a thing a BENIGN irregular heart beat…me knows, cause me got | one! | | Same here.  I’ve got what’s called PVC’s, or pre-ventricular | contractions. | | My doc says it occurs among about 12 percent of the population, and | most are completely unaware they have it. |

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Gosh Catharine, sorry to hear that you are having these difficulties.  Maybe it is related to something like low potassium  as Alex suggested.  If that is the case, Potassium supplements would be helpful.   Also because of the frequent vomiting, maybe there are other vitamin and/or other nutrient deficiencies as well–i.e. B vitamins or others?  Can you ask to speak with a nutritionist through your health care plan?   My best thoughts and prayers are with you.   {{{Hugs}}}

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there is such a thing a BENIGN irregular heart beat…me knows, cause me got one!

| You said: | "I had always assumed that the suddenness of a | stroke reflected a sudden change in blood flow, but this is not the case, | the ischemic event is a local snap-action (positive feedback) resulting from | a gradual change in outside chemistry, rather like a cramp | | "One thing I learnt from my father having TIA’s (mini-strokes) is that the | symptoms of stroke are due to the chemistry, and not directly due to | thrombosis.  His TIA’s happened because an erratic heart was not delivering | enough blood to the brain" | | I hate to beg to differ | A TIA is a mechanical event that can lead to a stroke | – a true are caused by a blood clot temporarily reducing blood flow to the | brain, disappear when blood flow resumes. There are many symptoms that maybe | similar, such as seizure, low blood sygar or Bell’s Palsy which are not TIA | or strokes." | TIA ( or stroke) | Besides the symptoms: | Computed tomography (CT) scan of the head | Cerebral computed tomography scans are done to check for bleeding in the | brain when symptoms of a TIA are occurring and to check for evidence of | stroke or other disease, such as a tumor. | Using a CT scan, doctors can determine whether symptoms were actually caused | by a stroke that had short-lived symptoms. A TIA will not be seen on a CT | scan. | Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) | After the first 24 hours, magnetic resonance imaging can identify the exact | size and location of the area affected by a stroke. | MRI can identify small strokes better than a CT scan. | MRI and CT test results must be compared with your symptoms and are not a | substitute for a good physical evaluation. Further tests are often done to | identify the underlying cause of the TIA. If hardening of the carotid | arteries is suspected, the following tests may be done. | | Doppler ultrasound | Magnetic resonance angiography (MRA) | Angiography of the head and neck | | A TIA is a mechanical event that can lead to a stroke. | | The description you gave- I could attribute AFTER the clot occurs and the | tissue is ischemic is a condition in which oxygen deprivation occurs in the | brain. | Low blood flow does not equal the symptoms you stated…..in fac the | opposite happens….when a rapid shift of blood flow occurs, such as an | acute bleed the blood pressure tends to go up befure it bottoms out, and if | effect the whole brain not one area. | | I can’t speak to your father’s cause but the medical literature is well | documunted that irregalur heart rate leads to TIA ans stroke, due the blood | that coagulates in the ventricular in the heart that travel to the | brain…..that is why they often try to regulate the heart or thin the blood | after one to these events. | Alex | | |

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You said: "I had always assumed that the suddenness of a stroke reflected a sudden change in blood flow, but this is not the case, the ischemic event is a local snap-action (positive feedback) resulting from a gradual change in outside chemistry, rather like a cramp "One thing I learnt from my father having TIA’s (mini-strokes) is that the symptoms of stroke are due to the chemistry, and not directly due to thrombosis.  His TIA’s happened because an erratic heart was not delivering enough blood to the brain" I hate to beg to differ A TIA is a mechanical event that can lead to a stroke – a true are caused by a blood clot temporarily reducing blood flow to the brain, disappear when blood flow resumes. I can’t speak to your father’s cause but the medical literature is well documunted that irregalur heart rate leads to TIA ans stroke, due the blood that coagulates in the ventricular in the heart that travel to the brain. Alex

I don’t claim to have researched this, and that advice only came from a single source.  The explanation I was given at the time went into rather more detail but that was the gist of it.  (Now I have two explanations.) Certainly in his case, whatever the mechanism, fitting a pacemaker cured the problem, and identifying the TIAs among numerous other symptoms led to the diagnosis which probably ’saved’ his life at that time. Please don’t hate to differ, that is the whole point of discussion.  It would be a bit pointless if we all agreed all the time, or if we failed to put our viewpoint for fear someone might not agree with it.  I am pleased to be corrected if I get things wrong. Tim

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You said: "I had always assumed that the suddenness of a stroke reflected a sudden change in blood flow, but this is not the case, the ischemic event is a local snap-action (positive feedback) resulting from a gradual change in outside chemistry, rather like a cramp "One thing I learnt from my father having TIA’s (mini-strokes) is that the symptoms of stroke are due to the chemistry, and not directly due to thrombosis.  His TIA’s happened because an erratic heart was not delivering enough blood to the brain" I hate to beg to differ A TIA is a mechanical event that can lead to a stroke – a true are caused by a blood clot temporarily reducing blood flow to the brain, disappear when blood flow resumes. There are many symptoms that maybe similar, such as seizure, low blood sygar or Bell’s Palsy which are not TIA or strokes." TIA ( or stroke) Besides the symptoms: Computed tomography (CT) scan of the head Cerebral computed tomography scans are done to check for bleeding in the brain when symptoms of a TIA are occurring and to check for evidence of stroke or other disease, such as a tumor. Using a CT scan, doctors can determine whether symptoms were actually caused by a stroke that had short-lived symptoms. A TIA will not be seen on a CT scan. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) After the first 24 hours, magnetic resonance imaging can identify the exact size and location of the area affected by a stroke. MRI can identify small strokes better than a CT scan. MRI and CT test results must be compared with your symptoms and are not a substitute for a good physical evaluation. Further tests are often done to identify the underlying cause of the TIA. If hardening of the carotid arteries is suspected, the following tests may be done. Doppler ultrasound Magnetic resonance angiography (MRA) Angiography of the head and neck A TIA is a mechanical event that can lead to a stroke. The description you gave- I could attribute AFTER the clot occurs and the tissue is ischemic is a condition in which oxygen deprivation occurs in the brain. Low blood flow does not equal the symptoms you stated…..in fac the opposite happens….when a rapid shift of blood flow occurs, such as an acute bleed the blood pressure tends to go up befure it bottoms out, and if effect the whole brain not one area. I can’t speak to your father’s cause but the medical literature is well documunted that irregalur heart rate leads to TIA ans stroke, due the blood that coagulates in the ventricular in the heart that travel to the brain…..that is why they often try to regulate the heart or thin the blood after one to these events. Alex

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Hypokalemian ( Low K). Common symptoms include the following: Palpitations Skeletal muscle weakness or cramping Paralysis, paresthesias Constipation Nausea or vomiting Abdominal cramping Polyuria, nocturia, or polydipsia Psychosis, delirium, or hallucinations Depression Physical: Findings may include the following: Signs of ileus Hypotension Ventricular arrhythmias Cardiac arrest Bradycardia or tachycardia Premature atrial or ventricular beats Hypoventilation, respiratory distress Respiratory failure Lethargy or other mental status changes Decreased muscle strength, fasciculations, or tetany Decreased tendon reflexes Cushingoid appearance (eg, edema) So you symptoms fall in this catagory…what is your actual K ( potassium). Having fluids at home sounds like a good idea..in my neck of the woods it would be an automatic approval. Happy Holidays, and I agree you are SUPER Alec

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Bummer.  For about the last six weeks I have been experiencing increasingly worse paresthesia.  It moves from spot to spot.  The most reliable spots to feel this (a very dense "pins and needles feeling") are my left arm, the left side of my face and head,

Bummer ! and, if I sit upright and try to touch my chin to my chest, I get it in a fan shape at the base of my spine.

<doctor on Well, don’t do that then Catharine ! <doctor off It can get bad enough that my doctor thinks I’m having a stroke.  I spent about six hours in the ED last week having IV fluid and lots of potassium infused into me.   Dr. was pretty SURE it wasn’t a stroke, but wanted to make sure. Is this a sign of potassium deficiency?

Well, parathesia – potassium isn’t mentioned here http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003206.htm I’m sure some of the causes mentioned there are applicable, but do not ignore the one I constantly go on about. Vit-B12 Also Medline came up with "bone changes" (referring to osteoporosis, but imagine you are having bone changes?? ). Are you a plant? (just kidding but that’s mostly what comes up on ‘net searches, so lets’ look at one). http://www.collateralworks.com/doctoroptimara/diagnosis/potassiumdefi… The most common cause of Potassium Deficiency is either a lack of available potassium in the soil or a pH imbalance in the soil which inhibits the absorption of all nutrients. Potassium Deficiency may also be caused by an excess of calcium or magnesium.Short of sending your plant to a laboratory for testing, you will probably have to be satisfied with simply knowing that your African Violet suffers a nutritional imbalance without knowing the exact elements involved. <snip Sure sounds like you’ve got an imbalance there. <even though we know you’re no Violet, African or other For your consideration http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic260.htm Hypercalcemia  (too much calcium) can cause nausea and vomiting. (vicious cycle) http://www.cc.nih.gov/ccc/supplements/magn.html Excess magnesium can cause "heart" type problems. (bottom of the page) If either/both applicable, I don’t know what to do about. Did/do they check your calcium and magnesium levels? Hope the approval comes in soon, Catharine.  Makes more sense to be getting the fluids daily, then cycling off and getting low and then getting an abrupt "jolt" to the system. Or better yet, eating. Hugs J

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I suppose it does sound like some sort of electrolyte problem.  The moving about and the range of locations mean it is either something affecting the whole brain, or else a system wide nerve problem.  The associations with movement and emesis are meaningful I am sure, but I can’t figure out what the meaning is.  If you were a computer I’d diagnose a power supply fault. One thing I learnt from my father having TIA’s (mini-strokes) is that the symptoms of stroke are due to the chemistry, and not directly due to thrombosis.  His TIA’s happened because an erratic heart was not delivering enough blood to the brain.  I had always assumed that the suddenness of a stroke reflected a sudden change in blood flow, but this is not the case, the ischemic event is a local snap-action (positive feedback) resulting from a gradual change in outside chemistry, rather like a cramp.  In his case both motor and sensory nerves in the relevant area were affected. I’m afraid that’s about all I have for you on this one. Tim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bummer.  For about the last six weeks I have been experiencing increasingly worse paresthesia.  It moves from spot to spot.  The most reliable spots to feel this (a very dense "pins and needles feeling") are my left arm, the left side of my face and head, and, if I sit upright and try to touch my chin to my chest, I get it in a fan shape at the base of my spine. It can get bad enough that my doctor thinks I’m having a stroke.  I spent about six hours in the ED last week having IV fluid and lots of potassium infused into me.   Dr. was pretty SURE it wasn’t a stroke, but wanted to make sure. Is this a sign of potassium deficiency?  I’m still not eating anything and vomiting several times a day, barely able to keep water down.  Now  the pins and needles are in a mask pattern across the top of my face and, of course, my whole left arm is involved.  We’re trying to get my insurance company to approve me coming in for fluids daily, rather than waiting until it’s an emergency and I have to go to the (expensive) ED. The only pattern I’ve been able to discern is that if I get pins and needles up both sides of my neck, in a feathery kind of pattern, I’m going to throw up soon. It doesn’t hurt, it is just very annoying and physically irritating. — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bummer.  For about the last six weeks I have been experiencing increasingly worse paresthesia.  It moves from spot to spot.  The most reliable spots to feel this (a very dense "pins and needles feeling") are my left arm, the left side of my face and head, and, if I sit upright and try to touch my chin to my chest, I get it in a fan shape at the base of my spine. It can get bad enough that my doctor thinks I’m having a stroke.  I spent about six hours in the ED last week having IV fluid and lots of potassium infused into me.   Dr. was pretty SURE it wasn’t a stroke, but wanted to make sure. Is this a sign of potassium deficiency?  I’m still not eating anything and vomiting several times a day, barely able to keep water down.  Now  the pins and needles are in a mask pattern across the top of my face and, of course, my whole left arm is involved.  We’re trying to get my insurance company to approve me coming in for fluids daily, rather than waiting until it’s an emergency and I have to go to the (expensive) ED. The only pattern I’ve been able to discern is that if I get pins and needles up both sides of my neck, in a feathery kind of pattern, I’m going to throw up soon. It doesn’t hurt, it is just very annoying and physically irritating.

Catharine, how DO you manage to post to the group under such conditions? You’re incredible! Hugs, Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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Bummer.  For about the last six weeks I have been experiencing increasingly worse paresthesia.  It moves from spot to spot.  The most reliable spots to feel this (a very dense "pins and needles feeling") are my left arm, the left side of my face and head, and, if I sit upright and try to touch my chin to my chest, I get it in a fan shape at the base of my spine. It can get bad enough that my doctor thinks I’m having a stroke.  I spent about six hours in the ED last week having IV fluid and lots of potassium infused into me.   Dr. was pretty SURE it wasn’t a stroke, but wanted to make sure. Is this a sign of potassium deficiency?  I’m still not eating anything and vomiting several times a day, barely able to keep water down.  Now  the pins and needles are in a mask pattern across the top of my face and, of course, my whole left arm is involved.  We’re trying to get my insurance company to approve me coming in for fluids daily, rather than waiting until it’s an emergency and I have to go to the (expensive) ED. The only pattern I’ve been able to discern is that if I get pins and needles up both sides of my neck, in a feathery kind of pattern, I’m going to throw up soon. It doesn’t hurt, it is just very annoying and physically irritating. — Aloha, Catharine Character is what you do when no one’s watching.

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