I Sleep In Three "Periods"; What's wrong with me?
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m Devlin wrote: > "Tal" <ta…@tpg.com.au> wrote: >>>Are you drinking water because your mouth is horribly dry? Frequent >>>nighttime urination and a dry mouth are two very common symptoms of >>>obstructive sleep apnea. >>Is dry mouth a result of breathing through mouth…… > I’m not sure what causes the dry mouth, only that it shows up on most > of the sleep apnea questionnaires.
Thought I learned here, and came to agree, that it can occur from breathing through through your mouth. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>or …….something to do with the same thing that causes the peeing? > I don’t think it’s directly related to nocturia. Pre-CPAP, I used to > need a glass of water on the headboard when I went to bed, but I only > made one bathroom trip at the most. > Tom
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Needing to urinate during night is *very* often a syptom of apnea. You probably need a sleep test. regards, eric pearson db2e…@nospammindspring.com On 13 Nov 2001 17:51:01 -0800, el_chic…@yahoo.com (Chicoco) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> NormC wrote: >> Do you ever urinate during the night time arousals? >Yep- just about every time. And I always drink water everytime I >wake up. >You think THAT could be the reason I wake up so much? My bladder is >telling my brain to wake up and go to the bathroom?? >Chicoco
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NormC <no…@socal.rr.com> wrote: >> I’m not sure what causes the dry mouth, only that it shows up on most >> of the sleep apnea questionnaires. >Thought I learned here, and came to agree, that it can occur >from breathing through through your mouth.
Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I’m not sure why it’s a sleep apnea symptom. I’ve always been a mouth breather (nobody could snore that loud through their nose <g>) but the dry mouth problem is more recent, it probably started at around the same time as the OSA. I didn’t have nocturia, and only occasional night sweats, so I don’t think it was dehydration. I don’t know what the connection is, only that one exists. Tom
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tom Devlin wrote: > NormC <no…@socal.rr.com> wrote: >>>I’m not sure what causes the dry mouth, only that it shows up on most >>>of the sleep apnea questionnaires. >>Thought I learned here, and came to agree, that it can occur >>from breathing through through your mouth. > Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I’m not sure why it’s a sleep apnea symptom. > I’ve always been a mouth breather (nobody could snore that loud > through their nose <g>) but the dry mouth problem is more recent, it > probably started at around the same time as the OSA. I didn’t have > nocturia, and only occasional night sweats, so I don’t think it was > dehydration. I don’t know what the connection is, only that one > exists.
MaybeAh ha. I thought if you breathed through your mouth, you had a ‘desert dry mouth’. Maybe the sudden onset of ‘desert dry mouth’, for me, isn’t from breathing through my mouth. Then the lack of quality sleep might be from CPAP pressure too low. That would, indeed, be great (for me).
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NormC <no…@socal.rr.com> wrote: >> I’ve always been a mouth breather (nobody could snore that loud >> through their nose <g>) but the dry mouth problem is more recent, it >> probably started at around the same time as the OSA. I didn’t have >> nocturia, and only occasional night sweats, so I don’t think it was >> dehydration. I don’t know what the connection is, only that one >> exists. > MaybeAh ha. I thought if you breathed through your mouth, you had >a ‘desert dry mouth’.
That’s one possibility. Lack of heated humidification can also do it. >Maybe the sudden onset of ‘desert dry mouth’, for me, isn’t from breathing >through my mouth. Then the lack of quality sleep might be from CPAP pressure > too low.
Based on my experience, I think that’s possible. But I’m only guessing, I really hadn’t thought about it before this thread. >That would, indeed, be great (for me).
Indeed! Tom
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Do you ever urinate during the night time arousals? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chicoco wrote: > I’m brand new to this group. I just found it and I’m glad I did! I > hope somebody can help or at least relate. > For as long as I can remember, here’s my sleep pattern: > -Go to bed at 11:00ish. > -Wake up at 2:00ish. Go get something to drink (water, OJ) and/or > small to eat. > -Go back to sleep five or ten minutes later. Fall back asleep easily. > -Wake up at 4:30 or 5:00. Eat and/or drink something again. > -Go back to sleep five or ten minutes later. Usually fall back asleep > easily. > -Wake up at 6:30ish. Almost never wake up feeling ‘refreshed’. I > don’t think that I really know what that even means. > I can’t even imagine sleeping an entire night through. Do people > actually DO that? (I know they do, but it seems amazing to me) > I’m usually pretty drowsy during the day so I have to take a quick (20 > minute) nap at lunch (when possible) and a major (1 hour) nap after > work. > Sorry for the long post! But that’s my story. I’d appreciate any > comments. > Gracias! > Chicoco
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sound like sleep apnea maybe have a read of this http://www.healthyresources.com/sleep/apnea/question/quiz.html Quiz for identifying possible sleep apnea Free, self-scoring Articles by patients and professionals explain sleep apnea and how to treat it including using CPAP Warren "Chicoco" <el_chic…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d96be677.0111121915.6c8f072@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m brand new to this group. I just found it and I’m glad I did! I > hope somebody can help or at least relate. > For as long as I can remember, here’s my sleep pattern: > -Go to bed at 11:00ish. > -Wake up at 2:00ish. Go get something to drink (water, OJ) and/or > small to eat. > -Go back to sleep five or ten minutes later. Fall back asleep easily. > -Wake up at 4:30 or 5:00. Eat and/or drink something again. > -Go back to sleep five or ten minutes later. Usually fall back asleep > easily. > -Wake up at 6:30ish. Almost never wake up feeling ‘refreshed’. I > don’t think that I really know what that even means. > I can’t even imagine sleeping an entire night through. Do people > actually DO that? (I know they do, but it seems amazing to me) > I’m usually pretty drowsy during the day so I have to take a quick (20 > minute) nap at lunch (when possible) and a major (1 hour) nap after > work. > Sorry for the long post! But that’s my story. I’d appreciate any > comments. > Gracias! > Chicoco
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1) Do you have nocturia? i.e. need to wake to urinate more than a couple of times per month. If so, have doc check for apnea. Need for naps reinforces this as probable. 2) Do you have diabetes? Have you been tested for this? regards, eric pearson db2e…@nospammindspring.com On 12 Nov 2001 19:15:01 -0800, el_chic…@yahoo.com (Chicoco) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m brand new to this group. I just found it and I’m glad I did! I >hope somebody can help or at least relate. >For as long as I can remember, here’s my sleep pattern: >-Go to bed at 11:00ish. >-Wake up at 2:00ish. Go get something to drink (water, OJ) and/or >small to eat. >-Go back to sleep five or ten minutes later. Fall back asleep easily. >-Wake up at 4:30 or 5:00. Eat and/or drink something again. >-Go back to sleep five or ten minutes later. Usually fall back asleep >easily. >-Wake up at 6:30ish. Almost never wake up feeling ‘refreshed’. I >don’t think that I really know what that even means. >I can’t even imagine sleeping an entire night through. Do people >actually DO that? (I know they do, but it seems amazing to me) >I’m usually pretty drowsy during the day so I have to take a quick (20 >minute) nap at lunch (when possible) and a major (1 hour) nap after >work. >Sorry for the long post! But that’s my story. I’d appreciate any >comments. >Gracias! >Chicoco
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Chicoco wrote: > > NormC wrote: > > Do you ever urinate during the night time arousals? > Yep- just about every time. And I always drink water everytime I > wake up. > You think THAT could be the reason I wake up so much? My bladder is > telling my brain to wake up and go to the bathroom?? > Chicoco
If you have the urge to urinate (nocturia) when you awaken, it could be due to, among other things, an enlarged prostate or a sleep disorder, like sleep apnea. Also involved in this complex problem is diabetes and resulting bladder problems. You did not indicate how old you are. The older you are……. Even if you don’t have sleep apnea, multiple awakenings to urinate do not contribute to quality sleep. This has been one of my problems I am 67, and week before last I went to a urologist to determine if I had an enlarged prostate. I don’t, but I do have diabetes and the urologist’s diagnosis was a weakened bladder from age and diabetes. He prescribed Flomax that worked well for a few weeks. I will be talking to him again tomorrow.
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el_chic…@yahoo.com (Chicoco) wrote: >> Do you ever urinate during the night time arousals? >Yep- just about every time. And I always drink water everytime I >wake up.
Are you drinking water because your mouth is horribly dry? Frequent nighttime urination and a dry mouth are two very common symptoms of obstructive sleep apnea. >You think THAT could be the reason I wake up so much? My bladder is >telling my brain to wake up and go to the bathroom??
Not quite, see -> http://www.talkaboutsleep.com/news/sa_Urination.htm Tom
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> Are you drinking water because your mouth is horribly dry? Frequent > nighttime urination and a dry mouth are two very common symptoms of > obstructive sleep apnea.
Is dry mouth a result of breathing through mouth……or …….something to do with the same thing that causes the peeing? Beth in oz
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"Tal" <ta…@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> Are you drinking water because your mouth is horribly dry? Frequent >> nighttime urination and a dry mouth are two very common symptoms of >> obstructive sleep apnea. >Is dry mouth a result of breathing through mouth……
I’m not sure what causes the dry mouth, only that it shows up on most of the sleep apnea questionnaires. >or …….something to do with the same thing that causes the peeing?
I don’t think it’s directly related to nocturia. Pre-CPAP, I used to need a glass of water on the headboard when I went to bed, but I only made one bathroom trip at the most. Tom
