results of my sleep test – confusion reigns
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -TrueLotus wrote: > >’m hoping for that myself. I’ll be meeting with my psychiatrist,soon, > >who has been treating me for depression for about the same time frame in > >which, from retrospect, my apnea began > I have a lose/lose possibility. If I don’t take the stuff I get very depressed, > if I do take the stuff, it can lead to sleep apnea which can cause depression. > So, which came first, the chicken or the egg? I don’t know. > And I have no idea how on the earth one can sleep with that octopus on one’s > face. Can you roll over and stuff? > Ari > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*
What "stuff" do you take. Apnea is a physical condition and I don’t think apnea can be induced by medication. Which came first? Probably the apnea but, IANAD. As far as sleeping with the gear, I haven’t had a problem adjusting from day one. Maybe I’m just lucky but there was really no adjustment period. I can lay on either side but, of course, sleeping on my stomach is out. Mostly I sleep on my back anyway. — "I do this really moronic thing that the government doesn’t want me to do. It is called thinking" – George Carlin Remove * * to reply.
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On 16 Nov 2000 20:35:59 GMT, truelo…@aol.com (TrueLotus) wrote: >Well, I got the results of my sleep test and while I lie on my back, I have >obstructive sleep apnea. When I’m lying on my side, I’m below the clinical >number of episodes to constitute apnea. >The other thing that was more interesting to me was that out of the 10 hours I >"slept", according to the graph, I continuously woke up so that the total >amount of time that I slept was only 6 hours. >They told me that this waking up may have to do with the fact that I take 80mg >prozac and 300mg of Wellbutrin but I don’t see how I can go off these meds as >they keep me from serious depressions. >Any comments greatly appreciated which would clear up this mud puddle of >results.
It might be that the depression is because of OSA-associated sleep deprivation…. and in that state, you’re better off on meds. If the OSA is corrected, the need for meds may change (as it did for me) or go away. — On CPAP @ 15 cm since August 1998. Sullivan V blower, MIRAGE mask
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Evidently you were taking antidepressants before your apnea diagnosis? Do you know if you have situational or endogenous depression? I have been taking antipressants for endogenous depression for 15 years. The depression arose from neurological damage arising from exposure to neurotoxins. My internist (specialty nutrition) says, if I understood him correctly, that persons with apnea who have depression, generally have it from the stress and anxiety of knowing the ‘covert’ indicators of the apnea, such as stopping breathing, low blood oxygen, etc I have not yet spoken to my neuropsychiatrist of 15 years, but I looking forward to doing so. However, it appears that neither you nor I got our depression as a result of the apnea diagnosis. Lack of sleep is very bad for someone who is depressed. Did your depression arise from your sleep problems? I don’t have any problem with sleeping. So I remain, as you, bewildered and confused. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -TrueLotus wrote: > Well, I got the results of my sleep test and while I lie on my back, I have > obstructive sleep apnea. When I’m lying on my side, I’m below the clinical > number of episodes to constitute apnea. So, I guess the bottom line was that I > have mild sleep apnea. > The other thing that was more interesting to me was that out of the 10 hours I > "slept", according to the graph, I continuously woke up so that the total > amount of time that I slept was only 6 hours. This may answer the fundamental > question as to why I have to sleep so many hours to feel refreshed. If I sleep > 12 hours I may be sleeping only 8 or 9. These awakenings did not always > correspond with a apnea event but was throughout the evening. > However, to me, I perceived that I never woke up and that I just slept the > whole time until I was awakened at 7am. I am not aware of being awake and > certainly not for 3 hours out of 10! > They told me that this waking up may have to do with the fact that I take 80mg > prozac and 300mg of Wellbutrin but I don’t see how I can go off these meds as > they keep me from serious depressions. > Any comments greatly appreciated which would clear up this mud puddle of > results. > I am going in for a CPAP study but it may get messed up because I’m going to > Africa and right after that I may be moving to Minnesota so I’ll have to change > places I get the study done unless there’s a cancellation before Jan 8th. > Ari > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus > ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*
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truelo…@aol.com (TrueLotus) wrote: >Well, I got the results of my sleep test and while I lie on my back, I have >obstructive sleep apnea. When I’m lying on my side, I’m below the clinical >number of episodes to constitute apnea. So, I guess the bottom line was that I >have mild sleep apnea.
You might try sewing a pocket large enough to hold a tennis ball to the back of a T-shirt, the idea’s to get you sleeping on your side as much as possible until you get your CPAP. >The other thing that was more interesting to me was that out of the 10 hours I >"slept", according to the graph, I continuously woke up so that the total >amount of time that I slept was only 6 hours. This may answer the fundamental >question as to why I have to sleep so many hours to feel refreshed. If I sleep >12 hours I may be sleeping only 8 or 9.
Exactly. > These awakenings did not always >correspond with a apnea event but was throughout the evening.
There are non-obstructive apneas that may not be picked up by standard sleep lab sensors, I seem to be prone to these. Basically, your brain senses that your airway’s about to close and wakes you up to open it. This prevents the obstructive apnea, so it may not be recorded, but it still fragments sleep. CPAP will eliminate this type too. >However, to me, I perceived that I never woke up and that I just slept the >whole time until I was awakened at 7am. I am not aware of being awake and >certainly not for 3 hours out of 10!
None of us are. My "sleep" time dropped 1-2 hours per night when I went on CPAP. I didn’t think I had any trouble sleeping pre-CPAP but I sure can’t argue with the results. >They told me that this waking up may have to do with the fact that I take 80mg >prozac and 300mg of Wellbutrin but I don’t see how I can go off these meds as >they keep me from serious depressions.
Once again, the depression may lift or become less severe once you’re on CPAP. Just wait and see. >I am going in for a CPAP study but it may get messed up because I’m going to >Africa and right after that I may be moving to Minnesota so I’ll have to change >places I get the study done unless there’s a cancellation before Jan 8th.
Just be sure to have all of your test results with you when you move, titration can be done anywhere now that you’ve been diagnosed. Tom – Sick of Spam? Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org
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Frankie wrote: > What "stuff" do you take. Apnea is a physical condition and I don’t > think apnea can be induced by medication.
Without the medication it may be beneath the problem threshold of 10 events an hour in which case, he doesn’t have a problem. With the meds that cause drowsiness however it could raise his apnea score high enough to need xPAP. — Magesteff - "Science is a wonderful thing if one does not have to earn one’s living at it."-Albert Einstein ——————————————————– Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II,
