The CPAP? Doesn't seem to suit everyone!
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Marie , he probably became manic to continue his life, and when he got enough oxygen to give him energy he lost control,, he is a sick man who needs love and counseling,, if you can’t get him help be selfish and take care of marie.. Marie Gobb <mariegobbNOmaS…@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:04608828.9d2e187b@usw-ex0109-068.remarq.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My name is Marie and my husband’s Philippe. We are > french-speaking people (Belgium-Europe). We were a very > happy and loving couple for 28 years. > After some serious problems (apnea), Philippe started using > the CPAP at the end of january 1999. From the very beginning > his behaviour changed. The first two days he used the CPAP > he didn’t stop talking all the time. This was followed by a > physical overexcitement that he tried to calm down by doing > some sport: jogging, cycling… > Along with this he started a diet because he had to lose > some 15 to 20 kilos. As weeks were passing, his behaviour > became more and more ununderstandable and he got very > agressive when talking to me or driving his car. As far as > his professional life is concerned, I don’t know anything. > Sometimes he used to be very depressive, losing confidence > in himself and seeing no future ahead. > After 3 months’treatment I consulted his doctor who didn’t > seem to believe me. My husband’s agressivity won’t then stop > increasing without my being able of doing anything about it. > Six weeks ago, after 13 months of unbearable life, my > husband left our home abandoning me with our son. > Under influence of the CPAP, he lost, it seems to me, every > control of his behaviour, feelings and acts. > The loving, attentive and very kind man I had known had > become somebody very wicked, agressive and repulsing me. > Have you ever known cases where the CPAP has changed a > personnality so deeply and provoked such agressivity? > Please, help me! > * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Marie Gobb wrote: > My name is Marie and my husband’s Philippe. We are > french-speaking people (Belgium-Europe). We were a very > happy and loving couple for 28 years. > After some serious problems (apnea), Philippe started using > the CPAP at the end of january 1999. From the very beginning > his behaviour changed. The first two days he used the CPAP > he didn’t stop talking all the time. This was followed by a > physical overexcitement that he tried to calm down by doing > some sport: jogging, cycling… > Along with this he started a diet because he had to lose > some 15 to 20 kilos. As weeks were passing, his behaviour > became more and more ununderstandable and he got very > agressive when talking to me or driving his car. As far as > his professional life is concerned, I don’t know anything. > Sometimes he used to be very depressive, losing confidence > in himself and seeing no future ahead. > After 3 months’treatment I consulted his doctor who didn’t > seem to believe me. My husband’s agressivity won’t then stop > increasing without my being able of doing anything about it. > Six weeks ago, after 13 months of unbearable life, my > husband left our home abandoning me with our son. > Under influence of the CPAP, he lost, it seems to me, every > control of his behaviour, feelings and acts. > The loving, attentive and very kind man I had known had > become somebody very wicked, agressive and repulsing me. > Have you ever known cases where the CPAP has changed a > personnality so deeply and provoked such agressivity? > Please, help me!
Marie….. I wouldn’t blame the CPAP for the change in your husband. It is very possible that he also had an underlying health problem that was masked by the sleep apnea. Also, if he was on any kind of medication, introduction of CPAP can quickly and dramatically alter the effect. Anyone on CPAP should have a CP that is aware of this and regularly monitor the use of medication and be perpared to change type and/or dosage on very short notice. BTW, how can you not know anything about his professional life? Do you not know anyone that he works with? Introduction of CPAP can also trigger severe emotional changes, both for better and worse due to the rapid changes to metabolism, and the re-introduction of proper oxygen levels. If you still have contact with him, encourage him to get further treatment. If you don’t have much influence on him at this point in time, use your son’s welfare as a connection and encouragement. Good luck Regards, Lee — Lee Babcock Scarborough (Toronto), Ontario, Canada Email —- babco…@idirect.ca
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:31:43 GMT, "ANTHONY BARNES" <AVB…@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >Marie , he probably became manic to continue his life, and when he got >enough oxygen to give him energy he lost control,,
‘became manic to continue his life’? As if it were a decision he made? To compensate somehow for the low energy level caused by the sleep apnea? Pardon me for saying so, but I think that’s a bit of a stretch, as well as a grossly oversimplified understanding of manic illness. Rather, I would strongly suspect a neurological basis for such a profound behavior change as Marie has described. >he is a sick man who >needs love and counseling,, if you can’t get him help be selfish and take >care of marie..
This much, I agree with. Though I would point out that in the United States, the term ’selfish’ has come to carry a positive connotation. I have no way of knowing whether that meaning has crossed the Atlantic to Europe. I think Anthony probably means the word ’selfish’ here to mean ’self-loving’. Marie, Does Phillipe acknowledge that his behavior has changed since the CPAP, with respect to aggression? Are you still in contact with him? What reason has he given for leaving? You mentioned he had been depressed. Was that before treatment with the CPAP, or during the 13 months with it? After you suspected the CPAP of causing the change in him, did you ever ask him to stop using it? Did you ever try to prevent him from using it, to see if his old personality would return? Have any of your husband’s friends or family (brother, sister, parents, aunts, uncles, etc.) observed the same behavior and personality changes you have seen? Have their relationships been affected, too? It is unfortunate that the doctor you consulted with did not believe you. I don’t have a lot in the way of soothing words, but my prayers are with you and your family tonight. –Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Marie Gobb <mariegobbNOmaS…@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote in message >news:04608828.9d2e187b@usw-ex0109-068.remarq.com… >> My name is Marie and my husband’s Philippe. We are >> french-speaking people (Belgium-Europe). We were a very >> happy and loving couple for 28 years. >> After some serious problems (apnea), Philippe started using >> the CPAP at the end of january 1999. From the very beginning >> his behaviour changed. The first two days he used the CPAP >> he didn’t stop talking all the time. This was followed by a >> physical overexcitement that he tried to calm down by doing >> some sport: jogging, cycling… >> Along with this he started a diet because he had to lose >> some 15 to 20 kilos. As weeks were passing, his behaviour >> became more and more ununderstandable and he got very >> agressive when talking to me or driving his car. As far as >> his professional life is concerned, I don’t know anything. >> Sometimes he used to be very depressive, losing confidence >> in himself and seeing no future ahead. >> After 3 months’treatment I consulted his doctor who didn’t >> seem to believe me. My husband’s agressivity won’t then stop >> increasing without my being able of doing anything about it. >> Six weeks ago, after 13 months of unbearable life, my >> husband left our home abandoning me with our son. >> Under influence of the CPAP, he lost, it seems to me, every >> control of his behaviour, feelings and acts. >> The loving, attentive and very kind man I had known had >> become somebody very wicked, agressive and repulsing me. >> Have you ever known cases where the CPAP has changed a >> personnality so deeply and provoked such agressivity? >> Please, help me!
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:01:55 -0500, in alt.support.sleep-disorder Magesteff <mages…@bellsouth.net> wrote: >Marie Gobb wrote: >> The loving, attentive and very kind man I had known had >> become somebody very wicked, agressive and repulsing me. >> Have you ever known cases where the CPAP has changed a >> personnality so deeply and provoked such agressivity? >I am sorry that this did not work out for you. I am not a doctor, but it sounds like your husband had more problems than just Apnea. Was he taking any other >medications at the time? Was he taking diet pills? Is it possible he was taking stronger amphetamines (commonly called SPEED)? Sometimes they can cause >aggressiveness. I do not think that CPAP alone was the cause of his personality change. Speak to his doctor again and please do get some help for yourself in >dealing with this.
I disagree *strongly* with the answer given. Severe obstructive sleep apnea is quite capable of changing someone’s personality. My own personality changed for the worse and was not improved by treatment with CPAP. Indeed my personality continued to change for the worse, as CPAP was not effective for my particular condition. It has only begun to improve since I had a tracheostomy in May 1999. Depression and *extreme* irritability also feature in the lives of several apneics I know. There is no need for any additional factors such as those listed in the answer above. Successful treatment should make a *huge* difference. Treatment that is ineffective or only partially successful will tend not to improve mood. — Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
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Marie Gobb wrote: > The loving, attentive and very kind man I had known had > become somebody very wicked, agressive and repulsing me. > Have you ever known cases where the CPAP has changed a > personnality so deeply and provoked such agressivity?
I am sorry that this did not work out for you. I am not a doctor, but it sounds like your husband had more problems than just Apnea. Was he taking any other medications at the time? Was he taking diet pills? Is it possible he was taking stronger amphetamines (commonly called SPEED)? Sometimes they can cause aggressiveness. I do not think that CPAP alone was the cause of his personality change. Speak to his doctor again and please do get some help for yourself in dealing with this.
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My name is Marie and my husband’s Philippe. We are french-speaking people (Belgium-Europe). We were a very happy and loving couple for 28 years. After some serious problems (apnea), Philippe started using the CPAP at the end of january 1999. From the very beginning his behaviour changed. The first two days he used the CPAP he didn’t stop talking all the time. This was followed by a physical overexcitement that he tried to calm down by doing some sport: jogging, cycling… Along with this he started a diet because he had to lose some 15 to 20 kilos. As weeks were passing, his behaviour became more and more ununderstandable and he got very agressive when talking to me or driving his car. As far as his professional life is concerned, I don’t know anything. Sometimes he used to be very depressive, losing confidence in himself and seeing no future ahead. After 3 months’treatment I consulted his doctor who didn’t seem to believe me. My husband’s agressivity won’t then stop increasing without my being able of doing anything about it. Six weeks ago, after 13 months of unbearable life, my husband left our home abandoning me with our son. Under influence of the CPAP, he lost, it seems to me, every control of his behaviour, feelings and acts. The loving, attentive and very kind man I had known had become somebody very wicked, agressive and repulsing me. Have you ever known cases where the CPAP has changed a personnality so deeply and provoked such agressivity? Please, help me! * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
