Sleep Problems…newbie!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Gillian Joseph wrote: > Lee Babcock <leebabc…@pathcom.com> wrote in message > news:3DE4D86E.A066607A@pathcom.com… > > Gillian…. shame on you! The ‘u’ is not superflous, but in fact is > > proper! Correct pronunciation of English is different for words ending > > in ‘or’ as against those with ‘our’. > Hey, leave me to make fun of my own language, however proper and correct it > might be! ;-) And yes, I know that they’re technically phonetically > different. I’ll go away and hide now…. *grin* > *blushes and shuffles away, quietly pouting* > Incidentally, haven’t had a major jumping-about episode for a week, but woke > up with wrist bruising after a dream in which I was trying to push away from > something coming towards me. Then again, at least my doctor doesn’t make > jokes about my husband chloroforming me and beating me up at night anymore, > as she did when she was stumped by my mysterious bruising! > Gill.
Gill……. you should write down these experiences. Sounds like the plot for a video game! <g> call it ‘Gill kill’em’. Regards Lee in Toronto —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Lee Babcock <leebabc…@pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:3DE544F4.818AC46E@pathcom.com… > Gill……. you should write down these experiences. Sounds like the > plot for a video game! <g> call it ‘Gill kill’em’.
LOL! Yes, but nobody would believe it wasn’t fiction! Anyway, I’m waiting for the flying dreams to start – I live in an old Edwardian house with high staircases right outside my bedroom door. Hope I can take a laptop into traction so I don’t miss my net access. ;-) Gill.
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Gillian Joseph wrote: > Lee Babcock <leebabc…@pathcom.com> wrote in message > news:3DE544F4.818AC46E@pathcom.com… > > Gill……. you should write down these experiences. Sounds like the > > plot for a video game! <g> call it ‘Gill kill’em’. > LOL! Yes, but nobody would believe it wasn’t fiction! Anyway, I’m waiting > for the flying dreams to start – I live in an old Edwardian house with high > staircases right outside my bedroom door. > Hope I can take a laptop into traction so I don’t miss my net access. ;-) > Gill.
Gill……. is this stretching traction or restraint traction? <g> Now a movie; Edwardian house, cold, drafty, strange noises in the night, fair young maiden is tortured on the rack for her evil ways and goes mad during the process. Has the power of ten men and has to be restrained. And this is just the trailer! <vbg> Regards Lee in Toronto —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Lee Babcock <leebabc…@pathcom.com> wrote: > > Yeah, they have the same love of superfluous ‘u’s as we English do. Odd > > habit, but it sticks, you know?? ;-) > Gillian…. shame on you! The ‘u’ is not superflous, but in fact is > proper! Correct pronunciation of English is different for words ending > in ‘or’ as against those with ‘our’.
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"Gillian Joseph" <vel…@vervain.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:arro3c$84r$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk… > Hi there…
)SNIP( > Regards, > Gill Joseph.
S**t, hope you get sorted ! Good luck Carl
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Tom Devlin <tomdev…@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:cb47uu06sfjgc7fl9ej300u7mpa81ia8fu@4ax.com…> > FWIW, using your spelling turned up a number of Google hits, mostly > from Australia.
Yeah, they have the same love of superfluous ‘u’s as we English do. Odd habit, but it sticks, you know?? ;-) > Did she give you tapering-off instructions? I quit Effexor cold > turkey, it probably wasn’t the brightest, or most pleasant, thing I’ve > ever done. 
Yes. I’m on half-dose for a week, then 3 days with nothing, then starting on the clomipramine. I’ll keep you posted on whether or not I get the brain-shakes! > >She’s also going to refer me to a sleep specialist. > Excellent! You have a competent PCP, who knows when she’s in over her > head. I think she’s a keeper.
She’s a good one, alright. Reminds me of a very gentle Scottish primary (grade?) school teacher, but with a stethoscope! > >Also, I’m a little > >concerned about the ‘REM suppressing’ action of clomipramine – isn’t REM > >sleep very important to your mental health? *grin* > Yes… But not diving off beds in the middle of the night might > balance things out. <g>
OK. Good point. I’ll shush now. ;-) > I’ll be perfectly honest here, my "expertise" ends at coming up with a > name and a (possible) treatment. We have other folks who understand > the side effects of various meds, and I hope they’ll join in.
I hope so. I have to admit, I’m a little anxious about coming off the venlafaxine – I have a history of depression, but it’s been extremely well-controlled since I’ve been on this stuff. The idea of discontinuing it and starting on another drug (especially one that might do MORE odd things to my sleeping pattern) is a little disturbing. But we’ll see how it goes. If nothing else, I’m open to ideas and experimentation! Regards, Gill.
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Gillian Joseph wrote: > Yeah, they have the same love of superfluous ‘u’s as we English do. Odd > habit, but it sticks, you know?? ;-)
Gillian…. shame on you! The ‘u’ is not superflous, but in fact is proper! Correct pronunciation of English is different for words ending in ‘or’ as against those with ‘our’. Regards Lee in Toronto —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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Lee Babcock <leebabc…@pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:3DE4D86E.A066607A@pathcom.com… > Gillian…. shame on you! The ‘u’ is not superflous, but in fact is > proper! Correct pronunciation of English is different for words ending > in ‘or’ as against those with ‘our’.
Hey, leave me to make fun of my own language, however proper and correct it might be! ;-) And yes, I know that they’re technically phonetically different. I’ll go away and hide now…. *grin* *blushes and shuffles away, quietly pouting* Incidentally, haven’t had a major jumping-about episode for a week, but woke up with wrist bruising after a dream in which I was trying to push away from something coming towards me. Then again, at least my doctor doesn’t make jokes about my husband chloroforming me and beating me up at night anymore, as she did when she was stumped by my mysterious bruising! Gill.
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> Yeah, they have the same love of superfluous ‘u’s as we English do. Odd > habit, but it sticks, you know?? ;-)
acutally, us Aussies tend to use a mixture of both – i have been known to use both options in the same sentance LOL — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles
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"Gillian Joseph" <vel…@vervain.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >> That sounds like REM Behavior Disorder, it’s usually treated with >> clonazepam. http://www.sleepdisorderchannel.net/rem/ >Well I went to the doc today, and she was a little stumped but yes, REM >Behaviour (I’m one of those dodgy English types, pardon the spelling *g*) >Disorder DOES sound exactly like what’s been happening to me.
FWIW, using your spelling turned up a number of Google hits, mostly from Australia. >I’ve been on venlafaxine (Effexor) for some time, and she’s now stopping >this and putting me on clomipramine instead, in case the venlafaxine’s >making the problem worse.
Did she give you tapering-off instructions? I quit Effexor cold turkey, it probably wasn’t the brightest, or most pleasant, thing I’ve ever done. >She’s also going to refer me to a sleep specialist.
Excellent! You have a competent PCP, who knows when she’s in over her head. I think she’s a keeper. >In the notes I’ve read for venlafaxine it states ’sleep disturbances’ as one >of the possible side effects, but doesn’t elaborate any more than that. >Anyone know if it’s known to cause this problem? Also, I’m a little >concerned about the ‘REM suppressing’ action of clomipramine – isn’t REM >sleep very important to your mental health? *grin*
Yes… But not diving off beds in the middle of the night might balance things out. <g> >Thanks for the answer, Tom – it’s good to have someone to talk to about >this. :-)
I’ll be perfectly honest here, my "expertise" ends at coming up with a name and a (possible) treatment. We have other folks who understand the side effects of various meds, and I hope they’ll join in. Tom
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Hi there… This is just a quick thing, but I was hoping someone could compare notes with me. I’ve scanned recent messages but couldn’t find anything similar (that’s not to say there WASN’T anything, I’m exhausted these days! *grin*). Basically I’ve been waking up with unexplained bruises for a while, and I might have worked out why. I have a history of severe myoclonic spasms, vivid nightmares and insomnia, but in the last few months I’ve been waking up shouting more than usual. Sometimes I find myself sitting up in bed and not quite sure where the dream ends and reality begins! Then, last week, my husband was woken by my screams and shouting, and shortly afterwards I sat up, crawled over him, jumped high in the air and landed on one knee on the floor. I don’t remember any of this, only the extremely vivid dream that accompanied it – which was about me trying to escape from a falling building. Before anyone asks, no I didn’t break anything but I’m literally PURPLE all the way down one knee, and have bruising to the spine and pelvis! *grin* Anyway, it took my husband quite some time to wake me, at which point I was apparently very confused and wanted to go back to sleep. Since he sleeps extremely deeply, I’m wondering if my previous overnight bruises could have been caused by my having similar experiences but on my own side of the bed… I’m seeing the doctor (at a nurse’s suggestion) tomorrow afternoon, since she was concerned I’d injure myself more seriously if this behaviour was allowed to continue. OK, that’s about it! If anyone has any advice or similar experiences I’d be very grateful to hear them. Sorry for bothering you in the first instance with such a long post, but I’m a little anxious for all this disturbance to stop. For a start, it means I’m exhausted and bruised a lot of the time! *grin* Regards, Gill Joseph.
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"Gillian Joseph" <vel…@vervain.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >Basically I’ve been waking up with unexplained bruises for a while, and I >might have worked out why. I have a history of severe myoclonic spasms, >vivid nightmares and insomnia, but in the last few months I’ve been waking >up shouting more than usual. Sometimes I find myself sitting up in bed and >not quite sure where the dream ends and reality begins! Then, last week, my >husband was woken by my screams and shouting, and shortly afterwards I sat >up, crawled over him, jumped high in the air and landed on one knee on the >floor. I don’t remember any of this, only the extremely vivid dream that >accompanied it – which was about me trying to escape from a falling >building.
That sounds like REM Behavior Disorder, it’s usually treated with clonazepam. http://www.sleepdisorderchannel.net/rem/ Tom
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Tom Devlin <tomdev…@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:ffl4uu4pd02fu6jahfknpkidthb4fe0nog@4ax.com… > "Gillian Joseph" <vel…@vervain.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >Basically I’ve been waking up with unexplained bruises for a while <snipsnip!> > >I sat up, crawled over him, jumped high in the air and landed on one knee on the > >floor. I don’t remember any of this, only the extremely vivid dream that > >accompanied it – which was about me trying to escape from a falling > >building. > That sounds like REM Behavior Disorder, it’s usually treated with > clonazepam. http://www.sleepdisorderchannel.net/rem/
Well I went to the doc today, and she was a little stumped but yes, REM Behaviour (I’m one of those dodgy English types, pardon the spelling *g*) Disorder DOES sound exactly like what’s been happening to me. The doc looked through my notes to reports of severe unexplained bruising and reckons that this has been going on for a while, given the other symptoms. I’ve been on venlafaxine (Effexor) for some time, and she’s now stopping this and putting me on clomipramine instead, in case the venlafaxine’s making the problem worse. She’s also going to refer me to a sleep specialist. In the notes I’ve read for venlafaxine it states ’sleep disturbances’ as one of the possible side effects, but doesn’t elaborate any more than that. Anyone know if it’s known to cause this problem? Also, I’m a little concerned about the ‘REM suppressing’ action of clomipramine – isn’t REM sleep very important to your mental health? *grin* Thanks for the answer, Tom – it’s good to have someone to talk to about this. :-) Regards, Gill.
