Embarassing problem
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I’ve started experiencing problems with urge incontinence at night. One night last week I woke up as I was losing a little urine, but last night (actually 6:00 AM this morning) I woke up soaking myself. Do I just need to do my Kegels, or is there something else I should be looking into? I’m on several meds now and a mess of supplements. Does anyone know if there’s any link to anything one can ingest? I take daily: Zoloft, Atenalol, Metformin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, vitamin E, alpha lipoic acid, Centrum multi-vitamin, baby aspirin, folic acid. I take as needed: Imitrex, naproxyn, Allegra, ibuprofen, buffered aspirin, dyphenhydramine, melatonin, pseudoephedrine. I think that’s it. I have occasional problems with stress incontinence, but aside from once about a year or two ago, this is the first time I’ve had nocturnal problems since I was 8 years old. Thanks! Priscilla
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Priscilla H Ballou <p…@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in news:c3a9eh$hkl$1@pcls4.std.com: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve started experiencing problems with urge incontinence at night. > One night last week I woke up as I was losing a little urine, but last > night (actually 6:00 AM this morning) I woke up soaking myself. > Do I just need to do my Kegels, or is there something else I should be > looking into? I’m on several meds now and a mess of supplements. > Does anyone know if there’s any link to anything one can ingest? I > take daily: Zoloft, Atenalol, Metformin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, > vitamin E, alpha lipoic acid, Centrum multi-vitamin, baby aspirin, > folic acid. I take as needed: Imitrex, naproxyn, Allegra, ibuprofen, > buffered aspirin, dyphenhydramine, melatonin, pseudoephedrine. I > think that’s it. > I have occasional problems with stress incontinence, but aside from > once about a year or two ago, this is the first time I’ve had > nocturnal problems since I was 8 years old.
Is your period coming up? That’s when I get a little incontinence, and stressing the Kegels a bit usually clears it right up. Otherwise, I just try to wear the appropriate protection (yuck). Chakolate — Not to be absolutely certain is, I think, one of the essential things in rationality. –Bertrand Russell
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Chakolate <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@allvantage.com> quoth: >Is your period coming up? That’s when I get a little incontinence, and >stressing the Kegels a bit usually clears it right up. Otherwise, I just >try to wear the appropriate protection (yuck).
It started a couple of days after the first incident, and it’s just winding down now. So there’s diluted blood to be washed out of stuff, not just urine. *sigh* Those Always overnights hold a lot, but not a pint! Priscilla
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"Priscilla H Ballou" <p…@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message news:c3a9eh$hkl$1@pcls4.std.com… > I’ve started experiencing problems with urge incontinence at night. One > night last week I woke up as I was losing a little urine, but last night > (actually 6:00 AM this morning) I woke up soaking myself. > Do I just need to do my Kegels, or is there something else I should be > looking into? I’m on several meds now and a mess of supplements. Does > anyone know if there’s any link to anything one can ingest? I take daily: > Zoloft, Atenalol, Metformin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, vitamin E, alpha > lipoic acid, Centrum multi-vitamin, baby aspirin, folic acid. I take as > needed: Imitrex, naproxyn, Allegra, ibuprofen, buffered aspirin, > dyphenhydramine, melatonin, pseudoephedrine. I think that’s it. > I have occasional problems with stress incontinence, but aside from once > about a year or two ago, this is the first time I’ve had nocturnal > problems since I was 8 years old.
Arghhh; major annoying. On the very off-chance: have you checked the PDR (&/or package inserts) for the prescription meds you’re on, just in case the development of lack of bladder muscle control is one of the possible adverse side affects for any of them? Cathy — "Staccato signals of constant information…" ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks! > Priscilla
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>Do I just need to do my Kegels,
Can’t hurt doing those. Sorry I can’t be of any better help! Here’s hoping you get it sorted. Cheers, helen s –This is an invalid email address to avoid spam– to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o**l.c**$*$om$$
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Cathy Friedmann <c…@adelphia.net> quoth: >Arghhh; major annoying. On the very off-chance: have you checked the PDR >(&/or package inserts) for the prescription meds you’re on, just in case the >development of lack of bladder muscle control is one of the possible adverse >side affects for any of them?
I hadn’t noticed it on first time through, and I’ve been googling for various combinations of terms including medication names and incontinence. Priscilla
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Susan <suf…@aol.comnospam> quoth: >x-no-archive: yes >Kegelkegelkegelkegel. Can’t say that enough. At the computer, watching TV, on >the bus, etc… >Multitask. :-)
OK! I am kegeling as I type! Priscilla
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>OK! I am kegeling as I type! >Priscilla
I am woman! I *can* multitask! Cheers, helen s 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: Priscilla H Ballou >I’ve started experiencing problems with urge incontinence at night. One >night last week I woke up as I was losing a little urine, but last night >(actually 6:00 AM this morning) I woke up soaking myself. >Do I just need to do my Kegels, or is there something else I should be >looking into? I’m on several meds now and a mess of supplements. Does >anyone know if there’s any link to anything one can ingest? I take daily: >Zoloft, Atenalol, Metformin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, vitamin E, alpha >lipoic acid, Centrum multi-vitamin, baby aspirin, folic acid. I take as >needed: Imitrex, naproxyn, Allegra, ibuprofen, buffered aspirin, >dyphenhydramine, melatonin, pseudoephedrine. I think that’s it. >I have occasional problems with stress incontinence, but aside from once >about a year or two ago, this is the first time I’ve had nocturnal >problems since I was 8 years old.
It might pass with time. I didn’t have the incontinence at night..mine was during the day…and the problem did pass. Do you quit taking in liquids a few hours before bedtime? Sharon……..Don’t think of it as getting hot flashes. Think of it as your inner child playing with matches.
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Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comatose> quoth: >It might pass with time. I didn’t have the incontinence at night..mine was >during the day…and the problem did pass. Do you quit taking in liquids a few >hours before bedtime?
I know that will help, but I’ve always woken up with a full bladder plus I often woke up to pee in the night. The difference now is that I’m not waking up! :-0 I actually used to sometimes deliberately drink a glass of water before I went to bed if I knew I would have trouble getting up in the morning but really needed NOT to laze around hitting the snooze bar. I’m told that’s a very old fashioned alarm clock. The legend goes that that was how Native Americans got themselves to get up early to go hunting. Dunno ’bout them, but it worked for me. Past tense. :-( Priscilla
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In article <7cph50tj70vgtl9kv2qvk7cm0qclid3…@4ax.com>, ratatosk <ratatosk@don’tbother.a2000.nl> wrote: > Is it possible you sleep to deep and don’t wake up to go to the toilet > because you are to tired?
I haven’t been sleeping any differently than for the past 40+ years lately. Priscilla
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ratatosk wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 23:07:39 +0000 (UTC), Priscilla H Ballou > <p…@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote: >>Frankenmel <franken…@aol.comatose> quoth: >>>It might pass with time. I didn’t have the incontinence at night..mine was >>>during the day…and the problem did pass. Do you quit taking in liquids a few >>>hours before bedtime? >>I know that will help, but I’ve always woken up with a full bladder plus I >>often woke up to pee in the night. The difference now is that I’m not >>waking up! :-0 >>I actually used to sometimes deliberately drink a glass of water before I >>went to bed if I knew I would have trouble getting up in the morning but >>really needed NOT to laze around hitting the snooze bar. I’m told that’s >>a very old fashioned alarm clock. The legend goes that that was how >>Native Americans got themselves to get up early to go hunting. Dunno >>’bout them, but it worked for me. Past tense. :-( > Is it possible you sleep to deep and don’t wake up to go to the toilet > because you are to tired?
That used to happen to me and when I did wake up and have to go, I would barely make it to the bathroom. Now with the arthritis in my hip, it sometimes takes more time then normal to stand up during the night, so I wear a pad just in case. sue
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Susan <suf…@aol.comnospam> quoth: >x-no-archive: yes >Priscilla, is neurogenic bladder a complication of diabetes? My child >developed a problem during Lyme illness with not feeling the need to pee while >awake until it started to leak out. In that case, doxycycline cleared it up >for good.
Oh, I know when I need to pee. There’s no problem there. >In the case of diabetes involvement, if any, I’d kegel like crazy,
I’ve put that into practice. >maybe shoot >for lower bg targets.
Nope. I don’t live in the house of deprivation, and I have no evidence this is connected to BG. >And exercise, dammit.
Oh, shut up. ;-) Priscilla
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Susan <suf…@aol.comnospam> quoth: >x-no-archive: yes >In article <c3cimn$a5…@pcls4.std.com>, Priscilla H Ballou ><p…@shell01.TheWorld.com> writes: >>Oh, I know when I need to pee. There’s no problem there. >Okay, but the sensation isn’t strong enough at night?
It hardly seems like time for generalizations when n=2 and no more than that. >Have you considered a >sleep study, to test for apnea? REM sleep disorder is associated with >nighttime enuresis.
If it persists, then I’ll start looking for zebras. Right now I’m content that it’s peri-related. Priscilla
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Susan <suf…@aol.comnospam> quoth: >x-no-archive: yes >In article <c3cimn$a5…@pcls4.std.com>, Priscilla H Ballou ><p…@shell01.TheWorld.com> writes: >>Nope. I don’t live in the house of deprivation, and I have no evidence >>this is connected to BG. >P.S. A very brief google does show a connection between diabetes and enuresis. >If this could be the cause (TBD by you and your endo), and you don’t want to >lower bg with more stringent dieting, then perhaps more meds? >Oh, and did I mention exercise? ;-)
Susan, I mean this in the nicest way, but please lay off. Priscilla
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suf…@aol.comnospam (Susan ) wrote in news:20040318115246.23307.00007371@mb-m29.aol.com: > P.S. A very brief google does show a connection between diabetes and > enuresis. If this could be the cause (TBD by you and your endo), and > you don’t want to lower bg with more stringent dieting, then perhaps > more meds?
But Priscilla’s diabetes is recently diagnosed and under good control, and usually complications of diabetes arise after years of poor control. So I’m inclined to think that may be a bit of a reach. > Oh, and did I mention exercise? ;-)
Careful, Susan. Lest ye find your life (and your head) strewn with bumps. Chakolate — Not to be absolutely certain is, I think, one of the essential things in rationality. –Bertrand Russell
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I’ve had very small similar problems from time to time; never full out wetting myself… I’m not sure about this problem in relation to interaction with any of your meds however I do know that aspirin and ibuprofen should NOT be taken at the same time. Only one thing at a time; ie: aspirin, ibuprofen, or Tylenol but no two together. Very, very bad for the kidneys and liver. You risk renal failure doing that. Have you talked with your primary care physician about all the meds you’re on? That’s the best thing you can do. My doc prescribes all my meds, of which there are many, too, and he can always tell me about any possible harmful interactions. You need to tell him all the supplements you’re on as well. VW "Priscilla H Ballou" <p…@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message news:c3a9eh$hkl$1@pcls4.std.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve started experiencing problems with urge incontinence at night. One > night last week I woke up as I was losing a little urine, but last night > (actually 6:00 AM this morning) I woke up soaking myself. > Do I just need to do my Kegels, or is there something else I should be > looking into? I’m on several meds now and a mess of supplements. Does > anyone know if there’s any link to anything one can ingest? I take daily: > Zoloft, Atenalol, Metformin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, vitamin E, alpha > lipoic acid, Centrum multi-vitamin, baby aspirin, folic acid. I take as > needed: Imitrex, naproxyn, Allegra, ibuprofen, buffered aspirin, > dyphenhydramine, melatonin, pseudoephedrine. I think that’s it. > I have occasional problems with stress incontinence, but aside from once > about a year or two ago, this is the first time I’ve had nocturnal > problems since I was 8 years old. > Thanks! > Priscilla
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VW <yas…@youbetcha.com> quoth: >I’ve had very small similar problems from time to time; never full out >wetting myself… >I’m not sure about this problem in relation to interaction with any of your >meds however I do know that aspirin and ibuprofen should NOT be taken at the >same time. Only one thing at a time; ie: aspirin, ibuprofen, or Tylenol but >no two together. Very, very bad for the kidneys and liver. You risk renal >failure doing that.
Not really. It can be very helpful to combine two in certain cases — or Excedrin would have been pulled off the market decades ago. But I don’t usually. >Have you talked with your primary care physician about all the meds you’re >on? That’s the best thing you can do. My doc prescribes all my meds, of >which there are many, too, and he can always tell me about any possible >harmful interactions. You need to tell him all the supplements you’re on as >well.
I see no need to involve the pros unless it really becomes a problem and kegels don’t take care of it. I was just asking if anyone knew anything. Unfortunately, my PCP is an idiot, and I haven’t got a new one yet, so I’m not asking her for any information, only for things I know I need. Most of my meds are prescribed by specialists, and I keep them up-to-date on what the others are prescribing. We haven’t had any interaction problems so far. If this isn’t just one of those peri things, I was thinking it might be one of those known but not publicized side effects of higher doses of Zoloft or metformin. The best way to find out about those is to ask other consumers, IME. So far, low-tech is most helpful — sleeping with as empty a bladder as I can and doing my kegels. Thanks anyway. Priscilla
