What this mean: Woke suddenly from REM
Question:
I know nothing about sleep phases. I took a second sleep study to set the air rate, or whatever it’s called. The tech told me I woke immediately from REM when she upped the rate to 13. The CPAP unit was set higher than the bed and the humidifier was spitting through the tube. As I lay there awake I found myself growing anxious. I finally pulled the mask off. I’m sure not a sissy but putting that mask on felt really forboding. The water spitting hadn’t stopped and the tech wouldn’t turn off the humidifier. It felt like I was trying to breathe in a hurricane. I lay there getting more anxious every time I picked up the mask to put it back on. The tech promised to turn it back to 11 until I slept again, but even that assurance left me anxious. She finally decided I was going to flip out and called the procedure done. She said she’s presuming I’m going to need 13. So, is it unusual or somehow telling that I woke so suddenly? How do I interprete this?
Response:
> I know nothing about sleep phases. I took a second sleep study to set the > air rate, or whatever it’s called. The tech told me I woke immediately from > REM when she upped the rate to 13.
there are basically five sleep stages. stage 1 & 2 are light sleep, stages 3 & 4 are deep sleep (also referred to as slow wave sleep – sws) and REM – REM is the stage where you dream. Did you remember dreaming anything when you woke up that time? we usually forget dreams almost immediately. I guess it was your body’s way of saying "hey, something’s going on here" when it detected the higher pressure during your sleep. Your body does adjust to different pressures as it needs to though. > The CPAP unit was set higher than the bed and the humidifier was > spitting through the tube. As I lay there awake I found myself growing > anxious. I finally pulled the mask off. > I’m sure not a sissy but putting that mask on felt really forboding. The > water spitting hadn’t stopped and the tech wouldn’t turn off the humidifier. > It felt like I was trying to breathe in a hurricane
it makes me so angry to hear stories like this. What you experienced is called "rainout" when the humidifier temp is too high in comparisson to the temp of the room causing the water to condense in the mask and tubing. The best solution is to turn the temp of the humidifier down. The sleep tech should NEVER have made you use the humidifier at a level where it was causing rainout and making you feel uncomfortable (not to mention wet!). Your comment about the humidifer being higher than the bed also amazes me……logical thinking means you put it at a lower level than the person it’s attached to. You weren’t being a sissy at all, even if it hadn’t been for the rainout you may have still felt a bit uncomfortable, it’s not uncommon, afterall it’s not natural to sleep with something covering your face! It is something that almost everybody gets used to however, most pretty quickly. there are some suggestions on the newsgroup website that may help with issues like that at http://talhost.net/sleep/cpap.htm > I lay there getting more anxious every time I picked up the mask to put > it back on. The tech promised to turn it back to 11 until I slept again, but > even that assurance left me anxious. She finally decided I was going to flip > out and called the procedure done. She said she’s presuming I’m going to > need 13.
That doesn’t sound good enough to me….. with CPAP "near enough" isn’t usually good enough. But then without knowing all the details of what information they managed to detect it’s hard to say whether it was reasonable for them to quit like that or not. > So, is it unusual or somehow telling that I woke so suddenly? How do I > interprete this?
I’m not sure it’s unusual to react to an increase in pressure, there could have even been a combination of factors that made you wake up at that point in time. I wouldn’t let it concern you too much. When will you get your CPAP? — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://talhost.net/sleep this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles Remove my name to reply
Response:
Thanks for your thoughtful answers. And, the link for more information. I don’t know when I’ll get my CPAP. Maybe never if I’m required to do a third sleep test. These costs add up. Thanks again. "Tal" <sleepbethdisord…@anchorweb.com.au> wrote in message
news:bc7qp4$f458q$1@ID-148111.news.dfncis.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> When will you get your CPAP? > — > Beth in Australia > =================== > FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here > http://talhost.net/sleep > this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles > Remove my name to reply
