Margrove
Question:
:: Lately I’ve been clenching my jaw again. What works really well for "me" when I am going through a phase of jaw clenching is to chew gum. Give it a try, it may help 
That’s a no no for me. If I’m not clenching my jaw, I will be after chewing gum! Actually by chewing gum I often get RLS in my jaw. My RLS has no limits on what part of my body it affects. Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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:: Lately I’ve been clenching my jaw again. What works really well for "me" when I am going through a phase of jaw clenching is to chew gum. Give it a try, it may help Jackie ~*~I may not be perfectly beautiful, I may not be perfectly wise, I may not be perfectly obedient, but I am perfectly me~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work. That may not be P/C, but it was funny as hell!!!!! By the way, I think I know exactly how you held your hand. I think I’ve done the same thing but am able to stop it (mostly) if anyone is around to see. Tono Well this may appear twice, Google wouldn’t work when I tried the last time.. Tono, Glad you’re amused at the fact I am all gimped out with my hand, LOL. It IS funny looking, if you think it’s funny sounding you should SEE me. I didn’t mean your actual condition was funny at all, I meant the Bob Dole remark. Here’s the update…. After reading Gary’s post on calming physical tension, I decided to try something. Instead of using my tape, I just held my arm and my hand tightly for a full count of 30. Voila! It worked! Like really well and for a good amount of time. I just hadn’t been tensing my muscles LONG enough for it to really have an effect on me. Oh thank God! Now, no amount of tensing or relaxing in any kind of pose alleviates the stuff with my neck, I’m still going back and forth, but that’s just fine. My main concern was this weird hand thingy. Not only did I stop holding my hand funny, but I feel SO much more relaxed. Not "clenched" all the time. I may have to do this several times a day til I break the habit, but I’m just glad for a little relief. That sounds great Sally! Keep up the good work! Tono Tono, No offense taken, I easily laugh at myself anyway.. and yes, it is SUCH a relief to be able to relax a little. I found that today I was clenching and unclinching both fists, but the relaxation method works great. Sally Good to hear. Lately I’ve been clenching my jaw again. Luckily I don’t grind my teeth. I’ll have to try that relaxation method myself. For some reason I don’t think I’ve tried it for my jaw? Tono
To the dismay of my dentist, I AM a teeth grinder. Anything to do with anxiety, and I’m there. I tried the relaxation technique on my jaw and it helped alot. Another thing that helps is massaging your jaw line lightly with your hand. I got that from a Yoga instructor. It’s amazing how much tension we hold in our jaw. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you
The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work. That may not be P/C, but it was funny as hell!!!!! By the way, I think I know exactly how you held your hand. I think I’ve done the same thing but am able to stop it (mostly) if anyone is around to see. Tono Well this may appear twice, Google wouldn’t work when I tried the last time.. Tono, Glad you’re amused at the fact I am all gimped out with my hand, LOL. It IS funny looking, if you think it’s funny sounding you should SEE me.
I didn’t mean your actual condition was funny at all, I meant the Bob Dole remark. Here’s the update…. After reading Gary’s post on calming physical tension, I decided to try something. Instead of using my tape, I just held my arm and my hand tightly for a full count of 30. Voila! It worked! Like really well and for a good amount of time. I just hadn’t been tensing my muscles LONG enough for it to really have an effect on me. Oh thank God! Now, no amount of tensing or relaxing in any kind of pose alleviates the stuff with my neck, I’m still going back and forth, but that’s just fine. My main concern was this weird hand thingy. Not only did I stop holding my hand funny, but I feel SO much more relaxed. Not "clenched" all the time. I may have to do this several times a day til I break the habit, but I’m just glad for a little relief.
That sounds great Sally! Keep up the good work! Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work. That may not be P/C, but it was funny as hell!!!!! By the way, I think I know exactly how you held your hand. I think I’ve done the same thing but am able to stop it (mostly) if anyone is around to see. Tono Well this may appear twice, Google wouldn’t work when I tried the last time.. Tono, Glad you’re amused at the fact I am all gimped out with my hand, LOL. It IS funny looking, if you think it’s funny sounding you should SEE me. I didn’t mean your actual condition was funny at all, I meant the Bob Dole remark. Here’s the update…. After reading Gary’s post on calming physical tension, I decided to try something. Instead of using my tape, I just held my arm and my hand tightly for a full count of 30. Voila! It worked! Like really well and for a good amount of time. I just hadn’t been tensing my muscles LONG enough for it to really have an effect on me. Oh thank God! Now, no amount of tensing or relaxing in any kind of pose alleviates the stuff with my neck, I’m still going back and forth, but that’s just fine. My main concern was this weird hand thingy. Not only did I stop holding my hand funny, but I feel SO much more relaxed. Not "clenched" all the time. I may have to do this several times a day til I break the habit, but I’m just glad for a little relief. That sounds great Sally! Keep up the good work! Tono
Tono, No offense taken, I easily laugh at myself anyway.. and yes, it is SUCH a relief to be able to relax a little. I found that today I was clenching and unclinching both fists, but the relaxation method works great. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work. That may not be P/C, but it was funny as hell!!!!! By the way, I think I know exactly how you held your hand. I think I’ve done the same thing but am able to stop it (mostly) if anyone is around to see. Tono Well this may appear twice, Google wouldn’t work when I tried the last time.. Tono, Glad you’re amused at the fact I am all gimped out with my hand, LOL. It IS funny looking, if you think it’s funny sounding you should SEE me. I didn’t mean your actual condition was funny at all, I meant the Bob Dole remark. Here’s the update…. After reading Gary’s post on calming physical tension, I decided to try something. Instead of using my tape, I just held my arm and my hand tightly for a full count of 30. Voila! It worked! Like really well and for a good amount of time. I just hadn’t been tensing my muscles LONG enough for it to really have an effect on me. Oh thank God! Now, no amount of tensing or relaxing in any kind of pose alleviates the stuff with my neck, I’m still going back and forth, but that’s just fine. My main concern was this weird hand thingy. Not only did I stop holding my hand funny, but I feel SO much more relaxed. Not "clenched" all the time. I may have to do this several times a day til I break the habit, but I’m just glad for a little relief. That sounds great Sally! Keep up the good work! Tono Tono, No offense taken, I easily laugh at myself anyway.. and yes, it is SUCH a relief to be able to relax a little. I found that today I was clenching and unclinching both fists, but the relaxation method works great. Sally
Good to hear. Lately I’ve been clenching my jaw again. Luckily I don’t grind my teeth. I’ll have to try that relaxation method myself. For some reason I don’t think I’ve tried it for my jaw? Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand?
Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work.
That may not be P/C, but it was funny as hell!!!!! By the way, I think I know exactly how you held your hand. I think I’ve done the same thing but am able to stop it (mostly) if anyone is around to see. Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? Well you might, but I’ll try and tell you how I hold my hand. My wrist is down as far as it will go toward my arm, and my fingers touch my thumb, but it’s not a fist. Sort of like I’m going to snap my fingers. I don’t know if I described it well or not, but it looks really stupid. I have found that if I hold something in my left hand (the hand that does this strange thing) that I don’t do it. I could walk around holding a pen like Bob Dole. That would work. That may not be P/C, but it was funny as hell!!!!! By the way, I think I know exactly how you held your hand. I think I’ve done the same thing but am able to stop it (mostly) if anyone is around to see. Tono
Well this may appear twice, Google wouldn’t work when I tried the last time.. Tono, Glad you’re amused at the fact I am all gimped out with my hand, LOL. It IS funny looking, if you think it’s funny sounding you should SEE me. Here’s the update…. After reading Gary’s post on calming physical tension, I decided to try something. Instead of using my tape, I just held my arm and my hand tightly for a full count of 30. Voila! It worked! Like really well and for a good amount of time. I just hadn’t been tensing my muscles LONG enough for it to really have an effect on me. Oh thank God! Now, no amount of tensing or relaxing in any kind of pose alleviates the stuff with my neck, I’m still going back and forth, but that’s just fine. My main concern was this weird hand thingy. Not only did I stop holding my hand funny, but I feel SO much more relaxed. Not "clenched" all the time. I may have to do this several times a day til I break the habit, but I’m just glad for a little relief. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you The progressive relaxation helps for a little bit, but not for long… I forgot to mention that Cogentin doesn’t alleviate my symptoms either. I have to wait a whole month before I see my pdoc again! AAAAAaaagh! And yes, LM that’s exactly how I move my head, back and forth like I was listening to music. The head stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the hand stuff. One hospice nurse thought I was disabled by the way I was holding my hand! (I am, but it’s not my hand that’s disabled). Sigh Sally
how do you hold your hand? Or was it I want to hold your hand? — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep. Sounds like an essential tremor. My father has it in his hands (can barely write) and his head nods back and forth. Essential tremors often are relieved temporarily by alcohol (don’t recommend in your case). It is made worse by anxiety. docs usually start with a beta blocker, like Inderal. A neurologist should be able to diagnose the cause of the tremor, Sally. Chip My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally Chip, I don’t know if this is it or not. My symptoms didn’t abate while I was drinking. Nothing, outside of sleep, gives me any relief. No drugs. No alcohol (I swear, I’d drink if that would actually help, but it doesn’t). I may have to make an appointment with my internist, but I doubt he can help. I’m sure this is some kind of psychological reaction to my mom’s death. It’s driving me nuts. Sally try progressive relaxation excercises Jackie has posted them but if you want I can type one out for you-it is most often best if you can have someone with a soothing voice tape one of these or buy one on rebt.org–a good one is by Arnold Lazarus who has a very nice basso voice–I am sure this is just an anxious event that has become a habit-like a twitch, or like that kid we all knew in school who rolled his eyes or had this facial tick when he was inervated. I hate having my eyes examined–it is a long story going back to some childhood trauma-so when the doc gets close to my face with the goinoscope my head twiches-or rather my neck does this wiggle waggle I can only assume is my bodies way of trying to get away from him–without being too analytical–what are you trying to get away from that you can’t face–I know I know, it’s a big leap from cbt, but sometimes–it just makes some sense
Hey YOU! You just unmasked yourself as a *closet psychoanalyst*. I’m going to tell your uncle Albert (who said something like this about himself BTW). P. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit-
Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip
not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties-I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Margrove, Do you think an extrapyramidal reaction to an antipsychotic is possible? Also the head rocking/nodding made me think of akathesia. Chip not when she said that relaxation abates it to a degree -and also because it is her neck and not her tongue or jaw, and that I don’t think she is on a chronic dose or especially high dose of haldol-ssri induced akathesia usually starts in extremeties
I got restless legs syndrome (supposedly a form of akathesia) after I increased the dose of my Zoloft about 10 years ago. My psych told me to cut back the dose, I did, and it went away quickly. -I haven’t seen any extrapyramidal stuff with buspar, I suppose anything is possible Just have this image of her rockin her head like you might hum a tune–to distract you from something that scares you
I have the image of my father’s head nodding back and forth with essential tremor. His mother had the same thing. Thanks for the feedback, Jimi 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep. Sounds like an essential tremor. My father has it in his hands (can barely write) and his head nods back and forth. Essential tremors often are relieved temporarily by alcohol (don’t recommend in your case). It is made worse by anxiety. docs usually start with a beta blocker, like Inderal. A neurologist should be able to diagnose the cause of the tremor, Sally. Chip My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally Chip, I don’t know if this is it or not. My symptoms didn’t abate while I was drinking. Nothing, outside of sleep, gives me any relief. No drugs. No alcohol (I swear, I’d drink if that would actually help, but it doesn’t). I may have to make an appointment with my internist, but I doubt he can help. I’m sure this is some kind of psychological reaction to my mom’s death. It’s driving me nuts. Sally try progressive relaxation excercises Jackie has posted them but if you want I can type one out for you-it is most often best if you can have someone with a soothing voice tape one of these or buy one on rebt.org–a good one is by Arnold Lazarus who has a very nice basso voice–I am sure this is just an anxious event that has become a habit-like a twitch, or like that kid we all knew in school who rolled his eyes or had this facial tick when he was inervated. I hate having my eyes examined–it is a long story going back to some childhood trauma-so when the doc gets close to my face with the goinoscope my head twiches-or rather my neck does this wiggle waggle I can only assume is my bodies way of trying to get away from him–without being too analytical–what are you trying to get away from that you can’t face–I know I know, it’s a big leap from cbt, but sometimes–it just makes some sense
I saw a specialist in CBT long enough for him to make a tape for me using the progressive relaxation exersize. (I became psychotic in the middle of our sessions and he refused to see me anymore). Everything in my house is boxed up, ready to move, so I’ll try to find the tape, but that may be next to impossible. I’ll google Jackie’s post. BTW, this boy in high school had a crush on me and he had a severe facial tick and what I would call an exaggerated case of GAD. Turned out the poor thing had a brain tumor and DIED one summer between school years. I still think of him sometimes. Glad YOU didn’t ask me what it was, I had no clue, and furthermore, I have the same thing about optometrists examining my eyes. My God, why don’t they figure out a better way to examine an eye than to get thisclose to your face. I HATE that. Thank you for answering. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep. Sounds like an essential tremor. My father has it in his hands (can barely write) and his head nods back and forth. Essential tremors often are relieved temporarily by alcohol (don’t recommend in your case). It is made worse by anxiety. docs usually start with a beta blocker, like Inderal. A neurologist should be able to diagnose the cause of the tremor, Sally. Chip My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally
Chip, I don’t know if this is it or not. My symptoms didn’t abate while I was drinking. Nothing, outside of sleep, gives me any relief. No drugs. No alcohol (I swear, I’d drink if that would actually help, but it doesn’t). I may have to make an appointment with my internist, but I doubt he can help. I’m sure this is some kind of psychological reaction to my mom’s death. It’s driving me nuts. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep. Sounds like an essential tremor. My father has it in his hands (can barely write) and his head nods back and forth. Essential tremors often are relieved temporarily by alcohol (don’t recommend in your case). It is made worse by anxiety. docs usually start with a beta blocker, like Inderal. A neurologist should be able to diagnose the cause of the tremor, Sally. Chip My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally Chip, I don’t know if this is it or not. My symptoms didn’t abate while I was drinking. Nothing, outside of sleep, gives me any relief. No drugs. No alcohol (I swear, I’d drink if that would actually help, but it doesn’t). I may have to make an appointment with my internist, but I doubt he can help. I’m sure this is some kind of psychological reaction to my mom’s death. It’s driving me nuts. Sally
btw-xanax does a great job aborting panic and anxiety but a lousy job of relaxing muscle groups–valium is king of this domaine with klonpoin and Librium running a close queen and prince-you may want to ask your doc for a trial of one of these-chances are he will go for klonopin, but with your depressive tendency–I would opt for librium first and valium second–10mg of librium a day or 5mg of valium a day would possibly do the deed until you break the habit- — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep. Sounds like an essential tremor. My father has it in his hands (can barely write) and his head nods back and forth. Essential tremors often are relieved temporarily by alcohol (don’t recommend in your case). It is made worse by anxiety. docs usually start with a beta blocker, like Inderal. A neurologist should be able to diagnose the cause of the tremor, Sally. Chip My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally Chip, I don’t know if this is it or not. My symptoms didn’t abate while I was drinking. Nothing, outside of sleep, gives me any relief. No drugs. No alcohol (I swear, I’d drink if that would actually help, but it doesn’t). I may have to make an appointment with my internist, but I doubt he can help. I’m sure this is some kind of psychological reaction to my mom’s death. It’s driving me nuts. Sally
try progressive relaxation excercises Jackie has posted them but if you want I can type one out for you-it is most often best if you can have someone with a soothing voice tape one of these or buy one on rebt.org–a good one is by Arnold Lazarus who has a very nice basso voice–I am sure this is just an anxious event that has become a habit-like a twitch, or like that kid we all knew in school who rolled his eyes or had this facial tick when he was inervated. I hate having my eyes examined–it is a long story going back to some childhood trauma-so when the doc gets close to my face with the goinoscope my head twiches-or rather my neck does this wiggle waggle I can only assume is my bodies way of trying to get away from him–without being too analytical–what are you trying to get away from that you can’t face–I know I know, it’s a big leap from cbt, but sometimes–it just makes some sense — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep.
Sounds like an essential tremor. My father has it in his hands (can barely write) and his head nods back and forth. Essential tremors often are relieved temporarily by alcohol (don’t recommend in your case). It is made worse by anxiety. docs usually start with a beta blocker, like Inderal. A neurologist should be able to diagnose the cause of the tremor, Sally. Chip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hi. I have a problem that I don’t know what it is or what I can do to help it. It’s really distressing me. My mother was diagnosed with cancer last year, and she died shortly afterward. When she was diagnosed, it scared me so much that I started holding my hand funny and started having involuntary movement in my neck. My head rocks back and forth constantly, unless I’m asleep. My psychiatrist asked me what it was, as if I was some kind of expert. I have no idea what it is. I know it’s anxiety related, somehow. It’s some sort of reaction to my mother’s death and fear of the future, is the best thing I can tell. No meds help. Not Xanax or Buspar or Haldol. I’m taking the latter two as well as Coumadin for a blood clot in my lower left leg. Do you have any advice? I’d do anything to stop this. Hypnosis, anything. I look really retarded and just the feeling of being "clenched" at every waking moment is beginning to wear a little thin. Relaxation exersizes help momentarily and then I’m back to square one. I’m really desperate. Thanks LM. We so appreciate you. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
Jackie ~*~Life was so much easier when your clothes didn’t match and boys had cooties~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm 
Dear Anna, away soon. It`s too annoying 
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