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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Kip King wrote: >>J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 >>Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis. >>Achiron A, Barak Y >>Multiple Sclerosis Center, Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel. >>Abarbanel Mental Health Center, Bat Yam, Israel. >>[Medline record in process] >>Who loves ya. >>Tom > I’ve got about 100 or so phone numbers (with area codes) in my memory > and am playing some of the best chess of my life (and I’ve played > chess since I was three years old).

Kip, I think you forgot to remind everyone that this needed OT in the topic line. Trust me, if I could remember 100 or so phone numbers I wouldn’t have a problem remembering the OT. My previous near perfect memory would also be able to remember that some newsreaders change the OT. Carole

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Oh, Tooo-oooom…! Lookey here!  This one’s gonna’ put a big fat ole’ smile on your cute l’il face when you digest the great news! Seems as tho’ we can *regain* lost cognitive function – and the remedy is cheap, fun (once you get into the habit) and something we can do almost anywhere without special equipment…*exercise*!!!! Aw, Tom…is that a big ole’ happy tear I see runnin’ down your jolly red cheek?  Golly gee, you’re such a soft-hearted l’il guy! Well, don’t take my word for it, darlin’ – read it and feel free to continue weeping: : J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci 2003 Feb;58(2):176-80 Related Articles, Links Aerobic fitness reduces brain tissue loss in aging humans. Colcombe SJ, Erickson KI, Raz N, Webb AG, Cohen NJ, McAuley E, Kramer AF. Beckman Institute, University of Illinois, Urbana 61801, USA. BACKGROUND: The human brain gradually loses tissue from the third decade of life onward, with concomitant declines in cognitive performance. Given the projected rapid growth in aged populations, and the staggering costs associated with geriatric care, identifying mechanisms that may reduce or reverse cerebral deterioration is rapidly emerging as an important public health goal. Previous research has demonstrated that aerobic fitness training improves cognitive function in older adults and can improve brain health in aging laboratory animals, suggesting that aerobic fitness may provide a mechanism to improve cerebral health in aging humans. We examined the relationship between aerobic fitness and in vivo brain tissue density in an older adult population, using voxel-based morphometric techniques. METHODS: We acquired high-resolution magnetic resonance imaging scans from 55 older adults. These images were segmented into gray and white matter maps, registered into stereotaxic space, and examined for systematic variation in tissue density as a function of age, aerobic fitness, and a number of other health markers. RESULTS: Consistent with previous studies of aging and brain volume, we found robust declines in tissue densities as a function of age in the frontal, parietal, and temporal cortices. More importantly, we found that losses in these areas were substantially reduced as a function of cardiovascular fitness, even when we statistically controlled for other moderator variables. CONCLUSIONS: These findings extend the scope of beneficial effects of aerobic exercise beyond cardiovascular health, and they suggest a strong solid biological basis for the benefits of exercise on the brain health of older adults. PMID: 12586857 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"tom hennessy" <thenn…@telus.net> wrote in message <news:3Haea.34087$UV6.2528026@news1.telusplanet.net>… > Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..? > <<snip>> > Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of > patients. > <<snip>> > J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 > Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis. > Achiron A, Barak Y > Multiple Sclerosis Center, Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel. > Abarbanel Mental Health Center, Bat Yam, Israel. > [Medline record in process] > OBJECTIVES: To evaluate and characterise cognitive impairment in the very > early stage of multiple sclerosis (MS), in which patients are still > diagnosed as suffering from probable MS. METHODS: The Brief Repeatable > Battery-Neuropsychological (BRB-N) that has been validated for MS patients > was used. Abnormal performance was defined as one standard deviation below > the mean reported for healthy age matched subjects. Neurological disability > and brain magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) were performed for all patients. > Correlation coefficients were calculated between disease burden variables > and performance on the BRB-N. RESULTS: Sixty seven patients with probable MS > were evaluated within a mean of one month of the onset of new neurological > symptoms. Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in > 53.7% of patients. Verbal abilities and attention span were most frequently > affected. Impairment was not correlated with neurological disability or MRI > disease burden. CONCLUSION: Prevalent cognitive impairment already exists at > onset of MS. > PMID: 12640060, UI: 22527018 > ————————————————————————— – > —- > Who loves ya. > Tom

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"tom hennessy" <thenn…@telus.net> wrote in message <news:3Haea.34087$UV6.2528026@news1.telusplanet.net>… > Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..? > <<snip>> > Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of > patients. > <<snip>> > J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 > Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis.

So?  People are NOT locked up until they die for cognitive impairment. This is the most insane idea you have come up with yet. In a civilized society, hardly anyone is "locked up" for life.  You would have to be a murderer or mentally ill beyond all help, and even then, you may get out. Totally improbable. Sylvia

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -cmccub…@sympatico.ca (Chris Fincham) wrote in message <news:dd7bfcc3.0303201027.140522e2@posting.google.com>… > Tom wrote: > "Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .." > Ramifications – yes!  Horror?  Not at all!  Tom, me clever darlin’ – > your little study inspired me to find this: > Dev Neurosci 2002;24(2-3):197-207 > Iron deficiency during embryogenesis and consequences for > oligodendrocyte generation in vivo. > Morath DJ, Mayer-Proschel M. > Huntsman Cancer Institute, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, > USA. > One of the hallmarks of the pathology of iron deficiency in children > is neurological disabilities that are often associated with > hypomyelination. It has been hypothesized that this amyelination is > mainly due to a disruption of myelin generation during the early > postnatal stages when oligodendrocytes mature to generate myelin > producing cell. In addition to these suggestions, we have previously > provided in vitro data showing that iron affects both the > proliferation and differentiation of glial precursor cells leading to > a disruption in the generation of oligodendrocytes. > We now present evidence demonstrating in vivo that iron deficiency > during pregnancy affects the iron levels of various brain tissues in > the developing fetus and disrupts not only the proliferation of their > glial precursor cells but also disturbs the generation of > oligodendrocytes from these precursor cells. In addition, we show that > iron deficiency during embryogenesis affects glial lineage cells in a > tissue-specific manner. Our studies offer the possibility to begin to > comprehend whether any effects that occur during embryogenesis might > have an influence on the establishment of the pathological defects > that occur as a consequence of iron deficiency. Copyright 2002 S. > Karger AG, Basel > PMID: 12401959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > Wouldn’t it be super-duper-wunnerful if docs discover that one of the > causes of MS is iron deficiency during pregnancy!?!

I think that would be highly IRONIC!!!!  LOL!!!!! Sylvia

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On 20 Mar 2003 19:41:42 -0800, Sylv772…@yahoo.com (Sylvia) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->cmccub…@sympatico.ca (Chris Fincham) wrote in message <news:dd7bfcc3.0303201027.140522e2@posting.google.com>… >> Tom wrote: >> "Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? >> Does / could / would this mean .." >> Ramifications – yes!  Horror?  Not at all!  Tom, me clever darlin’ – >> your little study inspired me to find this: >> Dev Neurosci 2002;24(2-3):197-207 >> Iron deficiency during embryogenesis and consequences for >> oligodendrocyte generation in vivo. >> Morath DJ, Mayer-Proschel M. >> Huntsman Cancer Institute, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, >> USA. >> One of the hallmarks of the pathology of iron deficiency in children >> is neurological disabilities that are often associated with >> hypomyelination. It has been hypothesized that this amyelination is >> mainly due to a disruption of myelin generation during the early >> postnatal stages when oligodendrocytes mature to generate myelin >> producing cell. In addition to these suggestions, we have previously >> provided in vitro data showing that iron affects both the >> proliferation and differentiation of glial precursor cells leading to >> a disruption in the generation of oligodendrocytes. >> We now present evidence demonstrating in vivo that iron deficiency >> during pregnancy affects the iron levels of various brain tissues in >> the developing fetus and disrupts not only the proliferation of their >> glial precursor cells but also disturbs the generation of >> oligodendrocytes from these precursor cells. In addition, we show that >> iron deficiency during embryogenesis affects glial lineage cells in a >> tissue-specific manner. Our studies offer the possibility to begin to >> comprehend whether any effects that occur during embryogenesis might >> have an influence on the establishment of the pathological defects >> that occur as a consequence of iron deficiency. Copyright 2002 S. >> Karger AG, Basel >> PMID: 12401959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] >> Wouldn’t it be super-duper-wunnerful if docs discover that one of the >> causes of MS is iron deficiency during pregnancy!?! >I think that would be highly IRONIC!!!!  LOL!!!!! >Sylvia

Great! just great! then I’d have to explain why all those refrigerator magnets kept sticking to my old bod. Donn

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"tom hennessy" <thenn…@telus.net> wrote in message <news:3Haea.34087$UV6.2528026@news1.telusplanet.net>… > Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..? > <<snip>> > Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of > patients. > <<snip>> > J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 > Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis. > Achiron A, Barak Y > Multiple Sclerosis Center, Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel. > Abarbanel Mental Health Center, Bat Yam, Israel. > [Medline record in process] > OBJECTIVES: To evaluate and characterise cognitive impairment in the very > early stage of multiple sclerosis (MS), in which patients are still > diagnosed as suffering from probable MS. METHODS: The Brief Repeatable > Battery-Neuropsychological (BRB-N) that has been validated for MS patients > was used. Abnormal performance was defined as one standard deviation below > the mean reported for healthy age matched subjects. Neurological disability > and brain magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) were performed for all patients. > Correlation coefficients were calculated between disease burden variables > and performance on the BRB-N. RESULTS: Sixty seven patients with probable MS > were evaluated within a mean of one month of the onset of new neurological > symptoms. Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in > 53.7% of patients. Verbal abilities and attention span were most frequently > affected. Impairment was not correlated with neurological disability or MRI > disease burden. CONCLUSION: Prevalent cognitive impairment already exists at > onset of MS. > PMID: 12640060, UI: 22527018 > ————————————————————————— – > —- > Who loves ya. > Tom

I’ve got about 100 or so phone numbers (with area codes) in my memory and am playing some of the best chess of my life (and I’ve played chess since I was three years old).

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On 20 Mar 2003 03:48:05 -0800, cmccub…@sympatico.ca (Chris Fincham) wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: >Jays, Tom! – this worried me so much that I stayed up half the night >searching frantically for something – anything – that might help my >cognitive deficits. >You can imagine my relief when I discovered that a little supplemental >iron might help…

Chris, I think Tommy may be taking on the wrong woman if he goes to bat with you. You GO, girl! — Joan Beware Tommy the Troll who is now asking for handouts on the internet.

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Tom wrote:

"Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? Does / could / would this mean .." Ramifications – yes!  Horror?  Not at all!  Tom, me clever darlin’ – your little study inspired me to find this: Dev Neurosci 2002;24(2-3):197-207 Iron deficiency during embryogenesis and consequences for oligodendrocyte generation in vivo. Morath DJ, Mayer-Proschel M. Huntsman Cancer Institute, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. One of the hallmarks of the pathology of iron deficiency in children is neurological disabilities that are often associated with hypomyelination. It has been hypothesized that this amyelination is mainly due to a disruption of myelin generation during the early postnatal stages when oligodendrocytes mature to generate myelin producing cell. In addition to these suggestions, we have previously provided in vitro data showing that iron affects both the proliferation and differentiation of glial precursor cells leading to a disruption in the generation of oligodendrocytes. We now present evidence demonstrating in vivo that iron deficiency during pregnancy affects the iron levels of various brain tissues in the developing fetus and disrupts not only the proliferation of their glial precursor cells but also disturbs the generation of oligodendrocytes from these precursor cells. In addition, we show that iron deficiency during embryogenesis affects glial lineage cells in a tissue-specific manner. Our studies offer the possibility to begin to comprehend whether any effects that occur during embryogenesis might have an influence on the establishment of the pathological defects that occur as a consequence of iron deficiency. Copyright 2002 S. Karger AG, Basel PMID: 12401959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Wouldn’t it be super-duper-wunnerful if docs discover that one of the causes of MS is iron deficiency during pregnancy!?! Chris F  :-)

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Sylvia wrote:

"Thanx for the article!" :-)  Well, when ‘ya think about it, it’s really Tom who deserves thanks – he inspired me to seek out the good news… "I have also heard that other stuff that isn’t expensive can help regain and keep cognitive function.  Cross word puzzles, trivia games, solitaire games, and, one of my favs, learning new words.  I’m subcribed to a service that sends me a word every day.  Not that I remember them all! So all that time I spend on the computer playing solitaire isn’t being wasted; I’m working on my brain. <grin>" Those are all excellent brain exercise, Sylvia!  I’m partial to jigsaw puzzles and last year I graduated to 3-D jigsaws (y’know, the ones invented by those clever Canadian lads)  I’ve built the medieval castle and my Vatican is almost complete, save for a few sections of roof (a couple pieces of which I suspect have been stolen by Dave, Evil-Demon-Cat-From-Hell). "Use it or lose it; applies to both your body and your brain." Amen to that! Chris F  :-)

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Hey, Chris! > Oh, Tooo-oooom…! > Lookey here!  This one’s gonna’ put a big fat ole’ smile on your cute > l’il face when you digest the great news! > Seems as tho’ we can *regain* lost cognitive function – and the remedy > is cheap, fun (once you get into the habit) and something we can do > almost anywhere without special equipment…*exercise*!!!! > Aw, Tom…is that a big ole’ happy tear I see runnin’ down your jolly > red cheek?  Golly gee, you’re such a soft-hearted l’il guy! > Well, don’t take my word for it, darlin’ – read it and feel free to > continue weeping:

Thanx for the article! I have also heard that other stuff that isn’t expensive can help regain and keep cognitive function.  Cross word puzzles, trivia games, solitaire games, and, one of my favs, learning new words.  I’m subcribed to a service that sends me a word every day.  Not that I remember them all! So all that time I spend on the computer playing solitaire isn’t being wasted; I’m working on my brain. <grin> Use it or lose it; applies to both your body and your brain. Sylvia

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"tom hennessy" <thenn…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:3Haea.34087$UV6.2528026@news1.telusplanet.net… > Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..?

Cognitive impairment doesn’t mean you need to be locked up. It means you need to make some adjustments.

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Joan, I think Tommy is really running for President of Jerk Nation.   Dora – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Joan Carter wrote: > On 20 Mar 2003 03:48:05 -0800, cmccub…@sympatico.ca (Chris Fincham) wrote in > alt.support.mult-sclerosis: > >Jays, Tom! – this worried me so much that I stayed up half the night > >searching frantically for something – anything – that might help my > >cognitive deficits. > >You can imagine my relief when I discovered that a little supplemental > >iron might help… > Chris, I think Tommy may be taking on the wrong woman if he goes to bat with > you. You GO, girl! > — > Joan > Beware Tommy the Troll who is now asking for handouts on the internet.

– http://urdangerous.tripod.com When opportunity knocks…don’t miss the dance.

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I’m so cognitively impaired that I think you’re a reactive oxygen species who should be locked up. Take care, Paul All About MS – the latest MS News and Views http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -tom hennessy wrote: > Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..? > <<snip>> > Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of > patients. > <<snip>> > J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 > Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis. > Achiron A, Barak Y > Multiple Sclerosis Center, Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel. > Abarbanel Mental Health Center, Bat Yam, Israel. > [Medline record in process] > OBJECTIVES: To evaluate and characterise cognitive impairment in the very > early stage of multiple sclerosis (MS), in which patients are still > diagnosed as suffering from probable MS. METHODS: The Brief Repeatable > Battery-Neuropsychological (BRB-N) that has been validated for MS patients > was used. Abnormal performance was defined as one standard deviation below > the mean reported for healthy age matched subjects. Neurological disability > and brain magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) were performed for all patients. > Correlation coefficients were calculated between disease burden variables > and performance on the BRB-N. RESULTS: Sixty seven patients with probable MS > were evaluated within a mean of one month of the onset of new neurological > symptoms. Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in > 53.7% of patients. Verbal abilities and attention span were most frequently > affected. Impairment was not correlated with neurological disability or MRI > disease burden. CONCLUSION: Prevalent cognitive impairment already exists at > onset of MS. > PMID: 12640060, UI: 22527018 > ————————————————————————— – > —- > Who loves ya. > Tom > — > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com > Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..? <<snip>> Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of patients. <<snip>> J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis. Achiron A, Barak Y Multiple Sclerosis Center, Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel. Abarbanel Mental Health Center, Bat Yam, Israel. [Medline record in process] OBJECTIVES: To evaluate and characterise cognitive impairment in the very early stage of multiple sclerosis (MS), in which patients are still diagnosed as suffering from probable MS. METHODS: The Brief Repeatable Battery-Neuropsychological (BRB-N) that has been validated for MS patients was used. Abnormal performance was defined as one standard deviation below the mean reported for healthy age matched subjects. Neurological disability and brain magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) were performed for all patients. Correlation coefficients were calculated between disease burden variables and performance on the BRB-N. RESULTS: Sixty seven patients with probable MS were evaluated within a mean of one month of the onset of new neurological symptoms. Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of patients. Verbal abilities and attention span were most frequently affected. Impairment was not correlated with neurological disability or MRI disease burden. CONCLUSION: Prevalent cognitive impairment already exists at onset of MS. PMID: 12640060, UI: 22527018 ————————————————————————— – —- Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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You’re over-reacting pretty dramatically, Tom. Lots of people have cognitive deficits that show up only on careful examination… and they generally are no more than a minor nuisance where they’re noticable to the "sufferer" at all. I have a diagnosed "severe" short-term memory deficit of a certain limited sort.  It’s frustrating as hell fairly often, but I live with it just fine, and for the most part, there  are simple and effective ways to avoid having it ruin my life.  It’s nothing to warrant "lockup", not even temporarily while I’ve sorted out how to live with it, let alone "until I die". Do you actually know anything at *all* about the things you parrot, Tom? — Michael <muirh…@island.net>  - TomTurd Seeks Link of Alzheimers with Tinned Vegetables! http://new-www.adrc.wustl.edu/mailinglists/alzheimer/199512/msg00216…. "tom hennessy" <thenn…@telus.net> wrote in message

news:3Haea.34087$UV6.2528026@news1.telusplanet.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..? > <<snip>> > Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in 53.7% of > patients. > <<snip>> > J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 2003 Apr;74(4):443-6 > Cognitive impairment in probable multiple sclerosis. > Achiron A, Barak Y > Multiple Sclerosis Center, Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel. > Abarbanel Mental Health Center, Bat Yam, Israel. > [Medline record in process] > OBJECTIVES: To evaluate and characterise cognitive impairment in the very > early stage of multiple sclerosis (MS), in which patients are still > diagnosed as suffering from probable MS. METHODS: The Brief Repeatable > Battery-Neuropsychological (BRB-N) that has been validated for MS patients > was used. Abnormal performance was defined as one standard deviation below > the mean reported for healthy age matched subjects. Neurological disability > and brain magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) were performed for all patients. > Correlation coefficients were calculated between disease burden variables > and performance on the BRB-N. RESULTS: Sixty seven patients with probable MS > were evaluated within a mean of one month of the onset of new neurological > symptoms. Evidence for the presence of cognitive impairment was shown in > 53.7% of patients. Verbal abilities and attention span were most frequently > affected. Impairment was not correlated with neurological disability or MRI > disease burden. CONCLUSION: Prevalent cognitive impairment already exists at > onset of MS. > PMID: 12640060, UI: 22527018 > ————————————————————————– — > —- > Who loves ya. > Tom > — > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com > Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING

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"Chris Fincham" <cmccub…@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

news:dd7bfcc3.0303200348.43782a87@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Tom wrote: > "Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? > Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..?" > Jays, Tom! – this worried me so much that I stayed up half the night > searching frantically for something – anything – that might help my > cognitive deficits. > You can imagine my relief when I discovered that a little supplemental > iron might help… > Sleep Med Rev 2001 Aug;5(4):277-286 > Iron, brain and restless legs syndrome. > "Iron deficiency in the central nervous system is known to cause motor > impairment and cognitive deficits; more recently, it has been > suggested that it may play a role in the pathophysiology of the > restless leg syndrome."

So what are you saying .. ? Since there is a VERY HIGH percent of people with restless leg .. and the incidence of anemia is far LESS than the number of people WITH restless leg . DUE TO the ‘Framington Heart Study ‘ which found the odds of BEING anemic against the odds of being .. iron replete .. ANEMIA falling far SHORT of those with iron excess .. then simple mathematics will tell you .. something .. ain’t .. right .. in .. Denmark. Iron destroys tocopherol .. which makes one anemic. Same anemia the astronauts .. get .. an iron loading anemia. NOT ‘iron deficient anemia’ but an anemia in which the body cannot / will not use the iron ‘on board’ and when one takes the simple blood tests .. one ‘appears’ TO BE .. anemic and they give you iron which kills you. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

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Tom wrote:

"Anyone see the ramifications / horror of THIS little study ? Does / could / would this mean .. lockup .. until .. you .. die ..?" Jays, Tom! – this worried me so much that I stayed up half the night searching frantically for something – anything – that might help my cognitive deficits. You can imagine my relief when I discovered that a little supplemental iron might help… Sleep Med Rev 2001 Aug;5(4):277-286   Iron, brain and restless legs syndrome. "Iron deficiency in the central nervous system is known to cause motor impairment and cognitive deficits; more recently, it has been suggested that it may play a role in the pathophysiology of the restless leg syndrome." Chris F  :-)

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