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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:00:01 -0700, "Tiger Lily" <m…@privacy.com> wrote: >and fuck you too
charming :>) Is Elizabeths pathetic bitch having a relapse then?
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"jake" <inva…@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:sa5510tvffj4jdd8hlilihspool6hh1b6p@4ax.com… ><snip> > >Hey "Norm", > > I don’t know who to be more sorry for you and the "not getting help" for > >your apnea (been there) or the child that your about to bring into this > >world and the hatefulness you express in your post’s. > oh?
Yes, and your point is? I’ve been suffering from sleep apnea for years and not get help for it and I have kids and know how sleep apnea can effect them. You dont beleave I can be conserned for her or the childs health and walfare? > I saw no comment on the hatred and bile spewed out by the socalled > "christian" fanatical control freak and her hangers-on that the poster > reacts to..?
I’m assuming you refer to my post not saying anything to the others about the "hate" in the other post’s. As I said in the text of my post, my intent was not to flame so I didnt say anythign to them. It was to express a common ground of support in not having help with apnea. Do you have sleep apnea? DO you know wht it’s like to sleep for hours and get up feeling like you havent slept in day’s? I further feel that to say "hey, i’ve been that way also" and that during that time I know I was not as nice as I should be might help her look at how she respond’s to to the others. I also didnt feel any further comment tword the others was required. It would be nothign more than flame. > >Baby’s are very receptive.
Poisinous comment? By what possable error could you judge this a hatefull comment? Call your local hopsital emergancy room, speak to any of the nurse’s or doctors. Look up some of the local mental health agency’s and ask them if this isnt true. It’s clear that you’ ve never had children. They feel and often respond to the mood around the house wither it’s is good or bad. Especially when they are small. I speak from direct experiance here, having been father to 5 daughter and a son. I can tell you that this is so. > that poisonous comment is WAY up there > with hateful posts..
My post was "No" such thing. It was a common ground responce saying I’ve been there. > dont kid yourself..
About what? These things I know from my years of living with sleep apnea and kids. You saying that the kids and this 3 inches of steel (trach) in my neck are wrong". When the youngest knows I’m feeling better and she can come sit in my lap to watch a movie when before she couldnt. (granted she is having a problem with Dad’s new necklace). > <passive-aggressive bullshit clipped>
What are you talking about? I’ve been tested by professionals and there’s no passive aggressive to it. You have read my post with a pre misconception and thus your "take" on it is wrong. My intent of the original question (being the original post in this string) was to find a place to share my experiences with sleep apnea and living life over the years with others. ME
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"jake" <inva…@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:i455101rfkb6pnnvolefp4l0v7hio5lnpf@4ax.com… > People are strongly advised to NOT to send personal information or > bank account details to mebers of this self-appointed clique
I totally agree, *never* send personal information over the net. However, As far as this "mebers of this self-apponited clique" stuff. I take it this should be ‘members’ but I have no idea about any clique or group here. ME
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:02:52 GMT, "ME" <dontbot…@nospam.com> wrote: >"jake" <inva…@invalid.com> wrote in message >news:i455101rfkb6pnnvolefp4l0v7hio5lnpf@4ax.com… >> People are strongly advised to NOT to send personal information or >> bank account details to mebers of this self-appointed clique >I totally agree, *never* send personal information over the net. >However, As far as this "mebers of this self-apponited clique" stuff. >I take it this should be ‘members’ but I have no idea about any clique or >group here.
you will find out soon enough if you ever say anything "Tal" AKA Elizabeth Harris disagrees with or if she takes a personal dislike to you.. then YOU will be called a troll and abusive comments made about you and your family and children..to try to drive you out >ME
– The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:02:52 GMT, "ME" <dontbot…@nospam.com> wrote: >"jake" <inva…@invalid.com> wrote in message >news:sa5510tvffj4jdd8hlilihspool6hh1b6p@4ax.com… >><snip> >> >Hey "Norm", >> > I don’t know who to be more sorry for you and the "not getting help" >for >> >your apnea (been there) or the child that your about to bring into this >> >world and the hatefulness you express in your post’s. >> oh? >Yes, and your point is?
the point is you seem to be joining in a pack attack >I’ve been suffering from sleep apnea for years and >not get help for it and I have kids and know how sleep apnea can effect >them. You dont beleave I can be conserned for her or the childs health and >walfare?
I believe its a real cheap shot..and is simply a pale echo of the vile tactics >> I saw no comment on the hatred and bile spewed out by the socalled >> "christian" fanatical control freak and her hangers-on that the poster >> reacts to..? >I’m assuming you refer to my post not saying anything to the others about >the "hate" in the other post’s.
precisely.. >As I said in the text of my post, my intent >was not to flame so I didnt say anythign to them.
no..you did not but you chose to talk about hateful posts to the poster they were attacking..as if people kicked were not allowed to say ouch.. there is a history here that perhaps you are unaware of.. > It was to express a common >ground of support in not having help with apnea. Do you have sleep apnea? DO >you know wht it’s like to sleep for hours and get up feeling like you havent >slept in day’s? I further feel that to say "hey, i’ve been that way also" >and that during that time I know I was not as nice as I should be might help >her look at how she respond’s to to the others. I also didnt feel any >further comment tword the others was required. It would be nothign more than >flame. >> >Baby’s are very receptive. >Poisinous comment? By what possable error could you judge this a hatefull >comment?
you dont think sly negative assumptions that then poster would be hateful to the baby inflaming? >Call your local hopsital emergancy room, speak to any of the >nurse’s or doctors. Look up some of the local mental health agency’s and ask >them if this isnt true. It’s clear that you’ ve never had children.
what is "clear " to you and reality are two different things >They feel and often respond to the mood around the house wither it’s is good or >bad. Especially when they are small. I speak from direct experiance here, >having been father to 5 daughter and a son. I can tell you that this is so.
that is as patronizing as your facile and erroneous assumption that others have not had the same experience.. >> that poisonous comment is WAY up there >> with hateful posts.. >My post was "No" such thing. It was a common ground responce saying I’ve >been there.
saying you dont know whether to feel more sorry for the Mom or the baby was poisonous and spiteful.. >> dont kid yourself.. >About what?
about your passive-aggressive post.. It was hostile and part of a pack attack but quite predictably here you are claiming you were trying to be "supportive" >These things I know from my years of living with sleep apnea and >kids. You saying that the kids and this 3 inches of steel (trach) in my neck >are wrong". When the youngest knows I’m feeling better and she can come sit >in my lap to watch a movie when before she couldnt. (granted she is having a >problem with Dad’s new necklace).
of course not.. sorry to hear this.. >> <passive-aggressive bullshit clipped> >What are you talking about? I’ve been tested by professionals and there’s no >passive aggressive to it.
passive agressiveness a style of communicating hostility under the guise of being helpful.. nothing to do with sleep apnea.. >You have read my post with a pre misconception and >thus your "take" on it is wrong.
that would be nice to believe.. >My intent of the original question (being >the original post in this string) was to find a place to share my >experiences with sleep apnea and living life over the years with others.
well despite the best efforts of this clique you have failed to notice this is a support group for sleep disorders in general not just Australians with sleep apnea.. that was all the poster they are trying to drive off wanted too.. The bogus FAQ on the private website is altered to suit the owners current "hit list" as you have attacked one of her marked victims I imagine you will be able to post free of personal attacks from her or her cronies..
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"Tal" <goer…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:buq0ar$kieet$1@ID-148111.news.uni-berlin.de… > > Sleepnet has forums for all kinds of sleep disorders >SNIP<
Yes, this is the site I was thinking about, thanks. > my point was, the original poster was askign about a place specific place to > post his story on a website, NOT to put it in a discussion thread……he > was specifically referring to the page on the FAQ of this newsgroup where > there is a section for people to submit their personal stories that he’d > seen reference to in the past.
I would actually post it here if the group generally didnt mind, it might be long winded. > if he’d just wanted to post his story in a discussion thread, he’d likely > have done that right here instead of asking where the specific webpage
was! Been a reguler on the internet since 1989, I’ve seen a lot of people go ape over a large post, especially one that would be a long one. Plus I have to edit it a bit over some detail’s I’ve been advise not to include. ME – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> — > Beth in Australia > (I am not a medical professional and anything stated in my posts is my > opinion only unless specified otherwise) > =================== > FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here > http://talhost.net/sleep > Newsgroup Archives http://talhost.net/sleep/archives.htm > this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles > Remove my name to reply
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<N…@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nu7010dlc8525dekec1qqnvqfgu9fteiu9@4ax.com… > Yes I have been nice.. too bad you are so damn nasty.. you’re one of Tal’s
groupies that ruins the NG. > I’m 35 weeks pregnant suffering from apena and can not get any help.
Having home pulse oximetry test next week. But no point in trying to get support from people like you. > Here you are resorting to name calling and obscenities.. yeah you’re a real sweet heart. > Say bye bye to your group.
Hey "Norm", I don’t know who to be more sorry for you and the "not getting help" for your apnea (been there) or the child that your about to bring into this world and the hatefulness you express in your post’s. Baby’s are very receptive. Yea, I have sleep apnea, been unable to tolerate the cpap, (now I got one to sell) finally after over 8 years of trying I had a trach. Two adjusting surgery’s later and it’s taken a lot of adjusting and it’s not very pretty especially with the bronchitis like now. It suck’s to cough and shoot blood all over the place. Anyway, I now have people telling me how much fun I am to be around, I feel better, wake up like a guy should. I don’t know, maybe your consider this just a flame and allow your mood to respond but I am only observing and hoping a person can point out something to help. Get you to stop for a minute and maybe consider this: I’ve seen more name calling from you "Norm" than the others. A big "Ditto" on the obscenities part. You seam to feel that the use of some words is proper sentence structure. What would you think to the first word spoken by your kid was an obscenities? I didn’t know that Tiger Lily had a group what is it about? Why do you think she will lose it? ME
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ME wrote: > <N…@nospam.com> wrote in message > news:nu7010dlc8525dekec1qqnvqfgu9fteiu9@4ax.com… >>Yes I have been nice.. too bad you are so damn nasty.. you’re one of Tal’s > groupies that ruins the NG. >>I’m 35 weeks pregnant suffering from apena and can not get any help. > Having home pulse oximetry test next week. But no point in trying to get > support from people like you. >>Here you are resorting to name calling and obscenities.. yeah you’re a > real sweet heart. >>Say bye bye to your group. > Hey "Norm", > I don’t know who to be more sorry for you and the "not getting help" for > your apnea (been there) or the child that your about to bring into this > world and the hatefulness you express in your post’s. Baby’s are very > receptive. Yea, I have sleep apnea, been unable to tolerate the cpap, (now I > got one to sell) finally after over 8 years of trying I had a trach. Two > adjusting surgery’s later and it’s taken a lot of adjusting and it’s not > very pretty especially with the bronchitis like now. It suck’s to cough and > shoot blood all over the place. Anyway, I now have people telling me how > much fun I am to be around, I feel better, wake up like a guy should. I > don’t know, maybe your consider this just a flame and allow your mood to > respond but I am only observing and hoping a person can point out something > to help. Get you to stop for a minute and maybe consider this: I’ve seen > more name calling from you "Norm" than the others. A big "Ditto" on the > obscenities part. You seam to feel that the use of some words is proper > sentence structure. What would you think to the first word spoken by your > kid was an obscenities? I didn’t know that Tiger Lily had a group what is it > about? Why do you think she will lose it? > ME
If you want more information, send your email address to me at nor…@socal.rr.com. This is a mailbox I open and close, as required.
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"jake" <inva…@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:rq95105bfjvico9nqnb7njn6i3jbkmrfhe@4ax.com… <snip> > the point is you seem to be joining in a pack attack
Well, I’m not, if you reread my original post I even said it was not intended as an attack, If so, I am attacking myself because I’ve been like she seams to be while my sleep apnea was untreated. > I believe its a real cheap shot..and is simply a pale echo of the vile > tactics
The truth is a cheap shot? In this case it was simply an observation of how she was acting. The intent behind my post, what you seam to think you can judge and assume I am attacking her. Well I’m not. > >I’m assuming you refer to my post not saying anything to the others about > >the "hate" in the other post’s.
I saw no reason to make my post a "flame" of the whole group or even note the others attack (It wouldnt do any good anyway, if as you say, it’s a clique with plans to get her to leave) when I felt her problem and her child’s health more important. Especially since I have been there and done that. > no..you did not
So this group have a rule that the post must include a responce to every attack or such? I think not. You are trying to require I post as you see fit as well as make a judgement call of my motives and plans. Wont work. > but you chose to talk about hateful posts to the poster they were > attacking..as if people kicked were not allowed to say ouch.. > there is a history here that perhaps you are unaware of..
Again, re read the post. I said no such thing. my post was to "norm" about it was not to talk about her post’s it was to point out the content of them and how they sound familure. Nothing else. To complain about all the negativity was not my point nor my in my needs, if you want to make it yours fine, go ahead feel free to judge the others but leave me out of it. There’s enought to flame about beside’s personal differences. I wanted to offer a little support to norm, in an attempt to help,(a reason why this group is here) from someone going thru what I have been thru myself. That’s all there is to it. I’ve made this clear before. > > It was to express a common > >ground of support in not having help with apnea. Do you have sleep apnea? DO > >you know wht it’s like to sleep for hours and get up feeling like you havent > >slept in day’s? I further feel that to say "hey, i’ve been that way also" > >and that during that time I know I was not as nice as I should be might help > >her look at how she respond’s to to the others. I also didnt feel any > >further comment tword the others was required. It would be nothign more than > >flame.
I noticed you don’t respond to my questions here…so how can you judge this matter with no knowledge to base on? > >> >Baby’s are very receptive. > >Poisinous comment? By what possible error could you judge this a hatefull > >comment? > you dont think sly negative assumptions that then poster would be > hateful to the baby inflaming?
Again, your comment assumes fact’s not in evidence. "norm" has posted a number of times and been very negative and hateful. I feel that she might be doing this due to the untreated sleep apnea, since I’ve been this way myself. There was no "sly negative assumptions" in the fact that baby’s do feel the world around them and as a parent I would feel it important to keep my baby from that. I hope "norm" does also. I *never* accused norm of any such thing as being hateful to her baby. If you will read her post she hasn’t even deliver it yet. > >Call your local hopsital emergancy room, speak to any of the > >nurse’s or doctors. Look up some of the local mental health agency’s and ask > >them if this isnt true. It’s clear that you’ ve never had children. > what is "clear " to you and reality are two different things
Then why do you try to turn my post into a bad thing? Make barb questiing of the satements. Your even ignoring my admission to being the same before my treatment? You make claim that my statements where meant as something else. > >They feel and often respond to the mood around the house wither it’s is good or > >bad. Especially when they are small. I speak from direct experiance here, > >having been father to 5 daughter and a son. I can tell you that this is so. > that is as patronizing as your facile and erroneous assumption that > others have not had the same experience..
It is not my post that has been patronizing. Your quickly turning into a flame’ing troll and getting close to the plonked button. I said nothing of "others", only that *your* assumptions of my intent behind my post is wrong. Clearly so since I’ve made an attempt to clarify my statements and you still feel necessary to question it and put a negative twist to it. The simple truth is you dont know what I was intending or planning in the post, you have no evidence as to a plan of the clique and myself to pack attack her and your wrong to continue this string under this idea. > saying you dont know whether to feel more sorry for the Mom or the > baby was poisonous and spiteful..
So, since you feel your so able to judge my heart & intent in this matter, which should I feel more sorry for? Mom or baby? Mom has untreated sleep apnea with all that that involves, the baby will be dependant on her for all of her needs. You dont think that’s a reason to be conserned? Having been there myself it’s easy to say that you can miss a lot of things and just that can hurt the kids. An example, I’ve been in a bad mood and missed chances to plan outside with my kids on the swingset. > >> dont kid yourself.. > >About what? > about your passive-aggressive post.. > It was hostile and part of a pack attack but quite predictably here > you are claiming you were trying to be "supportive"
I am very supportive! I am not part of any pack. You assume in error. OH, one other point on this "pack attack" idea, your idea of a pack attack assumes there’s a motive and group plan behind the post. After all that’s what a pack attack is. I don’t know any of the group and there was no contact prior or after this post out of the newsgroup so such an idea is again false. > >These things I know from my years of living with sleep apnea and > >kids. You saying that the kids and this 3 inches of steel (trach) in my neck > >are wrong". When the youngest knows I’m feeling better and she can come sit > >in my lap to watch a movie when before she couldnt. (granted she is having a > >problem with Dad’s new necklace). > of course not.. > sorry to hear this..
No reason to feel sorry for me, I’m getting treatment and seeing the kids smile again was worth it. I hope some day to heal the wounds in the relationship from the past. I’d rather have a different thing than the necklace but to see my daughters smile is better than the "mood" that went on in the house before. I do *feel* for "norm" as I’ve been there. > passive agressiveness a style of communicating hostility under the > guise of being helpful.. > nothing to do with sleep apnea..
You are wrong, I’ve explained myself and pointed out your mistake in "reading" my post. The "aggressive" of the passive aggressive refer’s to what? Gaining control of something, right. Well there’s nothing here to gain control of. If norm were to respond in kind to my post my only hope was to get her to consider a trach as treatment for her Apnea and thus make life better for her and her child. Nothing to control. > >You have read my post with a pre misconception and > >thus your "take" on it is wrong. > that would be nice to believe..
It’s the truth and your comment below proves this. > >My intent of the original question (being > >the original post in this string) was to find a place to share my > >experiences with sleep apnea and living life over the years with others. > well despite the best efforts of this clique you have failed to notice > this is a support group for sleep disorders in general not just > Australians with sleep apnea..
I did notice the other post’s of an attacking nature, so what? I’ve been online long enough to know what "alt.support.sleep-disorder" is for and unlike you I decided to leave the "clique" as you called it alone. Even if you could do something about this one, a new one would take it’s place. I am not part of it, don’t know who is, I don’t care. I wont be part of it. I have bad news for you, little clique’s are just a part of the world. And for the record I’m not Australian and I’ve never lived in Australia. Check my headers. I never posted anything saying I am or anything about that for that matter. You have an issue, valid or not about this clique and have flamed/attacked me and my post for it. > that was all the poster they are trying to drive off wanted too..
A sad waist of time as it will never happen. This group is clealry for all the world with sleep disorders and for support. If they really want a group just for Austrailians then they have to go form one. It would ahve to have that in the title to make it happen. > The bogus FAQ on the private website is altered to suit the owners > current "hit list"
Well, I’ve never read any FAQ for this group so I cant address that point. As far as I know most FAQ’s are kept on a private website since they dont fit the format of a normal newsgroup server, so what? Beside’s I don’t live by the FAQ’s of a newsgroup, they are to often written with personal agenda’s nor do I post by a FAQ. I live by a guideline of net edicate/the golden rule with a little of Jesus’ own "walk a mile in his shoes" before you make a judgment of someone. > as you have attacked one of her marked victims I imagine you will be > able to post free of personal attacks from her or her cronies..
I did not attack anyone. If i did it was norm and she has the right to say something about it not you. But, since I didnt attack her it’s a mute point. I can resolve any personal attack’s easily and no one will ever stop me from posting. Since … read more »
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Sorry I was just trying to be helpful. It won’t happen again. Carolyn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tal wrote: > my point was, the original poster was askign about a place specific place to > post his story on a website, NOT to put it in a discussion thread……he > was specifically referring to the page on the FAQ of this newsgroup where > there is a section for people to submit their personal stories that he’d > seen reference to in the past.
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"The real Norm" <"The real Norm"@socal.rr.com> wrote: ><snip> > If you want more information, send your email address to me at > nor…@socal.rr.com. This is a mailbox I open and close, as required.
Well, if you intend this for me…no thanks! ME
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Me….. this is the real Norm, not the troll Norm that posts here gives some background into the Norm@Nospam poster here "ME" <dontbot…@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:yFbQb.105881$sv6.506316@attbi_s52… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "The real Norm" <"The real Norm"@socal.rr.com> wrote: > ><snip> > > If you want more information, send your email address to me at > > nor…@socal.rr.com. This is a mailbox I open and close, as required. > Well, if you intend this for me…no thanks! > ME
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Tiger Lily" <m…@privacy.com> wrote in message
news:burm8p$l3ap5$1@ID-181334.news.uni-berlin.de… > Me….. this is the real Norm, not the troll Norm that posts here > gives some background into the Norm@Nospam poster here
Well, I "called it" in my post from what I’ve actually seen in the posting’s, beyond that I don’t think it needs to get into a direct email "gossip" type thing. This "troll Norm" as you called has been a bit to quick to "anger & cuss" from the start. I don’t consider it as troll issue as I have suffered from "untreated" Sleep apnea for years and I know it can make you like her. It may be beyond her control, example, just as the daytime sleepiness for some apnea sufferer’s can put them right to "sleep" no matter how hard they fight it. I lost my drivers license because my doctor couldn’t get this handled. A 10 year career as a truck driver over. If this is the case I feel sorry for her and the child. So should we all, I hope she get’s some sort of help soon. I feel the trach saved my life, as well as others around me because of sleep apnea’s effect’s. ME.
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:21:46 +1100, "Tal" <goer…@hotmail.com> wrote: >well why don’t you stay there and go away from here *smile*
just who the hell do you think you are to tell people suffering from sleep disorders not to post to a public unmoderated group for suffers from sleep disorder? you want a moderated group you can control? get off your fat arse and create one!! you cant con anyone but newbies into thinking your private vanity website is anything but a private website. — The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:41:43 GMT, "The real Norm" <"The real – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Norm"@socal.rr.com> wrote: >ME wrote: >> <N…@nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:nu7010dlc8525dekec1qqnvqfgu9fteiu9@4ax.com… >>>Yes I have been nice.. too bad you are so damn nasty.. you’re one of Tal’s >> groupies that ruins the NG. >>>I’m 35 weeks pregnant suffering from apena and can not get any help. >> Having home pulse oximetry test next week. But no point in trying to get >> support from people like you. >>>Here you are resorting to name calling and obscenities.. yeah you’re a >> real sweet heart. >>>Say bye bye to your group. >> Hey "Norm", >> I don’t know who to be more sorry for you and the "not getting help" for >> your apnea (been there) or the child that your about to bring into this >> world and the hatefulness you express in your post’s. Baby’s are very >> receptive. Yea, I have sleep apnea, been unable to tolerate the cpap, (now I >> got one to sell) finally after over 8 years of trying I had a trach. Two >> adjusting surgery’s later and it’s taken a lot of adjusting and it’s not >> very pretty especially with the bronchitis like now. It suck’s to cough and >> shoot blood all over the place. Anyway, I now have people telling me how >> much fun I am to be around, I feel better, wake up like a guy should. I >> don’t know, maybe your consider this just a flame and allow your mood to >> respond but I am only observing and hoping a person can point out something >> to help. Get you to stop for a minute and maybe consider this: I’ve seen >> more name calling from you "Norm" than the others. A big "Ditto" on the >> obscenities part. You seam to feel that the use of some words is proper >> sentence structure. What would you think to the first word spoken by your >> kid was an obscenities? I didn’t know that Tiger Lily had a group what is it >> about? Why do you think she will lose it? >> ME >If you want more information, send your email address to me at >nor…@socal.rr.com. This is a mailbox I open and close, as required.
People are strongly advised to NOT to send personal information or bank account details to mebers of this self-appointed clique – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:49:34 GMT, "ME" <dontbot…@nospam.com> wrote: ><N…@nospam.com> wrote in message >news:nu7010dlc8525dekec1qqnvqfgu9fteiu9@4ax.com… >> Yes I have been nice.. too bad you are so damn nasty.. you’re one of Tal’s >groupies that ruins the NG. >> I’m 35 weeks pregnant suffering from apena and can not get any help. >Having home pulse oximetry test next week. But no point in trying to get >support from people like you. >> Here you are resorting to name calling and obscenities.. yeah you’re a >real sweet heart. >> Say bye bye to your group. >Hey "Norm", > I don’t know who to be more sorry for you and the "not getting help" for >your apnea (been there) or the child that your about to bring into this >world and the hatefulness you express in your post’s.
oh? I saw no comment on the hatred and bile spewed out by the socalled "christian" fanatical control freak and her hangers-on that the poster reacts to..? >Baby’s are very receptive.
that poisonous comment is WAY up there with hateful posts.. dont kid yourself.. <passive-aggressive bullshit clipped>
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yeah yeah yeah……..be your childish self, we all KNOW who you are……you’ve proved it over and over – you’re unstable and you have some serious problems – and i don’t mean with sleep. i don’t know where you get this rubbish about australians LOL…..there are only a couple of australians even around this newsgroup! but again, you’re just proving how unstable and disturbed you are Any sane person would have left this group long ago if things are the way you claim they are. If you were hurt, you wouldn’t have come back…..you’d have left and turned your back on the place, but no……you weren’t hurt, you enjoy what you do and the respose you get……you trive on it…..and i’m sure right now you’re really excited about what i’m saying cause you know you’ve got a reaction! and that’s just what you want. Tell ya what tho…..it was annoying for a while, but now you’re just plain boring — Beth in Australia (I am not a medical professional and anything stated in my posts is my opinion only unless specified otherwise) =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://talhost.net/sleep Newsgroup Archives http://talhost.net/sleep/archives.htm this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles Remove my name to reply <N…@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5k50101cvblm778arrcpb30upa9q93ousm@4ax.com… > As much as you’d like it you and your groupies are not going to drive me
away. It’s a fucking shame though that you have ruined this group for me with your nonsense about me being a troll simply because I did not understand all the CPAP terminolgy. > You don’t own this group, your webpage is not about this group and this is
an international group it’s not just for you and your Aussie friends. > Fuck it.. I’ve tried and tried to get support here and all I get is crap
from you.. fine I’m done playing nice. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Say bye bye to your little group. > On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:21:46 +1100, in alt.support.sleep-disorder "Tal" <goer…@hotmail.com> wrote: > :well why don’t you stay there and go away from here *smile* > : > :> I like sleepnet. > :
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you’ve been nice?????????? well have this space all to yourself then love your name…… you sure don’t look like Norm but i guess you are getting your rocks off posting using Norms name were you born a bitch or do you have to work hard at it? and fuck you too <N…@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5k50101cvblm778arrcpb30upa9q93ousm@4ax.com… > As much as you’d like it you and your groupies are not going to drive me
away. It’s a fucking shame though that you have ruined this group for me with your nonsense about me being a troll simply because I did not understand all the CPAP terminolgy. > You don’t own this group, your webpage is not about this group and this is
an international group it’s not just for you and your Aussie friends. > Fuck it.. I’ve tried and tried to get support here and all I get is crap
from you.. fine I’m done playing nice. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Say bye bye to your little group. > On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:21:46 +1100, in alt.support.sleep-disorder "Tal" <goer…@hotmail.com> wrote: > :well why don’t you stay there and go away from here *smile* > : > :> I like sleepnet. > :
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well why don’t you stay there and go away from here *smile* – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I like sleepnet.
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> Sleepnet has forums for all kinds of sleep disorders >SNIP<
my point was, the original poster was askign about a place specific place to post his story on a website, NOT to put it in a discussion thread……he was specifically referring to the page on the FAQ of this newsgroup where there is a section for people to submit their personal stories that he’d seen reference to in the past. if he’d just wanted to post his story in a discussion thread, he’d likely have done that right here instead of asking where the specific webpage was! — Beth in Australia (I am not a medical professional and anything stated in my posts is my opinion only unless specified otherwise) =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://talhost.net/sleep Newsgroup Archives http://talhost.net/sleep/archives.htm this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles Remove my name to reply
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Tal, Sleepnet has forums for all kinds of sleep disorders. Sandman has one for people with sleep apnea where people can post information about CPAP’s mostly, other OSA devices–like oral appliances also general OSA information and question. If someone is having a problem with getting CPAP or has other questions someone will answer them. The URL that I gave was for the nonCPAP postings. This would be asking information about UPPP or anyother of the different surgeries available. For the most part it is people asking questions because they are thinking about having one of the surgeries. The other posting are how successful or not the surgeries have been. Sometimes there are questions about OSA in relationship to other diseases. His post of having a trach for OSA is certainly within line for that forum. Granted posting on your site he could post his whole story in detail. On Sleepnet some posts go as long as a page or 1 1/2 pages but hardly ever more than that. Carolyn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tal wrote: > as far as i know, sleepnet has no section for people to submit their > personal stories > — > Beth in Australia > (I am not a medical professional and anything stated in my posts is my > opinion only unless specified otherwise) > =================== > FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here > http://talhost.net/sleep > Newsgroup Archives http://talhost.net/sleep/archives.htm > this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles > Remove my name to reply
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This is the URL for Sleepnet. http://www.sleepnet.com/noncpap14/noncpap14.html Carolyn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ME wrote: > Hello, > I was considering posting a story about my own experience with OSA and > trach. Cant find the website, been posted here before, anyone got a url? > Thanks > ME
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> > I was considering posting a story about my own experience with OSA and > > trach. Cant find the website, been posted here before, anyone got a url? > > Thanks > This is the URL for Sleepnet. > http://www.sleepnet.com/noncpap14/noncpap14.html
as far as i know, sleepnet has no section for people to submit their personal stories — Beth in Australia (I am not a medical professional and anything stated in my posts is my opinion only unless specified otherwise) =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://talhost.net/sleep Newsgroup Archives http://talhost.net/sleep/archives.htm this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles Remove my name to reply
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> Hello, > I was considering posting a story about my own experience with OSA and > trach. Cant find the website, been posted here before, anyone got a url? > Thanks > ME
http://talhost.net/sleep — Beth in Australia (I am not a medical professional and anything stated in my posts is my opinion only unless specified otherwise) =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://talhost.net/sleep Newsgroup Archives http://talhost.net/sleep/archives.htm this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles
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Hello, I was considering posting a story about my own experience with OSA and trach. Cant find the website, been posted here before, anyone got a url? Thanks ME
