Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask
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not everyone is raving! like i said I think at the beginning of this thread (I can no longer see it without looking it up with google) the report I heard frommy local support group was that it wasn’t very pleasant to use at all. — Beth in Australia =================== FAQ for alt.support.sleep-disorder can be found here http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders this site is a work in progress – feel free to submit info/articles "Darren" <me…@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote in message
news:3ce2b84c.3548703@news.msu.edu… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This is available in the U.S. now. The sleep lab tech at our last > AWAKE meeting was RAVING about how wonderful it is. It appears to be > a God-send for those who have trouble breathing through their noses on > a regular basis. NO STRAPS!!! NO HEADGEAR!!!! > Darren > On Wed, 08 May 2002 00:29:39 GMT, "danandliz" <danand…@rogers.com> > wrote: > >This device is not available yet in Canada (don’t know about the United > >States) – I saw it demonstrated today by a Fisher Paykel representative. > >They’re taking orders (Medigas) but it won’t be available until next month. > >My first question was, "doesn’t the nose have to be covered up?" – the > >answer was that the design was such that the air was directed at the soft > >palate in such a way that it pushed up against it and blocked the sinus area > >to provide a seal. I also inquired as to whether this "mask" could be used > >on any system and the answer was yes but that there had to be heated > >humidifier – especially since it was the nose that provided the lungs with > >natural humidification and this would need to be replaced artificially since > >the nose was being bypassed. Regrettably there was no opportunity to > >actually try it out.
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Have pictures or a URL for pics? regards, eric pearson db2e…@nospammindspring.com On Wed, 15 May 2002 19:36:23 GMT, me…@mail.lib.msu.edu (Darren) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->This is available in the U.S. now. The sleep lab tech at our last >AWAKE meeting was RAVING about how wonderful it is. It appears to be >a God-send for those who have trouble breathing through their noses on >a regular basis. NO STRAPS!!! NO HEADGEAR!!!! >Darren >On Wed, 08 May 2002 00:29:39 GMT, "danandliz" <danand…@rogers.com> >wrote: >>This device is not available yet in Canada (don’t know about the United >>States) – I saw it demonstrated today by a Fisher Paykel representative. >>They’re taking orders (Medigas) but it won’t be available until next month. >>My first question was, "doesn’t the nose have to be covered up?" – the >>answer was that the design was such that the air was directed at the soft >>palate in such a way that it pushed up against it and blocked the sinus area >>to provide a seal. I also inquired as to whether this "mask" could be used >>on any system and the answer was yes but that there had to be heated >>humidifier – especially since it was the nose that provided the lungs with >>natural humidification and this would need to be replaced artificially since >>the nose was being bypassed. Regrettably there was no opportunity to >>actually try it out.
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This is available in the U.S. now. The sleep lab tech at our last AWAKE meeting was RAVING about how wonderful it is. It appears to be a God-send for those who have trouble breathing through their noses on a regular basis. NO STRAPS!!! NO HEADGEAR!!!! Darren On Wed, 08 May 2002 00:29:39 GMT, "danandliz" <danand…@rogers.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->This device is not available yet in Canada (don’t know about the United >States) – I saw it demonstrated today by a Fisher Paykel representative. >They’re taking orders (Medigas) but it won’t be available until next month. >My first question was, "doesn’t the nose have to be covered up?" – the >answer was that the design was such that the air was directed at the soft >palate in such a way that it pushed up against it and blocked the sinus area >to provide a seal. I also inquired as to whether this "mask" could be used >on any system and the answer was yes but that there had to be heated >humidifier – especially since it was the nose that provided the lungs with >natural humidification and this would need to be replaced artificially since >the nose was being bypassed. Regrettably there was no opportunity to >actually try it out.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tal wrote: > > Has anyone had any experience with the new Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask – > well > > its not really a mask – it goes in your mouth, and not in or over your > nose. > > Looks like more like a mouth guard. Has some sort of tongue depressor to > > keep your tongue in place. I saw a pamphlet on it yesterday – the promise > of > > such unrestricted movement is exciting, but I’m sure there would be > problems > > keeping the thing in your mouth all night. > > Any one using this yet? > I got to see the oracle first hand at a local support group meeting today. > The owner said he’d tried it for about half an hour a couple of times but > the part that holds your tongue down made it feel like he was > choking…..the flexible part that sits around your mouth was also a problem > when moving around because it twisted and stuff….. > His recommendation to anyone who was looking into it was to think VERY > seriously before going ahead and purchasing one……. > but as with all masks etc…. different things suit different > people…..it’ll be interesting to see what some other people > think > Beth in Australia
Thanks for the useful input.
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This device is not available yet in Canada (don’t know about the United States) – I saw it demonstrated today by a Fisher Paykel representative. They’re taking orders (Medigas) but it won’t be available until next month. My first question was, "doesn’t the nose have to be covered up?" – the answer was that the design was such that the air was directed at the soft palate in such a way that it pushed up against it and blocked the sinus area to provide a seal. I also inquired as to whether this "mask" could be used on any system and the answer was yes but that there had to be heated humidifier – especially since it was the nose that provided the lungs with natural humidification and this would need to be replaced artificially since the nose was being bypassed. Regrettably there was no opportunity to actually try it out. It certainly looked revolutionary – but as with any other equipment – you have to use it on a trial basis to see how it works for you IMHO. There will probably be a lot more info in this newsgroup once this becomes available in North America "Mark Kofler" <Mkof…@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:zLTf8.376$RH.34219@ozemail.com.au… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Has anyone had any experience with the new Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask – well > its not really a mask – it goes in your mouth, and not in or over your nose. > Looks like more like a mouth guard. Has some sort of tongue depressor to > keep your tongue in place. I saw a pamphlet on it yesterday – the promise of > such unrestricted movement is exciting, but I’m sure there would be problems > keeping the thing in your mouth all night. > Any one using this yet?
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> Has anyone had any experience with the new Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask – well > its not really a mask – it goes in your mouth, and not in or over your nose. > Looks like more like a mouth guard. Has some sort of tongue depressor to > keep your tongue in place. I saw a pamphlet on it yesterday – the promise of > such unrestricted movement is exciting, but I’m sure there would be problems > keeping the thing in your mouth all night. > Any one using this yet?
I got to see the oracle first hand at a local support group meeting today. The owner said he’d tried it for about half an hour a couple of times but the part that holds your tongue down made it feel like he was choking…..the flexible part that sits around your mouth was also a problem when moving around because it twisted and stuff….. His recommendation to anyone who was looking into it was to think VERY seriously before going ahead and purchasing one……. but as with all masks etc…. different things suit different people…..it’ll be interesting to see what some other people think Beth in Australia
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"Mark Kofler" <Mkof…@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >Has anyone had any experience with the new Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask – well >its not really a mask – it goes in your mouth, and not in or over your nose. >Looks like more like a mouth guard. Has some sort of tongue depressor to >keep your tongue in place. I saw a pamphlet on it yesterday – the promise of >such unrestricted movement is exciting, but I’m sure there would be problems >keeping the thing in your mouth all night.
I’d worry more about drooling, but F&P claimed wonderful acceptance in their tests. >Any one using this yet?
Not yet, but we’re eagerly awaiting a review. <hint> <hint> Tom
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Haven’t tried it. Picture of it on the bottom of this long page http://www.cpapman.com/fp.html Anything that gets more people to continue using CPAP thru the years is okay with me but… I question how comfortable this could ultimately be since we are constructed to breath thru the nose. Air must be near 100% humidity by the time it gets into our lungs. That’s what the three sets of turbinates are for, mouth ain’t got them. Anyway, will be interesting to see how people handle this. Mike "Mark Kofler" <Mkof…@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:zLTf8.376$RH.34219@ozemail.com.au… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Has anyone had any experience with the new Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask – well > its not really a mask – it goes in your mouth, and not in or over your nose. > Looks like more like a mouth guard. Has some sort of tongue depressor to > keep your tongue in place. I saw a pamphlet on it yesterday – the promise of > such unrestricted movement is exciting, but I’m sure there would be problems > keeping the thing in your mouth all night. > Any one using this yet?
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Has anyone had any experience with the new Fisher-Paykel Oracle mask – well its not really a mask – it goes in your mouth, and not in or over your nose. Looks like more like a mouth guard. Has some sort of tongue depressor to keep your tongue in place. I saw a pamphlet on it yesterday – the promise of such unrestricted movement is exciting, but I’m sure there would be problems keeping the thing in your mouth all night. Any one using this yet?
