Is this right?
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merk wrote: > Hi June > See previous message – I think that’s what I already have. It just didn’t > look right because I saw no way of the unused air escaping. I had visions > of being inflated like a balloon and floating away :-)
No, no. The hose will hold you. You may bump the ceiling a bit ….
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -OrionCA wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:19:02 GMT, Otter Perry <otter…@earthlink.net> > wrote: > >merk wrote: > >> Hi June > >> See previous message – I think that’s what I already have. It just didn’t > >> look right because I saw no way of the unused air escaping. I had visions > >> of being inflated like a balloon and floating away :-) > >No, no. The hose will hold you. You may bump the ceiling a bit …. > In any event it would have to inject helium or some other > lighter-than-air gas into her body to provide lift. More likely she’d > just roll around the room like a beach ball in a nightgown.
I had a perfectly lovely dream about my CPAP, the only one it has figured in, so far. It made me just light enough so that I could float a few feet off the ground. It was cool — I hadn’t had a flying dream in _years_.
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Ask the supplier of your machine ,hose and mask for a "Whisper Swivel"…That is the part you need for getting rid of exhaled air..It hooks on to the end of the hose,then in to the mask.If you leave open the port holes you are losing a lot of 02 that you need…………June
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Hi Linda Yes you’re right. It’s quite subtle though, isn’t it? Just a small difference in size between inner and outer. Tom "Linda" <chu…@mcsi.net> wrote in message
news:1NvL8.49790$0q3.2752073@news.webusenet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Tom: > About your question on the air holes, I about flipped out when I realized > that my new mask (same as my old one, respironics profile lite) did not have > the air holes. I ripped it off my head and showed to my husband. Upon > examining it, the design has been changed and the air comes out around where > the plastic fitting slips on to the tubing. Your mask may be different, you > might want to check with your local distributor and present your question to > them. I am pretty confident that they (respironics) would not create a mask > without an air hole. 
Have a worry-free night’s sleep. Linda
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Hi June See previous message – I think that’s what I already have. It just didn’t look right because I saw no way of the unused air escaping. I had visions of being inflated like a balloon and floating away :-) Tom "june" <J…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20153-3CFE9103-61@storefull-2154.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ask the supplier of your machine ,hose and mask for a "Whisper > Swivel"…That is the part you need for getting rid of exhaled air..It > hooks on to the end of the hose,then in to the mask.If you leave open > the port holes you are losing a lot of 02 that you need…………June
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Hi Mike I’m sticking with it – snoring stopped completely the first night and I can feel slight improvements in how I feel. I can go through more of the day now without feeling like I’m a total zombie. Just a partial one now. :-) The forehead piece is proving hard to get right – it’s not tight when I go to sleep but I wake in the mornings with a distinct dent in the bridge of my nose and it feels sore for most of the day. How should I set the white foam piece? It has the numbers 4 and 6 on it, and has two slots in it to affix it to the mask. Thanks for your help Tom (Remove senseofreality if replying by email) "MercedMike" <mercedm…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20020605115834.19811.00002969@mb-ba.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I agree with Tom Devlin … > The mask does not need to be real tight. It does not "suck" onto your face, > but sort of floats on a cushion of air. A few small leaks are OK, but as you > noted the ones in the eyes are not comfortable. You have to fiddle with the > straps to get it right. The adjustment of the forehead piece is critical and > helps the nose bridge problem. Don’t be afraid to bug your respiratory tech > daily until you get it adjusted properly. > There has to be some sort of exhaust. A steady stream of air comes out of it > and expels the CO2. But some masks have extra holes for addition of oxygen if > needed and they are normally plugged. I use the Mirage mask, and it has little > plastic plugs in the holes but they are perforated and the exhaust comes out of > them definitely strong enough to feel with your hand. > Some people get immediate results. My DW said I stopped snoring the very first > night, but I only slowly noticed the tired feeling departing and really it was > a month before I realized that there had been a big change in my sleeping > habits. Stick with it!! > Mike > posted and emailed
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Hi Tom The mask simply says "Respironics" on it – there’s no model name or number. Each night I try a different strap tension. I am determined to get this right – the benefits are too good to give up on at the first hurdle. One observation – trying to talk with the mask in use is interesting! Regards Tom Tried the nasal pillows but found that somewhat unpleasant so went with the mask. "Tom Devlin" <tomdev…@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:bbbsfu48mno6hohdithieenge78kj1ti94@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "tom" <merk99senseofreal…@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >How tight should the Respironics nasal mask be? > Which Respironics mask? They make a whole range of them, and a couple > of them have to be boiled and then fitted to your face. > >I wake with a dint in the > >bridge of my nose which hurts. If it’s not tight it leaks air over my eyes > >and makes them sore. Also if I lay on my side the mask leaks from the bottom > >(no, I’m NOT wearing it on my bottom ) A slightly larger mask leaks > >far too much but is more comfortable on the bridge of the nose. > None of this is right. It’s not unusual to go through several masks > before you find the one that’s right for you, and it’s your DME’s > responsibility to help you through the process. Call your sleep lab > and ask which mask you used during titration, if it worked there then > it will probably work at home. FWIW, the two most popular masks around > here seem to be the nasal pillows version of the Breeze and the Ultra > Mirage. We’ve also heard good things about the Aclaim, the IQ mask, > and the new NasalAire, you have _plenty_ of options available. > >The lab tech said I should keep the two vent holes in the mask closed, but > >if I do that, where’s the exhaled air going to? Does it rely on leaks to > >work properly? > There should be a small (about 1/8") hole that gets rid of the CO2, it > will have a steady stream of air coming out when you’re wearing the > mask. Any holes with caps are for supplemental oxygen or monitoring > equipment, keep them plugged. > >I seem to get through the night without problems but the only difference I > >have noticed in the morning is that I don’t feel "desperate" inside – I just > >feel tired, really tired still but not desperate inside, if you know what I > >mean. The sleep lab titration showed an average blood O2 level of 98% with > >CPAP – that sounds great. I do feel less stressed already but maybe I’m > >expecting too much too soon? I have heard that CPAP makes a bigger, more > >immediate difference the worse the problem has been. > >How long before I come back to the land of the truly awake? > You’ve only had three nights (with a leaking mask at that) and you’re > already showing some progress. I think you’re on the right track, but > you _have_ to get the mask issue resolved, please let us know what we > can do to help. > Tom
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> The forehead piece is proving hard to get right – it’s not tight when I go > to sleep but I wake in the mornings with a distinct dent in the bridge of my > nose and it feels sore for most of the day. How should I set the white foam > piece? It has the numbers 4 and 6 on it, and has two slots in it to affix it > to the mask.
I have this problem with my mask (Aclaim) it’s not that it’s tight at all, my forhead just seems to be very sensitive to anything touching it overnight….i’ve solved it easily by placing something soft under it, i started off with a folded sock (it was handy at the time). maybe you could try this? Beth in Australia alt.support.sleep-disorder website http://www.anchorweb.com.au/sleepdisorders Please feel free to submit information/stories etc
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"merk" <merka…@btclick.com> wrote: >The mask simply says "Respironics" on it – there’s no model name or number.
Call your DME and ask for the model, somebody here is bound to have one. >Each night I try a different strap tension. I am determined to get this >right – the benefits are too good to give up on at the first hurdle.
Oh, yeah. >One observation – trying to talk with the mask in use is interesting!
The Darth Vader effect? <g> Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Regards >Tom >Tried the nasal pillows but found that somewhat unpleasant so went with the >mask. >"Tom Devlin" <tomdev…@ameritech.net> wrote in message >news:bbbsfu48mno6hohdithieenge78kj1ti94@4ax.com… >> "tom" <merk99senseofreal…@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> >How tight should the Respironics nasal mask be? >> Which Respironics mask? They make a whole range of them, and a couple >> of them have to be boiled and then fitted to your face. >> >I wake with a dint in the >> >bridge of my nose which hurts. If it’s not tight it leaks air over my >eyes >> >and makes them sore. Also if I lay on my side the mask leaks from the >bottom >> >(no, I’m NOT wearing it on my bottom ) A slightly larger mask leaks >> >far too much but is more comfortable on the bridge of the nose. >> None of this is right. It’s not unusual to go through several masks >> before you find the one that’s right for you, and it’s your DME’s >> responsibility to help you through the process. Call your sleep lab >> and ask which mask you used during titration, if it worked there then >> it will probably work at home. FWIW, the two most popular masks around >> here seem to be the nasal pillows version of the Breeze and the Ultra >> Mirage. We’ve also heard good things about the Aclaim, the IQ mask, >> and the new NasalAire, you have _plenty_ of options available. >> >The lab tech said I should keep the two vent holes in the mask closed, >but >> >if I do that, where’s the exhaled air going to? Does it rely on leaks to >> >work properly? >> There should be a small (about 1/8") hole that gets rid of the CO2, it >> will have a steady stream of air coming out when you’re wearing the >> mask. Any holes with caps are for supplemental oxygen or monitoring >> equipment, keep them plugged. >> >I seem to get through the night without problems but the only difference >I >> >have noticed in the morning is that I don’t feel "desperate" inside – I >just >> >feel tired, really tired still but not desperate inside, if you know what >I >> >mean. The sleep lab titration showed an average blood O2 level of 98% >with >> >CPAP – that sounds great. I do feel less stressed already but maybe I’m >> >expecting too much too soon? I have heard that CPAP makes a bigger, more >> >immediate difference the worse the problem has been. >> >How long before I come back to the land of the truly awake? >> You’ve only had three nights (with a leaking mask at that) and you’re >> already showing some progress. I think you’re on the right track, but >> you _have_ to get the mask issue resolved, please let us know what we >> can do to help. >> Tom
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Yes, you are right! It can’t be a lot of air, cuz air is what we need. I hope you find a comfortable adjustment for your mask. Did you try the warm water trick. The mask, if it is like mine, can be dipped in water and then formed to your face. It might work. Have a wonderful day. Linda "merk" <merka…@btclick.com> wrote in message
news:adna0u$sgk$1@knossos.btinternet.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Linda > Yes you’re right. It’s quite subtle though, isn’t it? Just a small > difference in size between inner and outer. > Tom > "Linda" <chu…@mcsi.net> wrote in message > news:1NvL8.49790$0q3.2752073@news.webusenet.com… > > Hi Tom: > > About your question on the air holes, I about flipped out when I realized > > that my new mask (same as my old one, respironics profile lite) did not > have > > the air holes. I ripped it off my head and showed to my husband. Upon > > examining it, the design has been changed and the air comes out around > where > > the plastic fitting slips on to the tubing. Your mask may be different, > you > > might want to check with your local distributor and present your question > to > > them. I am pretty confident that they (respironics) would not create a > mask > > without an air hole. Have a worry-free night’s sleep. Linda
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<news:adkipd$2f6$1@knossos.btinternet.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hi folks, > > Well I finally got tested and have for 3 nights been on CPAP at 5cms > > pressure (my AHI was 21). > > A few questions if I may: > > How tight should the Respironics nasal mask be? I wake with a dint in the > > bridge of my nose which hurts. If it’s not tight it leaks air over my eyes > > and makes them sore. Also if I lay on my side the mask leaks from the bottom > > (no, I’m NOT wearing it on my bottom ) A slightly larger mask leaks > > far too much but is more comfortable on the bridge of the nose. > > The lab tech said I should keep the two vent holes in the mask closed, but > > if I do that, where’s the exhaled air going to? Does it rely on leaks to > > work properly? > > I seem to get through the night without problems but the only difference I > > have noticed in the morning is that I don’t feel "desperate" inside – I just > > feel tired, really tired still but not desperate inside, if you know what I > > mean. The sleep lab titration showed an average blood O2 level of 98% with > > CPAP – that sounds great. I do feel less stressed already but maybe I’m > > expecting too much too soon? I have heard that CPAP makes a bigger, more > > immediate difference the worse the problem has been. > > How long before I come back to the land of the truly awake? > > All the very best, you’re a good bunch of people. > > Tom > i suffered with mask leaks since aug 2001 from my respironics contour > deluxe mask. last month i went to ebay, bid on and won an ultra mirage > mask (learned about mirage and ebay from this group…{{{{group}}}}). > i am amazed at the difference. i am sleeping so much better and no > more awful indentations on my face. they took hours to go away. take > heart and try new masks, you WILL find the land of the truely awake!
Try a nasal pillow setup too, if you can. It’s apparently not for everyone, but it works for some of us. Paul R
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"Paul R" <nos…@nospam.please> wrote in message
news:k2dM8.29013$UT.2014700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > "lafsa" <la…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:296f2f72.0206070349.21b3523c@posting.google.com… > > "tom" <merk99senseofreal…@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > <news:adkipd$2f6$1@knossos.btinternet.com>… >snipped<
I got a mask with my Resmed machine that had a block of yellow silicone on the forehead and no adjustment other than the tension of the elastic straps. It was the same type of mask used at my titration study and was very uncomfortable. It caused ulcers on my forehead and the bridge of my nose. The sleep lab did not tell me there were other types of masks available. When I asked the DME rep who delivered my machine about that uncomfortable block in the forehead, he told me all masks had that! Fortunately, I saw an Ultra Mirage on display in a doctor’s office I visited in the course of my job duties. It looked so much better than what I had I called the DME and requested one. I costs $54 (US) and I am still waiting to find out if my insurance will pay anything towards the cost. It is a world of difference. It fits without hurting my face and the ulcers have healed. It’s appalling how LITTLE information I have gotten from my doctor, sleep lab, and DME supplier. This group has proven to be my best source of information. I urge anyone having trouble with CPAP to NOT give up! The results I have gotten are tremendous. I wake up feeling rested and awake. My energy level has increased and my appetite has diminished. My wife even has benefited. She is a light sleeper and used to finish the night on the sofa because my snoring made it impossible for her to get back to sleep in our bed. Now, she gets a good night of sleep in our bed. The first night I was on the hose I was so quiet it alarmed her and she checked to be sure I was still breathing!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"tom" <merk99senseofreal…@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message <news:adkipd$2f6$1@knossos.btinternet.com>… > Hi folks, > Well I finally got tested and have for 3 nights been on CPAP at 5cms > pressure (my AHI was 21). > A few questions if I may: > How tight should the Respironics nasal mask be? I wake with a dint in the > bridge of my nose which hurts. If it’s not tight it leaks air over my eyes > and makes them sore. Also if I lay on my side the mask leaks from the bottom > (no, I’m NOT wearing it on my bottom ) A slightly larger mask leaks > far too much but is more comfortable on the bridge of the nose. > The lab tech said I should keep the two vent holes in the mask closed, but > if I do that, where’s the exhaled air going to? Does it rely on leaks to > work properly? > I seem to get through the night without problems but the only difference I > have noticed in the morning is that I don’t feel "desperate" inside – I just > feel tired, really tired still but not desperate inside, if you know what I > mean. The sleep lab titration showed an average blood O2 level of 98% with > CPAP – that sounds great. I do feel less stressed already but maybe I’m > expecting too much too soon? I have heard that CPAP makes a bigger, more > immediate difference the worse the problem has been. > How long before I come back to the land of the truly awake? > All the very best, you’re a good bunch of people. > Tom
i suffered with mask leaks since aug 2001 from my respironics contour deluxe mask. last month i went to ebay, bid on and won an ultra mirage mask (learned about mirage and ebay from this group…{{{{group}}}}). i am amazed at the difference. i am sleeping so much better and no more awful indentations on my face. they took hours to go away. take heart and try new masks, you WILL find the land of the truely awake!
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Hi Tom: About your question on the air holes, I about flipped out when I realized that my new mask (same as my old one, respironics profile lite) did not have the air holes. I ripped it off my head and showed to my husband. Upon examining it, the design has been changed and the air comes out around where the plastic fitting slips on to the tubing. Your mask may be different, you might want to check with your local distributor and present your question to them. I am pretty confident that they (respironics) would not create a mask without an air hole. Have a worry-free night’s sleep. Linda
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I agree with Tom Devlin … The mask does not need to be real tight. It does not "suck" onto your face, but sort of floats on a cushion of air. A few small leaks are OK, but as you noted the ones in the eyes are not comfortable. You have to fiddle with the straps to get it right. The adjustment of the forehead piece is critical and helps the nose bridge problem. Don’t be afraid to bug your respiratory tech daily until you get it adjusted properly. There has to be some sort of exhaust. A steady stream of air comes out of it and expels the CO2. But some masks have extra holes for addition of oxygen if needed and they are normally plugged. I use the Mirage mask, and it has little plastic plugs in the holes but they are perforated and the exhaust comes out of them definitely strong enough to feel with your hand. Some people get immediate results. My DW said I stopped snoring the very first night, but I only slowly noticed the tired feeling departing and really it was a month before I realized that there had been a big change in my sleeping habits. Stick with it!! Mike posted and emailed
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"tom" <merk99senseofreal…@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >How tight should the Respironics nasal mask be?
Which Respironics mask? They make a whole range of them, and a couple of them have to be boiled and then fitted to your face. >I wake with a dint in the >bridge of my nose which hurts. If it’s not tight it leaks air over my eyes >and makes them sore. Also if I lay on my side the mask leaks from the bottom >(no, I’m NOT wearing it on my bottom ) A slightly larger mask leaks >far too much but is more comfortable on the bridge of the nose.
None of this is right. It’s not unusual to go through several masks before you find the one that’s right for you, and it’s your DME’s responsibility to help you through the process. Call your sleep lab and ask which mask you used during titration, if it worked there then it will probably work at home. FWIW, the two most popular masks around here seem to be the nasal pillows version of the Breeze and the Ultra Mirage. We’ve also heard good things about the Aclaim, the IQ mask, and the new NasalAire, you have _plenty_ of options available. >The lab tech said I should keep the two vent holes in the mask closed, but >if I do that, where’s the exhaled air going to? Does it rely on leaks to >work properly?
There should be a small (about 1/8") hole that gets rid of the CO2, it will have a steady stream of air coming out when you’re wearing the mask. Any holes with caps are for supplemental oxygen or monitoring equipment, keep them plugged. >I seem to get through the night without problems but the only difference I >have noticed in the morning is that I don’t feel "desperate" inside – I just >feel tired, really tired still but not desperate inside, if you know what I >mean. The sleep lab titration showed an average blood O2 level of 98% with >CPAP – that sounds great. I do feel less stressed already but maybe I’m >expecting too much too soon? I have heard that CPAP makes a bigger, more >immediate difference the worse the problem has been. >How long before I come back to the land of the truly awake?
You’ve only had three nights (with a leaking mask at that) and you’re already showing some progress. I think you’re on the right track, but you _have_ to get the mask issue resolved, please let us know what we can do to help. Tom
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Hi folks, Well I finally got tested and have for 3 nights been on CPAP at 5cms pressure (my AHI was 21). A few questions if I may: How tight should the Respironics nasal mask be? I wake with a dint in the bridge of my nose which hurts. If it’s not tight it leaks air over my eyes and makes them sore. Also if I lay on my side the mask leaks from the bottom (no, I’m NOT wearing it on my bottom ) A slightly larger mask leaks far too much but is more comfortable on the bridge of the nose. The lab tech said I should keep the two vent holes in the mask closed, but if I do that, where’s the exhaled air going to? Does it rely on leaks to work properly? I seem to get through the night without problems but the only difference I have noticed in the morning is that I don’t feel "desperate" inside – I just feel tired, really tired still but not desperate inside, if you know what I mean. The sleep lab titration showed an average blood O2 level of 98% with CPAP – that sounds great. I do feel less stressed already but maybe I’m expecting too much too soon? I have heard that CPAP makes a bigger, more immediate difference the worse the problem has been. How long before I come back to the land of the truly awake? All the very best, you’re a good bunch of people. Tom
