White Flash ?
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Jim Grayson wrote: > I’m glad I’m not crazy!!! I’m 29 year old male, and I have > had the same thing for the past 8 months. When I told > the neurologist about this, he blew it off, and I felt really > stupid.
Jim, welcome to modern science. The best scientists would take the opportunity to NOTICE and EXAMINE something they don’t understand. We often give it the label of ’serendipity’. That is, something accidentially discovered. Pardon me, but HORSE HOCKEY. It’s no accident that they pay attention and really examine the issue. And unfortunately, far too many people are not willing to entertain a paradigm shift. That is, the rules and diagnostic procedures they’ve used for years simply don’t include what is being described. Instead of noticing that it doesn’t fit, and wondering why, they simply choose to ignore it. You are not crazy. And any neurologist that thinks we know how the brain works must have finished dead last in their class !!! Regards, =jbf= John B. Fisher
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Jim, I read your post to the sleep disorder newsgroup dated Jan 4, 1999. I’m 37 and I’ve had similar experiences. Sometimes I get the white flash at the end and sometimes there is only the noise which sounds like what I imagine would be electricity traveling from one wire to another. It is the wierded thing and I thought I was the only person to ever experience this. Thanks for your post. I am so relieved. I have never told anyone about this happening to me. I thought I was Crazy too. What a relief! :) Terry in NH
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"John B. Fisher" wrote: > Jim Grayson wrote: > Jim, welcome to modern science. The best scientists would take the > opportunity to NOTICE and EXAMINE something they don’t understand. We often > give it the label of ’serendipity’. That is, something accidentially > discovered. Pardon me, but HORSE HOCKEY. It’s no accident that they pay > attention and really examine the issue. > And unfortunately, far too many people are not willing to entertain a > paradigm shift. That is, the rules and diagnostic procedures they’ve used > for years simply don’t include what is being described. Instead of noticing > that it doesn’t fit, and wondering why, they simply choose to ignore it. > You are not crazy. And any neurologist that thinks we know how the brain > works must have finished dead last in their class !!!
I just wanted to say AMEN to this post. The very worst doctor I have ever had LOVED to dismiss his patients by saying "I am a firm believer in the scientific method." Unfortunately, the people who talk about the scientific method are usually the ones who don’t understand it. -Bret Wood -bretw…@cs.uoregon.edu
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Hi, I used to suffer from this for about four years it only happens now and then. When I am about to fall asleep I feel something like a tension building up at the bottom of my neck / mid shoulder region. Then the sensation goes up to the back of my head around the visual cortex area then feels like it goes to the front. I know it may sound strange but it is hard to describe because it happens so quickly. The movement of the sensation is fast, I can also hear a short bussing noise with the duration of the sensation. Two to three seconds long like two live wire being touched together, the noise increases until the end. I can feel the whole sensation build up from start to finish if I move before it completes nothing happens if it is too quick or if I am to tired to notice it at first it feel like something firing through my head from the neck to the front of my head. I see a white falsh at the end with the noise being at its loudess point. As you can imagine it was pretty scary at first and very still can be. Anybody heard of anything like this? Cheers.
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On 31 Dec 1998 03:00:51 GMT, mparry6…@aol.com (MParry6760) wrote: >Hi, > I used to suffer from this for about four years it only happens now and >then. > When I am about to fall asleep I feel something like a tension >building up at the bottom of my neck / mid shoulder region. Then the sensation >goes up to the back of my head around the visual cortex area then feels like it >goes to the front. I know it may sound strange but it is hard to describe >because it happens so quickly.
I can’t shed any light, but I have had exactly two episodes very similar to what you describe. They happened many years ago (like nearly 20) and haven’t recurred. I never knew what caused them. They sure will wake a fellow up when he’s just about to doze off, though. Skip
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MParry6760 wrote: > When I am about to fall asleep I feel something like a tension > building up at the bottom of my neck / mid shoulder region. Then > the sensation goes up to the back of my head around the visual > cortex area then feels like it goes to the front. I know it may sound > strange but it is hard to describe because it happens so quickly.
[snip] > As you can imagine it was pretty scary at first and very still can > be. Anybody heard of anything like this?
No nothing quiet like that. But then I have had both visual and audible ‘flashes’ occur. That is, when I’m just going to sleep I’ll occassionally hear a loud ‘bang’ or see a flash. It doesn’t seem to occur in quiet the sequence you describe, but it certainly startles me awake. I’ve recently decided this is associated with periodic leg movement syndrome. I suspect that we are just beginning to really understand how we truly function. It’s both more complex and wonderful than we suspect. But it also allows things like this to happen. As long as you know what’s going on (even if not why), I’ld not worry too much. Unless the frequency or symptoms change! Regards, =jbf= John B. Fisher
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Hello, I don’t know that this will help much, but I had what sounds almost like the exact same thing years ago when I was taking L-Triptophan (sp?) to sleep, the tension and a flash, but it would happen quite a few times before I would get to sleep. I quit taking it, needless to say. It may be a chemical imbalance that builds up durring the day. Maybe you should keep a journal of what you eat, and then see if there is any connection there. Alison
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I’m glad I’m not crazy!!! I’m 29 year old male, and I have had the same thing for the past 8 months. When I told the neurologist about this, he blew it off, and I felt really stupid. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MParry6760 wrote in message <19981230220051.13598.00004…@ng06.aol.com>… >Hi, > I used to suffer from this for about four years it only happens now and >then. > When I am about to fall asleep I feel something like a tension >building up at the bottom of my neck / mid shoulder region. Then the sensation >goes up to the back of my head around the visual cortex area then feels like it >goes to the front. I know it may sound strange but it is hard to describe >because it happens so quickly. > The movement of the sensation is fast, I can also hear a short >bussing noise with the duration of the sensation. Two to three seconds long >like two live wire being touched together, the noise increases until the end. >I can feel the whole sensation build up from start to finish if I move before >it completes nothing happens if it is too quick or if I am to tired to notice >it at first it feel like something firing through my head from the neck to the >front of my head. I see a white falsh at the end with the noise being at its >loudess point. > As you can imagine it was pretty scary at first and very still can be. >Anybody heard of anything like this? >Cheers.
