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Won’t it be more effective if I pay less? — #include <standard.disclaimer _ Kevin D Quitt USA 91351-4454 96.37% of all statistics are made up Per the FCA, this email address may not be added to any commercial mail list
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John P- Interesting article you found there…however it is misleading. Obviously you know little about homeopathy. Your artilce writes: Homeopathy is a placebo… There are several aspects of homeopathy that make this impossible. If homeopathy is simply placebo(…I think I will get better, therefore I will…) then it is impossible that animals could be successfully treated with homeopathic remedies.
No it is not impossible. After all, a *human* is making a subjective decision about whether the animal is better. Animals, like humans, will recover most of the time from most problems, without any intervention, and even in spite of it. The tests done on animals have never been double-blind. The animal is given a homeopathic preparation, and the owner reports that the animal gets better. Sorry, but not only is that not proof, it’s not even evidence. Whatever homeopathy is, it is not a placebo.
Thereby demonstrating that you haven’t a clue as to what the placebo effect is. — #include <standard.disclaimer _ Kevin D Quitt USA 91351-4454 96.37% of all statistics are made up Per the FCA, this email address may not be added to any commercial mail list
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – John P- Interesting article you found there…however it is misleading. Obviously you know little about homeopathy. Your artilce writes: Homeopathy is a placebo… There are several aspects of homeopathy that make this impossible. If homeopathy is simply placebo(…I think I will get better, therefore I will…) then it is impossible that animals could be successfully treated with homeopathic remedies. However, I have seen first hand, countless cases of animals recovering from disease with the use of homeopathy. Cattle, cats, dogs, and horses are treated with homeopathic remedies all the time. And they have terrific and miraculous reactions to the remedies! But remember, animals can’t "believe that they will get well." And so homeopathy cannot be placebo!
Exactly as Kevin said. The animals owner thinks that the treatment is doing something, so their subjective assessment of the animals condition is tainted by this belief. Also, the animal is usually going to get better eventually anyway regardless of homeopathy. Secondly, the dilution issue. Yes, homeopathy is based upon tiny amounts of substances. And the basic premise is that "what can cause a disease/symptom in a healthy person, can treat an ill person that has those symptoms, if used in tiny amounts. Very tiny amounts. In fact, at these dilutions, there are 0 MOLECULES of the original substance. But what science has yet to discover (and they will soon)
Well gee, science hasn’t yet discovered that the Easter Bunny really exists either! is that water itself carries the impression, or memory of the original substance.
ROFLMAO! This is the funniest part about homeopathy. Somebody pointed out ages ago that these substances were so diluted that there is, as you say, 0 molecules of the active ingredients left in the solution! So they invented this garbage about the solution ‘remembering’ the ingredient. Oh well, I guess that it was the best excuse they could come up with after having been proven that they were full of shit! This is cutting edge science. The dilution of a substance in perfectly pure water actually makes the effects stronger!
Actually it’s cutting edge science fiction. Real science shows the opposite to be true. Ie: the dose-response relationship, where the stronger the dose, the stronger the effect. Thirdly, until you have witnessed the power and effectiveness of homeopathy, there is nothing I can say to make you change your mind. I have experienced first hand these effects- myself, my family, friends, and complete strangers. Whatever homeopathy is, it is not a placebo.
What is it then? Magic???? -Todd
Gee Todd, do you really believe this garbage??? Oh, by the way, I’ve got some really good swampland for sale. Never gets flooded. Interested?
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Secondly, the dilution issue. Yes, homeopathy is based upon tiny amounts of substances. And the basic premise is that "what can cause a disease/symptom in a healthy person, can treat an ill person that has those symptoms, if used in tiny amounts. Very tiny amounts. In fact, at these dilutions, there are 0 MOLECULES of the original substance. But what science has yet to discover (and they will soon) is that water itself carries the impression, or memory of the original substance. This is cutting edge science. The dilution of a substance in perfectly pure water actually makes the effects stronger!
You mean that that the water in MY bloodstream, right now, REMEMBERS that just a short time ago it was cooling a nuclear reactor? Or that it remembers that even more recently it was passing through the kidneys of a goat? Perhaps you mean that it remembers the e. coli that it carried before the City added chlorine? Given the number of things that that water has in its scrapbook, just what ritual do you do to make it forget all the others and act like YOUR 0 molecules are the only ones that count? — | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn’t REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn’t really a tooth fairy, but whois toothfairy.com works. |
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Won’t it be more effective if I pay less?
ROTFL! — Regards, Jennifer Bales
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Actually, I think you can just put a few hundred bucks in an envelope, then take the money back out of the envelope. Then you just send them the empty envelope which ‘remembers’ the money that used to be in it.
Cheers John P.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Won’t it be more effective if I pay less? ROTFL! — Regards, Jennifer Bales
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You know, that worked on our daughter. She was having trouble sleeping – had night terrors and the like. We bought a book on sleep disorders in children. She started sleeping well – and we never read the book. — #include <standard.disclaimer _ Kevin D Quitt USA 91351-4454 96.37% of all statistics are made up Per the FCA, this email address may not be added to any commercial mail list
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Curious. I wonder if this Dana Ullman is related to Robert Ullman and Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman??? They all seem to be in the homeopathetic industry! Cheers John P. Extraordinary Claims. Revolutionary Ideas, And the Promotion of Science — Vol. 7 No. 1999. On page 45, the title is Public Relations: Blue Smoke, Mirrors, and Designer Science How the Public Relations Industry Compromises Democracy by Brian Siano It’s basically a story of how the PR industry tricks editors and people into accepting things that they would otherwise not. It says that "[t]he best PR doesn’t look like advertising. Its goal is influence; it is designed to win hearts and minds, to get us, the public, on its clients’ side. "It’s an arsenal of fakery that would astound David Copperfield…. That arsenal includes planted news stories, newspaper editorials, and preproduced television news segmants. " The article gives several examples of how the PR firms are bought by big companies to create undue influence on our judgments of what is right and wrong. The tobacco companies like Philip Morris are brought up several times. And interestingly they start getting into IE crystals and ATG. It says, " one doesn’t imagine a magazine like "Mother Jones" falling for a pharmaceutical company’s PR. However, in September 1998, health columnist Michael Castleman reported on chemist Shui-Yin Lo, who was researching ice formations that gave off "a unique electrical field." These "IE clusters" formed in water containing extreme dilutions of sodium phosphate. UCLA immunologist Benjamin Bonavida reportedly said that water with IE crystals helped the immune system. The implication, drawn by Dana Ullman of Homeopathic Educational Services, is that Homeopathy works by creating IE crystals ( Castleman, 1998). "All of the claims in Castleman’s article regarding Lo and Bonavida’s work were derived from a homeophathy-boosting press release, written by Dana Ullman. Ullman, in turn, appears to have derived his claims from the American Technologies Group, whose other product include a fuel additive called "The Force", and the Superglobe, a varient on the "laundry ball" scam. Neither Ullman nor Castleman mentioned that the Oregon Department of Justice had investigated ATG’s and found no evidence for the existence of IE crystals. (ATG Website 1998, Touretzky and Dallara, 1998)."
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These seminars are really helpful and interesting. For more info visit the homepage at www.BlueSkyEdu.org The Homeopathic Treatment of Distraction, Defiance and Despair with Robert Ullman and Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman Dates: Oct. 8, 1999 Friday 7:00 PM ? 8:30 PM Oct. 9,1999 Saturday 9:00 AM ? 5:30 PM Oct. 10, 1999 Sunday 9:00 AM ? 5:30 PM The authors of Rage-Free Kids, Prozac-Free and Ritalin-Free Kids invite you to join them for a very special weekend on homeopathic medicines for mental and emotional problems. The Ullmans will share with us their insights on how to resolve mental and emotional suffering of the mind with thoughtfully chosen homeopathic medicines. Their newest book, Rage-Free Kids, is scheduled to be released in the early fall of 1999. This seminar will be the very first time for the Ullman