My bite is shifting
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"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:9dfkqk02cbi@drn.newsguy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article > <WVBK6.13$wp5.20820…@newssvr10-int.news.prodigy.com> on Thu, 10 May 2001 > 19:24:38 GMT, where "Sharon" said: > >"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message > >news:9dd78o014s1@drn.newsguy.com… > >> Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article > >> <> > >> They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and > >really > >> didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to > >enter an > >> exit only air (save the air). ;-) > >> -dave > >Dave, > >You drink entirely too much coffee. 
> No I don’t. Like Garfield would say: I drink just the right amount. hehehe > >I didn’t like the idea of the pads going in my nose either, sounded gross. > >But it really isn’t. I’m glad I overcome my aversion to them. > I’ve looked at them several times. Even when a couple speakers the AWAKE > meetings brought them in. Don’t like the looks, gonna avoid ‘em. Kinda like > that green stuff mom used to put on my plate. hehe … had to eat the stuff > back then, now I pick and choose. ROFLMAO as I have flashbacks of Daddy Bush > and veggies, what was it, cauliflower? Broccoli? > -dave > Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) > http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ > Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! > Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
Broccoli…… There really isn’t anything nasty about the nose pads. They are so easy to clean..I do "do that every day", not like the mask. So in reality it is more sanitary, unless you wash your mask every day too. Now, go eat your brussel sprouts and behave. Sharon
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <a8eoftsn1au90u4c03gh1mumo5lor25…@4ax.com> on Fri, 11 May 2001 15:17:24 -0400, where Tom said: >Dave J. (Scoop0901) <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote: >>>Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.) >> (Dumping my share of broccoli from the serving bowl onto Tom’s plate.) >Hold on there, Bucko. Is this _fresh_ broccoli? Carefully steamed >until just tender? You didn’t put <Gack> _cheese_ on it, did you?
Fresh? I dunno. I think it is, but it’s all green. Another reason for me not to eat it. Mom always told me when food was green to pitch it. LOL Did I put cheese on it? Not a chance! I don’t fix other folks’ plates … my children are a little too old now (thank God!), so I gave up that pastime. hehe >>Hope you’re hungry, Tom! ;-) >Why yes, and there’s some fresh broccoli in the refrigerator. I’ll >have some for supper, thanks for the reminder.
Hhhmmmm … welcome, I think. ;-) -dave Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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*BobGootee <gootee…@wnol.net> wrote: >> Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.) > ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ >Yuk! I won’t let my wife cook these when I’m home. And you wanted to >meet for lunch?
So the House Of Broccoli’s off the list? I still think a get-together would be fun, but Gary was the only one who seemed interested and I think he’s left the group. Is anybody else in or around Oakland county Michigan? Tom
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Dave J. (Scoop0901) <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote: >>Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.) > (Dumping my share of broccoli from the serving bowl onto Tom’s plate.)
Hold on there, Bucko. Is this _fresh_ broccoli? Carefully steamed until just tender? You didn’t put <Gack> _cheese_ on it, did you? >Hope you’re hungry, Tom! ;-)
Why yes, and there’s some fresh broccoli in the refrigerator. I’ll have some for supper, thanks for the reminder. Tom
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Lori Siska <lorisi…@home.com> wrote: >Can someone e-mail me privately (to save bandwidth) and >explain to me what "pillows" looks like.
Sorry, nasal pillows. They’re small silicon devices that deliver the air directly to your nostrils, here’s the only picture I could find of the actual pillows, http://shop.store.yahoo.com/noahsarkhomecare/nasalpillows1.html They need to be held in place by special headgear, the two most popular units are the Mallinckrodt Breeze (which I use) and the CONJO custom headgear. http://www.mallinckrodt.com/respiratory/productcatalog/product.asp?id… http://www.cpapman.com/customhe.htm (Posted public because you’re probably not the only person who’s wondering.) Tom
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"Sharon" <cross…@flash.net> wrote: >There really isn’t anything nasty about the nose pads. They are so easy to >clean..I do "do that every day", not like the mask. So in reality it is >more sanitary, unless you wash your mask every day too.
That’s one of the reasons I wish everybody could start with pillows, they’re so hassle free. Cleaning is just a matter of popping the pillows out of the shell and dumping them into a solution of baby shampoo and water. A short soak, and they’re ready to go again. Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.) – Sick of Spam? Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org
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"Tom Devlin" <tomdev…@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:ohrnfts9ob7j621m83c326cr83pt0gajsq@4ax.com… > "Sharon" <cross…@flash.net> wrote: > >There really isn’t anything nasty about the nose pads. They are so easy to > >clean..I do "do that every day", not like the mask. So in reality it is > >more sanitary, unless you wash your mask every day too. > That’s one of the reasons I wish everybody could start with pillows, > they’re so hassle free. Cleaning is just a matter of popping the > pillows out of the shell and dumping them into a solution of baby > shampoo and water. A short soak, and they’re ready to go again. > Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.) > – > Sick of Spam? Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org
Me too!!!!!
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <wUJK6.39$JT2.141338…@newssvr10-int.news.prodigy.com> on Fri, 11 May 2001 04:29:16 GMT, where "Sharon" said: >Broccoli……
I knew it was one of those. >There really isn’t anything nasty about the nose pads. They are so easy to >clean..I do "do that every day", not like the mask. So in reality it is >more sanitary, unless you wash your mask every day too. >Now, go eat your brussel sprouts and behave.
My mask is easy to clean. I dunk it in the bucket of Control-3 while I shower and toss it in the sink to rinse while I shave. Do it once a week unless I have a head cold or allergies are acting up, then I do it more often. Brussel sprouts are the little white tree thingies, right? Those I will eat. With cheese sauce. LOL When’s dinner, Mom? ;-) -dave Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <TLKK6.2786$%i7.2909…@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com> on Fri, 11 May 2001 05:28:19 GMT, where "Patrick said: >Dave, >In the few years I have been on this group it seems most people like the >nasal pillows best. I know one gal who use to be on the group that liked a >mask, darn cannot remember the name which I hated. People who have tried >several masks seem to like the pillows best.
Yeah, I’ve seen that over the past 17 or 18 months. I took a great liking to the Respironics Simplicity, as it’s the only mask I ever found that could hold a seal at my pressures (26/18). As far as the pillows, I think something drastic might have to change with the mask for me to consider them, but again, that’s just personal preference. ;-) >As far as long term use she did not say and unfortunately I did not ask >where she got the info but I will ask one of the sleep docs next time I see >one if they know.
Let me know what you find out. If nothing else, I can poke around and check with my contacts if you don’t turn anything up. >Also what type of masks might be important, pressure setting too. >What kind of mask do you use Dave? I go on comfort not looks but then I am >married and some of the young single folks don’t even like the idea of cpap >for future dating partners. But then as important as this is to health >hopefully education will come.
Exactly. But the really funny thing I found is when I was speaking with a Respironics tech on the phone one day, and a Respironics rep in person on numerous occasions. The Simplicity, Respironics says, will work up to a pressure of about 18 cm/H2O. They can’t believe it seals and maintains a seal all night long at my pressures. LOL I don’t go for looks of the mask. Heck, who cares? I’m sleeping when I have it on. Besides, there isn’t much more that I could do to my looks to make me any uglier. When it comes to looks, the easiest way to describe myself is saying I’m uglier than sin and dirt combined. Maybe sin and sin combined is uglier. 
-dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message >news:9dd78o014s1@drn.newsguy.com… >> Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article >> <zKoK6.1440$%i7.1065…@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com> on Thu, 10 May 2001 >04:25:03 >> GMT, where "Patrick said: >> >How long have you been using cpap? >> >I saw a sleep doctor today who told me that there is now information that >> >long term wearing of masks is causing some problems with the bone >structure. >> What constitutes "long term" use, according to that info, Patrick? >> >I use the breeze so it is more on my nose than a mask and most people >prefer >> >nasal pillows over masks. >> They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and >really >> didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to >enter an >> exit only air (save the air). ;-) >> -dave >> Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) >> http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ >> Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! >> Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <ohrnfts9ob7j621m83c326cr83pt0ga…@4ax.com> on Fri, 11 May 2001 09:59:46 -0400, where Tom said: >Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.)
(Dumping my share of broccoli from the serving bowl onto Tom’s plate.) Hope you’re hungry, Tom! ;-) -dave Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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Tom Devlin wrote: > Tom (who likes brussels sprouts _and_ broccoli.)
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ Yuk! I won’t let my wife cook these when I’m home. And you wanted to meet for lunch? — Bob, who don’t like most green stuff (except cash
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Patrick Richards wrote: > How long have you been using cpap? > I saw a sleep doctor today who told me that there is now information that > long term wearing of masks is causing some problems with the bone >structure.
I’ve been using a nasal mask for the last 6 years (5/w Respironics 1/w contour deluxe) and I swear my nose is sinking into my head at the top of it. I never wore my mask tight. I wear glasses so you don’t notice it with them on, but when I take them off I have that "cave man" look. Other people have posted this here before. — Bob Visit my information & link page at http://twilight.webbernet.net/~gooteebob/index_html.htm news.newusers.questions Moderation Team Worker news:news.newusers.questions
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Dave, In the few years I have been on this group it seems most people like the nasal pillows best. I know one gal who use to be on the group that liked a mask, darn cannot remember the name which I hated. People who have tried several masks seem to like the pillows best. As far as long term use she did not say and unfortunately I did not ask where she got the info but I will ask one of the sleep docs next time I see one if they know. Also what type of masks might be important, pressure setting too. What kind of mask do you use Dave? I go on comfort not looks but then I am married and some of the young single folks don’t even like the idea of cpap for future dating partners. But then as important as this is to health hopefully education will come. "Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:9dd78o014s1@drn.newsguy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article > <zKoK6.1440$%i7.1065…@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com> on Thu, 10 May 2001 04:25:03 > GMT, where "Patrick said: > >How long have you been using cpap? > >I saw a sleep doctor today who told me that there is now information that > >long term wearing of masks is causing some problems with the bone structure. > What constitutes "long term" use, according to that info, Patrick? > >I use the breeze so it is more on my nose than a mask and most people prefer > >nasal pillows over masks. > They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and really > didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to enter an > exit only air (save the air). ;-) > -dave > Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) > http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ > Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! > Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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You could check with a maxifacial doctor who is a dental that deals with jaw problems. "Susan Wachob" <su…@swachob.com> wrote in message
news:3AFACA6B.5B9C0DC7@swachob.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi- > My bite has shifted big time- but not in the way yours has! > I used a variety of other masks but shifted to the Breeze about a year > ago. It was terrific (and still really is) but when the pressure also > had to be raised, the air pushed my tongue up out of my throat more and > my tongue began pushing on the back of my upper teeth. That created both > pain around the roots of my upper front teeth and also the pressure of > my tongue caused my front teeth to move out and created a space between > my front teeth. > So… I now have an active retainer to push my front teeth back where > they are supposed to be. (My partner says I look like a 12 year old!) It > should only take about 6 weeks to move them back- (thank god I insisted > it be dealt with early because I’m in pain and can’t eat!!!!) > After the spaces are reduced, I then have to wear a night guard (for the > rest of my life?!?) to spread the pressure of my tongue over all of my > teeth instead of just the front ones. The idea is that both the pain and > the movement should disappear because there won’t be enough on any one > tooth to cause difficulties. > Fortunately, my dental insurance is covering the orthodontia and I > finally won the battle with my health insurance to cover the night guard > because it’s related to pain from a medical condition (they pay for the > CPAP and everything else related to the OSA except the mask). > At least that’s great news! > Does this strategy make sense? Can’t think of any other way to deal with > the tongue thrusting since according to my orthodontist, my mouth > doesn’t have room for my too-big tongue and I’m not about to have my > tongue reduced (Do they even do such a thing?!) > I ask if this makes sense because my sleep doc (who I no longer see- she > was awful), the orthodontist and the dentist all seem clueless as to how > to handle this and I came up with this strategy. > Thanks in advance for any feedback- > Susan
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <3AFB360B.97FAF…@home.com> on Fri, 11 May 2001 00:47:59 GMT, where Lori said: >Can someone e-mail me privately (to save bandwidth) and >explain to me what "pillows" looks like. >Thanks >Lori
Lori: The idea here is not to email, but communicate via this board, for the support of people who may "lurk" in the shadows with questions but not speak publicly. You can find pictures of the Adam’s Circuit setup here: http://www.cpapman.com/customhe.htm -dave Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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Can someone e-mail me privately (to save bandwidth) and explain to me what "pillows" looks like. Thanks Lori
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <WVBK6.13$wp5.20820…@newssvr10-int.news.prodigy.com> on Thu, 10 May 2001 19:24:38 GMT, where "Sharon" said: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message >news:9dd78o014s1@drn.newsguy.com… >> Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article >> <> >> They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and >really >> didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to >enter an >> exit only air (save the air). ;-) >> -dave >Dave, >You drink entirely too much coffee.
No I don’t. Like Garfield would say: I drink just the right amount. hehehe >I didn’t like the idea of the pads going in my nose either, sounded gross. >But it really isn’t. I’m glad I overcome my aversion to them.
I’ve looked at them several times. Even when a couple speakers the AWAKE meetings brought them in. Don’t like the looks, gonna avoid ‘em. Kinda like that green stuff mom used to put on my plate. hehe … had to eat the stuff back then, now I pick and choose. ROFLMAO as I have flashbacks of Daddy Bush and veggies, what was it, cauliflower? Broccoli? -dave Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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Dave J. (Scoop0901) <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote: >>I use the breeze so it is more on my nose than a mask and most people prefer >>nasal pillows over masks. >They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and really >didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to enter an >exit only air (save the air). ;-)
I’d go along with Patrick. I spent quite a bit of time reading mask reports on Deja after I was diagnosed and it seemed like most folks who’d stuck with CPAP had eventually gone to pillows. Pillows aren’t a universal solution, as your experience shows, but I sure wish that everyone had a chance to try them. Tom – Sick of Spam? Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org
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Hi- My bite has shifted big time- but not in the way yours has! I used a variety of other masks but shifted to the Breeze about a year ago. It was terrific (and still really is) but when the pressure also had to be raised, the air pushed my tongue up out of my throat more and my tongue began pushing on the back of my upper teeth. That created both pain around the roots of my upper front teeth and also the pressure of my tongue caused my front teeth to move out and created a space between my front teeth. So… I now have an active retainer to push my front teeth back where they are supposed to be. (My partner says I look like a 12 year old!) It should only take about 6 weeks to move them back- (thank god I insisted it be dealt with early because I’m in pain and can’t eat!!!!) After the spaces are reduced, I then have to wear a night guard (for the rest of my life?!?) to spread the pressure of my tongue over all of my teeth instead of just the front ones. The idea is that both the pain and the movement should disappear because there won’t be enough on any one tooth to cause difficulties. Fortunately, my dental insurance is covering the orthodontia and I finally won the battle with my health insurance to cover the night guard because it’s related to pain from a medical condition (they pay for the CPAP and everything else related to the OSA except the mask). At least that’s great news! Does this strategy make sense? Can’t think of any other way to deal with the tongue thrusting since according to my orthodontist, my mouth doesn’t have room for my too-big tongue and I’m not about to have my tongue reduced (Do they even do such a thing?!) I ask if this makes sense because my sleep doc (who I no longer see- she was awful), the orthodontist and the dentist all seem clueless as to how to handle this and I came up with this strategy. Thanks in advance for any feedback- Susan
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"Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:9dd78o014s1@drn.newsguy.com… > Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article > <> > They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and really > didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to enter an > exit only air (save the air). ;-) > -dave
Dave, You drink entirely too much coffee. I didn’t like the idea of the pads going in my nose either, sounded gross. But it really isn’t. I’m glad I overcome my aversion to them. Sharon
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sharon wrote: > "Dave J. (Scoop0901)" <sco…@newsguy.com> wrote in message > news:9dd78o014s1@drn.newsguy.com… > > Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article > > <> > > They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and > really > > didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to > enter an > > exit only air (save the air). ;-) > > -dave > Dave, > You drink entirely too much coffee. > I didn’t like the idea of the pads going in my nose either, sounded gross. > But it really isn’t. I’m glad I overcome my aversion to them. > Sharon
I tried them at the DME in the beginning, along with the Contour Deluxe and a couple other masks. There was something, difficult to describe, that I didn’t like about the pillows. They made me feel uneasy. However, since everything was new then, I plan on trying them again soon.
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Scoop0901 finished his coffee while reading article <zKoK6.1440$%i7.1065…@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com> on Thu, 10 May 2001 04:25:03 GMT, where "Patrick said: >How long have you been using cpap? >I saw a sleep doctor today who told me that there is now information that >long term wearing of masks is causing some problems with the bone structure.
What constitutes "long term" use, according to that info, Patrick? >I use the breeze so it is more on my nose than a mask and most people prefer >nasal pillows over masks.
They do? The very looks turned me off to them, but I tried them once and really didn’t like them. I think it’s just an aversion to anything trying to enter an exit only air (save the air). ;-) -dave Dave Jackson (Scoop0901) http://www.scoop0901.net/AWAKE/ Read the A.W.A.K.E. in Philly Sleep Apnea Support Group site today! Information is there on **many** topics, as well as sleep disorders.
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Honestly I don’t think I wear my mask too tight (the one time I did I woke up with a lower lip 5 times its normal size) but every morning my bite is slightly off. Throughout the day it goes back to normal but it’s very unnerving when I wake up. My teeth don’t -look- any different, but I can definitely notice the difference when I bite down. Anyone else have this happen? -Dill (Horizon LT)
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I have – I can feel the back of my filling in my top teeth when I bite down and I don’t wear my mask that tight. I thought I was the only one. Incidently, I have tried loosening the top and side straps and I still wake up in the morning with a red line that is really obvious. What am I doing wrong? Lori
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How long have you been using cpap? I saw a sleep doctor today who told me that there is now information that long term wearing of masks is causing some problems with the bone structure. I use the breeze so it is more on my nose than a mask and most people prefer nasal pillows over masks. "Dilweegie" <dilwee…@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dilweegie-7B53A3.19003006052001@news.earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Honestly I don’t think I wear my mask too tight (the one time I did I > woke up with a lower lip 5 times its normal size) but every morning my > bite is slightly off. Throughout the day it goes back to normal but > it’s very unnerving when I wake up. > My teeth don’t -look- any different, but I can definitely notice the > difference when I bite down. > Anyone else have this happen? > -Dill > (Horizon LT)
