PLEASE ADVISE ON sleep problem
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TiredPerson wrote: > As for the sleep problem I’m trying a humidifier. > Thanks for all advice here and I will post as soon as I know with more > certainty whether or not the humidifier will do the trick. > but of
I noticed in your original post that you had moved to a ‘rather new’ apt. If it is say under a year old, you may be suffering from allergic reactions to chemicals released. This is called gassing-off and comes from new paints, varnishes, plywood, and wafer board (I forget what it is called in the US). New upholstery and furniture will also do it and especially if it has a core of particle board. I suffer from those chemicals and have to put a piece of new furniture in the garage for a month or so before I can bring it into the house. A visit to a furniture store or a lumber yard affects me for days after. Regards, Lee
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Tim Miller said.. >Maybe psychological explanations have been oversold in the >past, but psychological explanations are probably still the best >explanation for the majority of sleep disorders, particuarly the >relatively mild and transient ones.
Tim — Although perhaps in some cases this is true, it was not for me. The danger is passing this off as probably the BEST explanation is feeding into the denial of those persons who are truly in dire need of physical treatment. Yet another way to blow off mild apnea as "no big deal" and go on with life. In my case, and I speak as a non-medical person and only of my own experience, the transition for minor symptoms to life and death was rather quick. I never saw the severity increase and was lucky to live to tell you about it. Dramatic? yes.. True? yes… I went from "a little sleepy at work" to falling off the bed in a dead sleep and cracking open my forehead in weeks… I really believed I was under stress – a lot was happening… counseling was the answer. So, although I hand you the benefit of the doubt, please remember that although these issues are worth considering, one would always do well to look at the whole picture, mind – body – et al. ~~~ pattie "We may have all come on different ships, but we’re in the same boat now" MLK Jr.
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That’s not accurate. The poster said "he tried everything to help them" which could mean anything, especially considering he was an AM practitioner. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -TiredPerson wrote: > >>>Or maybe TiredPerson should try putting a bucket over his head and stand on one > >>>foot while reciting the Gettysburg Address, it would be just as effective as > >>>your suggestion. Sorry to be such a smartass, but people with sleep apnea and > >>>other disorders come to this NG for real answers, not fantasyland cures. The > >>>"electrical field" business has been largely discredited, and I’m interested as > >>>to why the AM practitioner was not open-minded or inclusive enough to consider > >>>that their problems may have been due to any other number of factors, > Poster said that practioner did this. Go back and read it. > As for the sleep problem I’m trying a humidifier. > Thanks for all advice here and I will post as soon as I know with more > certainty whether or not the humidifier will do the trick. > but of > >>>course that would not really support his brilliant "bad energy" theory. Sigh.
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>>>In any event – I sure hope you feel better soon! >>>Best wishes, >>>Jacki 
Thanks and thanks for the post. As far as humidifiers are concerned for this situation, has anyone has more luck with warm moisture of cold moisture humidifiers? Thanks again, C
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My ‘home health person’? (the girl that delivered the CPAP) said her company has never handled heated humidifiers, so they don’t know what they would do if I were prescribed one. I do have an unheated one. I fold a heading pad in half and turn it on to medium, then lay the humidifier on top, then the CPAP on top of the humidifier. Seems to work OK. — David L. King ki…@planetc.com zd…@etsu.edu davek…@acm.org TiredPerson <tiredOneNOS…@epix.net> wrote in message
news:37ea3391.792057@newsserver.epix.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >>>In any event – I sure hope you feel better soon! > >>>Best wishes, > >>>Jacki > Thanks and thanks for the post. > As far as humidifiers are concerned for this situation, has anyone has > more luck with warm moisture of cold moisture humidifiers? > Thanks again, > C
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sjconro <sjco…@velocityhsi.com> wrote in message
news:37E55340.5F699A0C@velocityhsi.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Or maybe TiredPerson should try putting a bucket over his head and stand on one > foot while reciting the Gettysburg Address, it would be just as effective as > your suggestion. Sorry to be such a smartass, but people with sleep apnea and > other disorders come to this NG for real answers, not fantasyland cures. The > "electrical field" business has been largely discredited, and I’m interested as > to why the AM practitioner was not open-minded or inclusive enough to consider > that their problems may have been due to any other number of factors, but of > course that would not really support his brilliant "bad energy" theory. Sigh.
Sorry to offend you so badly. I just heard of a case similar to one who had figured out the problem, and was just trying to help. I obviously just don’t belong in this ng anaway, so I’m gonna say goodbye to the group. Bye
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>>>> C >>>Hi C! This may sound really far fetched, but one of my alternative medicine >>>teachers told me about a case where this couple had terrible sleeping >>>problems, tiredness, aches, anxiety, and he tried everything to help them, >>>but nothing worked. Then they moved to a different place and they were >>>amazingly cured. Turns out that their bed in the old place was located near >>>some main power lines for the whole apartment complex. This created some >>>kind of bad energy field or something, and now the AM practitionor advises >>>to take a small radio, tune it to a place where there is no reception, and >>>take it around the room or house and notice where the static gets louder, >>>and those are the places where there are power lines or some kind of bad >>>energy field, and avoid those places.
Well, I would certainly try the radio thing, only I don’t have a portable radio. I know that a relative of mine lived near major power lines and develped severe migraine headaches as a result. Sounds pretty physiological to me and not THAT far fetched. Or you could just get a map of the – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>electrical system. If your located near a main power supply, you may have >>>to move. Of course I would make comepletely sure that was whats causing it >>>first. I think there is too much activity in the apartment I live in now, >>>and I’ve had alot more trouble sleeping at this place, but it just hasn’t >>>been convenient for us to move. >>>Sasha
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>>>Or maybe TiredPerson should try putting a bucket over his head and stand on one >>>foot while reciting the Gettysburg Address, it would be just as effective as >>>your suggestion. Sorry to be such a smartass, but people with sleep apnea and >>>other disorders come to this NG for real answers, not fantasyland cures. The >>>"electrical field" business has been largely discredited, and I’m interested as >>>to why the AM practitioner was not open-minded or inclusive enough to consider >>>that their problems may have been due to any other number of factors,
Poster said that practioner did this. Go back and read it. As for the sleep problem I’m trying a humidifier. Thanks for all advice here and I will post as soon as I know with more certainty whether or not the humidifier will do the trick. but of – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>course that would not really support his brilliant "bad energy" theory. Sigh.
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In article <37e3ad76.4415…@newsserver.epix.net>, tiredOneNOS…@epix.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(TiredPerson) wrote: > PLEASE help – cannot take it anymore > I moved to this rather new apartment complex in March. About month > into being here, I noticed that I was sore and tired and drained when > I got up in the morning. I felt awful during the day but not to the > point where I was going to fall asleep. > I doubt it’s the bed or couch here, as I tried sleeping on the bed and > the couch and feel the same way. > Had every type of blood test imaginable and all results are fine. Not > anemic or anything else. > Every time I spend a few days at my old house (which is very moist) I > feel fine when I get up in the morning. > I just came back here and sure enough feel like shit again. > This place has a heat pump for both heat and AC. > Office managment of the complex says that a heat pump makes the air > very dry. The only thing I can think of is that the dry air is making > me not breath the right way when I sleep. > Want to buy a humidifier, but do not want to waste the money if this > is a riduculous idea. I cannot take this any more. > I had considered some kind of sleep apnea but ruled it out because I > sleep just fine at my old house and at yet another location. > Dry air affects the other residents in that it makes there skin dry > and mucous membranes dry. Is it likely that the dry air is affecting > me by making me not breath correctly? > Need advice > Thanks,
Hi, C… Just another thing to consider here! I read several "red alert words" in your post above!! First, was the fact you’re in a "NEW" apartment. Does this mean new carpets, new paint, new furniture, etc.? Another red alert is that you say you feel fine when sleeping in your old place. Both these things make me strongly feel there is an environmental connection to what you’re experiencing. Please do check out the humidifier aspect, as others have suggested – that’s a great thing to do! However, I also encourage you to check into the environmental factors. Many products, especially NEW products, outgas horrific chemicals into the air and can cause the exact same symptoms you describe. I personally was disabled by chemicals for 6 years (and diagnosed with "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome") before I found out it was actually being caused by the chemicals! I was even in a wheelchair for several years because it left me so drained, and I had no clue that products I used every day were adding to my symptoms! As far as inside a home, carpets are the worse for 2 reasons – they outgas chemicals, such as formaldehyde, and they also harbor dust, dust mites, mold, etc. I know if you’re in an apt. it would be hard to get rid of the carpet(!) – however, there are some steps you could take to help with this, if indeed it is the case. First – open your windows and run fans as often as possible. The EPA found that the most polluted cities’ outdoor air was nothing compared to the pollution INSIDE people’s homes! The more fresh air you can get into your home, the better! Second, I encourage you to try switching to less toxic products for personal care, cleaning, etc. Number 1 is to avoid fragrance or any fragranced product – they contain many toxic chemicals and the fragrance industry is NOT regulated! Right now there is a petition before the EPA to have "Eternity" by Calvin Klein mislabelled because a privately-hired chemist found many chemicals in this product that are considered "hazardous waste"!! I have lots of info about this, as well as suggestions for using less toxic products on my personal site if you care to look into this further. BTW, I’m not selling any products or anything – just have a site to help others with fatigue, dizziness, etc., who might not realize that they’re actually suffering from chemical poisoning… My site is at: http://www.supernet.net/~jackibar/mcs.html In any event – I sure hope you feel better soon! Best wishes, Jacki
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> "electrical field" business has been largely discredited, and I’m interested as > to why the AM practitioner was not open-minded or inclusive enough to consider > that their problems may have been due to any other number of factors, but of > course that would not really support his brilliant "bad energy" theory. Sigh.
Actually, personally I found this thought interesting. I have never had a problem like this myself but I do have a problem related to energy output…..for example, I cannot wear a wind up watch because it will either stop or go slow. And I often "interfere" with electrical devices, like Hi-Fi’s and even (believe it or not) streetlights. While I believe this isn’t exactly a common thing I do know that several others have similar problems…….so in some circumstances, maybe this isn’t quiet as far fetched as it may at first seem
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:40:32 +1000, "Tal" <talie…@i-o.net.au> wrote: > | > | > "electrical field" business has been largely discredited, and I’m > | interested as > | > to why the AM practitioner was not open-minded or inclusive enough to > | consider > | > that their problems may have been due to any other number of factors, but > | of > | > course that would not really support his brilliant "bad energy" theory. > | Sigh. > | > > | Actually, personally I found this thought interesting. I have never had a > | problem like this myself but I do have a problem related to energy > | output…..for example, I cannot wear a wind up watch because it will either > | stop or go slow. And I often "interfere" with electrical devices, like > | Hi-Fi’s and even (believe it or not) streetlights. While I believe this > | isn’t exactly a common thing I do know that several others have similar > | problems…….so in some circumstances, maybe this isn’t quiet as far > | fetched as it may at first seem > | > |
My problem is that I have a leak in my roof that I have fixed over and over again for nearly 20 years, yet it comes back every time we have a heavy rain. Obviously I emit some sort of electrical waves that interfere with roof repairs. And the waste removal company visits my home to collect the trash every Monday and Thursday. Probably I emit some sort of electrical impulses that attract trash collectors. Every time I approach a stop light near my house, it changes from green to red. Apparently I emit some sort of electrical impulse that triggers the switching mechanism. When I go to the bank, the line I am in is always the slowest. It seems that I emit some sort of electrical impulses that cause the teller take much longer. Or could it be that I have only noticed the problems, and never noticed the hundreds of thousands of times that things act as they are supposed to? —————————————————- "Trudy is Beauth, Beauth, Trudy"
