No Sleep! arghhhh
Question:
Have you ever had a sleep study done? It really sounds to me like you have a sleeping disorder. JMO Nancy permanently into the ether: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I throw my hands up! I have been wrestling with this freaking lack of sleep for two years now. People keep telling me the body will sleep when it gets tired enough. I am suspecting this is BS because at least once a week I go 30 or so hours without sleeping, then I only managed to get about four hours. My eyes get so tired it hurts to watch tv, surf the net or read. I have been tried out on Ambien, Sonata, Ristoril, remeron, seroquil, choralhydrate, doxipine/senniquan, some old meds that i can’t remember the name but my grandma has taken for twenty years. Some worked for a day, most never worked. My mother told me that since I was a toddler I was always up prowling around in the wee hours of the morning. Any body take sleep meds that actually allows you to sleep? I have another call into the pdoc, my next actual appointment is coming on the 7th. I know it does more harm than good to get frustrated over lack of sleep but I am sooo tired of not getting enough rest. I also have tried a million different herbal remedies too. A total waste of money. Any ideas?
Response:
I have had that level of trouble sleeping for nearly twenty years. I used sleeping pills and tranquilizers for awhile, then I drank a lot for awhile, and later I just used Benadryl, thinking it was safer. But at doses of fifty pills or more each day, there are side effects. When I stopped those, I started having manic episodes that I had not recognized before. Inability to sleep is a hallmark of bipolar disorder, particularly of the manic state. It really must be controlled because lack of sleep may bring on increasingly severe manic states up to and including psychosis. I’m not willing to take that risk. I do nothing but take Gabitril now, enough to make me nearly catatonic so I can sleep, but I do sleep better. We tried to add Klonopin to my med mixture to help me get good rest, but it made me terribly depressed after about four days, so I discontinued. I called my pdoc about the Klonopin problem, and he said it was not possible for Klonopin to cause depression and urged me to keep using it. It was his belief that it was the illness causing the depression, but two days after I discontinued Klonopin, I returned to a stable condition. The depression was so severe and so unnecessary, I felt I had no choice. I’ll try another benzodiazapene, I think, but my SO will probably lobby against it since benzodiazapenes have not been helpful for me for many years. So I still suffer a little from insomnia, but I sleep well far more often than I once did. When I’m manic and un- or undermedicated, I can stay up all night and not be able to sleep AT ALL until the next night. The next night I may be able to get an hour or two in. This can go on for WEEKS. It’s not normal and NOT SAFE. I urge you to find a pdoc who takes this problem seriously. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Have you ever had a sleep study done? It really sounds to me like you have a sleeping disorder. JMO Nancy permanently into the ether: I throw my hands up! I have been wrestling with this freaking lack of sleep for two years now. People keep telling me the body will sleep when it gets tired enough. I am suspecting this is BS because at least once a week I go 30 or so hours without sleeping, then I only managed to get about four hours. My eyes get so tired it hurts to watch tv, surf the net or read. I have been tried out on Ambien, Sonata, Ristoril, remeron, seroquil, choralhydrate, doxipine/senniquan, some old meds that i can’t remember the name but my grandma has taken for twenty years. Some worked for a day, most never worked. My mother told me that since I was a toddler I was always up prowling around in the wee hours of the morning. Any body take sleep meds that actually allows you to sleep? I have another call into the pdoc, my next actual appointment is coming on the 7th. I know it does more harm than good to get frustrated over lack of sleep but I am sooo tired of not getting enough rest. I also have tried a million different herbal remedies too. A total waste of money. Any ideas?
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BP1. I forgot to mention that. I don’t know if it is an episode I will haave to wait to talk to pdoc tomorrow if his nurse returns my call. It seems to be worse about two days out of every week.
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I throw my hands up! I have been wrestling with this freaking lack of sleep for two years now. People keep telling me the body will sleep when it gets tired enough. I am suspecting this is BS because at least once a week I go 30 or so hours without sleeping, then I only managed to get about four hours. My eyes get so tired it hurts to watch tv, surf the net or read. I have been tried out on Ambien, Sonata, Ristoril, remeron, seroquil, choralhydrate, doxipine/senniquan, some old meds that i can’t remember the name but my grandma has taken for twenty years.
I am a bit hypo at present. I’m using Imovane aka Zopiclone for sleep – I don’t think that’s on your list here. It works like magic for me. I try to go to sleep without it. After about an hour of tensing and relaxing muscle groups, repeating a word to still thoughts, nose blocking up, rolling over, etc etc – I take half a tablet and 15 mins later I’m asleep. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Some worked for a day, most never worked. My mother told me that since I was a toddler I was always up prowling around in the wee hours of the morning. Any body take sleep meds that actually allows you to sleep? I have another call into the pdoc, my next actual appointment is coming on the 7th. I know it does more harm than good to get frustrated over lack of sleep but I am sooo tired of not getting enough rest. I also have tried a million different herbal remedies too. A total waste of money. Any ideas?
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BP1. I forgot to mention that. I don’t know if it is an episode I will haave to wait to talk to pdoc tomorrow if his nurse returns my call. It seems to be worse about two days out of every week.
Always the same two days? Is there anything those days have in common – re your activities, diet, the environment?
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No, they aren’t the same days each week. I wish there was a discernible pattern, but I can’t find one. Regular days of the week I am up until three am, two or three days I am awake until 8am the following day, then sleep for three to four hours. AND might i add, its not good sleep or restful. But then again sleep is like sex, even bad sex beats no sex. lol
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Clinton Grady: BP1. I forgot to mention that. I don’t know if it is an episode I will haave to wait to talk to pdoc tomorrow if his nurse returns my call.
I was thinking the same thing that Nome was, but then it occurred to me that when I’m manic I don’t *miss* the sleep, I feel good despite its lack. Really good. Too good. Just my experiences though. — Bob B bobbyb (at) kokomo1.net I’m gonna hit the highway like a battering ram, on a silver black phantom bike, when the metal is hot and the engine is hungry and we’re all about to see the light… -Meatloaf
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I throw my hands up! I have been wrestling with this freaking lack of sleep for two years now. People keep telling me the body will sleep when it gets tired enough. I am suspecting this is BS because at least once a week I go 30 or so hours without sleeping, then I only managed to get about four hours. My eyes get so tired it hurts to watch tv, surf the net or read. I have been tried out on Ambien, Sonata, Ristoril, remeron, seroquil, choralhydrate, doxipine/senniquan, some old meds that i can’t remember the name but my grandma has taken for twenty years. Some worked for a day, most never worked. My mother told me that since I was a toddler I was always up prowling around in the wee hours of the morning. Any body take sleep meds that actually allows you to sleep? I have another call into the pdoc, my next actual appointment is coming on the 7th. I know it does more harm than good to get frustrated over lack of sleep but I am sooo tired of not getting enough rest. I also have tried a million different herbal remedies too. A total waste of money. Any ideas?
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It isn’t clear from your message; do you have Bipolar Disorder? Could your insomnia be a manifestation of a manic state? I would wonder if a bipolar med like Topamax or Depakote might improve your sleep situation. — Nom dePlume, Ph.D Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist. Guide to Medications for Mental Illness: http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000 =====
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I throw my hands up! I have been wrestling with this freaking lack of sleep for two years now. People keep telling me the body will sleep when it gets tired enough. I am suspecting this is BS because at least once a week I go 30 or so hours without sleeping, then I only managed to get about four hours. My eyes get so tired it hurts to watch tv, surf the net or read. I have been tried out on Ambien, Sonata, Ristoril, remeron, seroquil, choralhydrate, doxipine/senniquan, some old meds that i can’t remember the name but my grandma has taken for twenty years. Some worked for a day, most never worked. My mother told me that since I was a toddler I was always up prowling around in the wee hours of the morning. Any body take sleep meds that actually allows you to sleep? I have another call into the pdoc, my next actual appointment is coming on the 7th. I know it does more harm than good to get frustrated over lack of sleep but I am sooo tired of not getting enough rest. I also have tried a million different herbal remedies too. A total waste of money. Any ideas?
