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Desperate Dems no match for Arnie October 12, 2003 BY MARK STEYN – CHICAGO SUN-TIMES You gotta admire the way the media stayed on the Demo-crats’ sinking California ship right to the very end. On the CNN Web site, even after Gray Davis had conceded, they were sticking to the loser’s talking-points: ”Schwarzenegger, who, like Hitler, is a native of Austria…” CNN? Oh, that’s that network with Larry King, who, like the Son of Sam, is a native of Brooklyn. Used to be owned by Ted Turner, who, like the Cincinnati Strangler, is a native of Cincinnati. Now part of Time Warner, founded by the Warner Brothers, the oldest of whom, Harry Warner, like many Auschwitz guards, was a native of Poland. Anyway, the good news is that residents of the Golden Reich still have the right to recall their new fuhrer from his bunker in Sacramento, and he probably won’t make Jews wear yellow stars and gays wear pink triangles because the fabric costs for Hollywood and San Francisco alone would double the deficit. But even on the day after, the Dems wouldn’t lay off the Nazi cracks. ”It was the triumph of the swill," said Paul Maslin, in an allusion to the late Leni Riefenstahl’s Hitler-glorifying documentary ”Triumph of the Will.” Arnold’s not just a Nazi, he’s Nazi garbage! Maslin is Gray Davis’ pollster. Maybe he should poll-test his jokes. Incidentally, if there was any triumph of the swill in this election, it was surely Maslin’s remarkable success in persuading so many media outlets to buy into the Gray Davis spin that their ”internal polls” showed the race was ”tightening.” Hence, hilarious headlines like the Washington Post’s on Election Day: ”On Eve Of Vote, California Race Remains Fluid” — ”fluid” in the sense that Cruz Bustamante’s defeat might be merely humiliating instead of shattering? Either Maslin was intentionally shoveling swill at the Los Angeles Times and his other chums or he’s an incredibly bad pollster. Given that there were similar discrepancies between alleged Democratic ”internal polls” and the real world in November 2002, either explanation could be valid. But the press bought the Democratic spin and in turn the Democrats bought the subsequent media spin. Both parties bolstered each other’s delusions. As I wrote after last year’s elections: ”Remind me never to complain about ‘liberal media bias’ again. Right now, liberal media bias is conspiring to assist the Democrats to sleepwalk over the cliff.” But 10 minutes after the polls had closed, the Dems and the media were once again rocketing off to Planet Bananas. Before Election Day, the official line was that the recall was part of a pattern of hardline Republican subversion of the democratic process, going back through the Florida recount to the Clinton impeachment. In an about-turn so fast poor old DNC honcho Terry McAuliffe must have gotten whiplash, the new line was that the recall reflected a voter anger against incumbents that would spell disaster for Bush next year. And even as I lay on the floor howling with laughter, up there on CNN Judy Woodruff & Co. were taking it seriously. That would be the Judy Woodruff who, like 1970s serial killer Lendell Hunter, is a native of Augusta, Ga. Just in case any Democrats have come back down to Planet Earth, here’s what happened on Tuesday: The two Republican candidates — Schwarzenegger and Tom McClintock — pulled 62 percent of the vote between them; the Democrat, Cruz Bustamante, got 31.7 percent. The remaining 6 percent was divided among the other 132 candidates. Just to recap: Republicans 62 percent, Democrats 31.7 percent — in the most liberal state in the nation. As long as all those angry voters keep expressing their anger by voting for Republicans over Democrats by two to one, I think I can live with it. At Thursday’s Democratic Presidential debate, Jeff Greenfield asked the candidates why it was that only 34 percent of Americans identified themselves as Democrats — the lowest number since before the New Deal. ”You’re looking at the glass as half-empty, I look at it as half-full,” said former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, demonstrating the command of basic math that has made the federal budget what it is. The Democratic glass isn’t half-empty, it’s two-thirds empty. Let us take the Davis/Bustamante campaigns at face value: The Republicans said it was all about business and taxes and growth; the Dems said it was about whether Arnie was a Nazi sex fiend. OK, let’s take that as seriously as Katie Couric and the rest of the gang did. Every day I get a gazillion e-mails screaming ”BUSH IS A NAZI!!!!” Also Cheney, Rumsfeld, even yours truly: We’re all Nazis. In California, an accident of birth gave the Democrats the opportunity to run with the Nazi hysteria literally. It flopped spectacularly. As in 2002, they tried to motivate their base by linking the recall to the Florida recount. It flopped, again. As in 2002, they flew in Bill Clinton to whip up the crowd, at least until the groping stories started. He flopped, again — as he did two years ago when Democratic gubernatorial candidates in Florida and Maryland were holding their own until the Big He turned up to rally the crowd. As always, they did the big ethnic pander, damning Republican views on illegal immigration as ”racist.” Amazingly, even this flopped. The Hispanic vote declined to fall in line behind one of their own, and over 30 percent went for Arnie. Nazi! Racist! Don’t forget Florida! Here’s Bill Clinton! It’s not much of a message, is it? And, if the party’s short of ideas, it’s even shorter of stars. The fact that in the most populous state in the nation the two leading Democrats are Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante is as telling as anything. The gubernatorial pool is where you look for presidential talent, and right now their only star governor is Jennifer Granholm, who can’t run for president because she was born in British Columbia. That’s why in Thursday’s debate half the presidential candidates are sad-sack senators dulled by decades of deal-making and Beltwayspeak and the other half are goofs and oddballs. The shortage of talent is so severe they’ve had to parachute in Wesley Clark, a man who was playing Republican fund-raisers and waving pompons for Bush and Cheney the day before yesterday. Gen. Clark’s star power seemed to have dimmed to a 30-watt bulb by Thursday. The Clark ”bandwagon” is like those Gray Davis ”tightening” numbers. Do you really think he’ll make it through to New Hampshire? Oh, well. If I were a Dem, I’d go with Howard Dean. Even if he loses, he’ll de-Clintonize the party along the way, which ought to be the most important priority. Otherwise, it’s all down to Sen. Rodham Clinton in 2008 — or, as Paul Maslin would put it, the triumph of the Hill.
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Yeah, LV, I liked that one, too. Mark’s pretty funny. As I’ve said, nothing’s funnier than the truth. Freep
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Desperate Dems no match for Arnie October 12, 2003 BY MARK STEYN – CHICAGO SUN-TIMES You gotta admire the way the media stayed on the Demo-crats’ sinking California ship right to the very end. On the CNN Web site, even after Gray Davis had conceded, they were sticking to the loser’s talking-points: ”Schwarzenegger, who, like Hitler, is a native of Austria…” CNN? Oh, that’s that network with Larry King, who, like the Son of Sam, is a native of Brooklyn. Used to be owned by Ted Turner, who, like the Cincinnati Strangler, is a native of Cincinnati. Now part of Time Warner, founded by the Warner Brothers, the oldest of whom, Harry Warner, like many Auschwitz guards, was a native of Poland. Anyway, the good news is that residents of the Golden Reich still have the right to recall their new fuhrer from his bunker in Sacramento, and he probably won’t make Jews wear yellow stars and gays wear pink triangles because the fabric costs for Hollywood and San Francisco alone would double the deficit. But even on the day after, the Dems wouldn’t lay off the Nazi cracks. ”It was the triumph of the swill," said Paul Maslin, in an allusion to the late Leni Riefenstahl’s Hitler-glorifying documentary ”Triumph of the Will.” Arnold’s not just a Nazi, he’s Nazi garbage! Maslin is Gray Davis’ pollster. Maybe he should poll-test his jokes. Incidentally, if there was any triumph of the swill in this election, it was surely Maslin’s remarkable success in persuading so many media outlets to buy into the Gray Davis spin that their ”internal polls” showed the race was ”tightening.” Hence, hilarious headlines like the Washington Post’s on Election Day: ”On Eve Of Vote, California Race Remains Fluid” — ”fluid” in the sense that Cruz Bustamante’s defeat might be merely humiliating instead of shattering? Either Maslin was intentionally shoveling swill at the Los Angeles Times and his other chums or he’s an incredibly bad pollster. Given that there were similar discrepancies between alleged Democratic ”internal polls” and the real world in November 2002, either explanation could be valid. But the press bought the Democratic spin and in turn the Democrats bought the subsequent media spin. Both parties bolstered each other’s delusions. As I wrote after last year’s elections: ”Remind me never to complain about ‘liberal media bias’ again. Right now, liberal media bias is conspiring to assist the Democrats to sleepwalk over the cliff.” But 10 minutes after the polls had closed, the Dems and the media were once again rocketing off to Planet Bananas. Before Election Day, the official line was that the recall was part of a pattern of hardline Republican subversion of the democratic process, going back through the Florida recount to the Clinton impeachment. In an about-turn so fast poor old DNC honcho Terry McAuliffe must have gotten whiplash, the new line was that the recall reflected a voter anger against incumbents that would spell disaster for Bush next year. And even as I lay on the floor howling with laughter, up there on CNN Judy Woodruff & Co. were taking it seriously. That would be the Judy Woodruff who, like 1970s serial killer Lendell Hunter, is a native of Augusta, Ga. Just in case any Democrats have come back down to Planet Earth, here’s what happened on Tuesday: The two Republican candidates — Schwarzenegger and Tom McClintock — pulled 62 percent of the vote between them; the Democrat, Cruz Bustamante, got 31.7 percent. The remaining 6 percent was divided among the other 132 candidates. Just to recap: Republicans 62 percent, Democrats 31.7 percent — in the most liberal state in the nation. As long as all those angry voters keep expressing their anger by voting for Republicans over Democrats by two to one, I think I can live with it. At Thursday’s Democratic Presidential debate, Jeff Greenfield asked the candidates why it was that only 34 percent of Americans identified themselves as Democrats — the lowest number since before the New Deal. ”You’re looking at the glass as half-empty, I look at it as half-full,” said former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, demonstrating the command of basic math that has made the federal budget what it is. The Democratic glass isn’t half-empty, it’s two-thirds empty. Let us take the Davis/Bustamante campaigns at face value: The Republicans said it was all about business and taxes and growth; the Dems said it was about whether Arnie was a Nazi sex fiend. OK, let’s take that as seriously as Katie Couric and the rest of the gang did. Every day I get a gazillion e-mails screaming ”BUSH IS A NAZI!!!!” Also Cheney, Rumsfeld, even yours truly: We’re all Nazis. In California, an accident of birth gave the Democrats the opportunity to run with the Nazi hysteria literally. It flopped spectacularly. As in 2002, they tried to motivate their base by linking the recall to the Florida recount. It flopped, again. As in 2002, they flew in Bill Clinton to whip up the crowd, at least until the groping stories started. He flopped, again — as he did two years ago when Democratic gubernatorial candidates in Florida and Maryland were holding their own until the Big He turned up to rally the crowd. As always, they did the big ethnic pander, damning Republican views on illegal immigration as ”racist.” Amazingly, even this flopped. The Hispanic vote declined to fall in line behind one of their own, and over 30 percent went for Arnie. Nazi! Racist! Don’t forget Florida! Here’s Bill Clinton! It’s not much of a message, is it? And, if the party’s short of ideas, it’s even shorter of stars. The fact that in the most populous state in the nation the two leading Democrats are Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante is as telling as anything. The gubernatorial pool is where you look for presidential talent, and right now their only star governor is Jennifer Granholm, who can’t run for president because she was born in British Columbia. That’s why in Thursday’s debate half the presidential candidates are sad-sack senators dulled by decades of deal-making and Beltwayspeak and the other half are goofs and oddballs. The shortage of talent is so severe they’ve had to parachute in Wesley Clark, a man who was playing Republican fund-raisers and waving pompons for Bush and Cheney the day before yesterday. Gen. Clark’s star power seemed to have dimmed to a 30-watt bulb by Thursday. The Clark ”bandwagon” is like those Gray Davis ”tightening” numbers. Do you really think he’ll make it through to New Hampshire? Oh, well. If I were a Dem, I’d go with Howard Dean. Even if he loses, he’ll de-Clintonize the party along the way, which ought to be the most important priority. Otherwise, it’s all down to Sen. Rodham Clinton in 2008 — or, as Paul Maslin would put it, the triumph of the Hill.
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The Fart Valve’s taken to posting articles….only:) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Desperate Dems no match for Arnie October 12, 2003 BY MARK STEYN – CHICAGO SUN-TIMES You gotta admire the way the media stayed on the Demo-crats’ sinking California ship right to the very end. On the CNN Web site, even after Gray Davis had conceded, they were sticking to the loser’s talking-points: ”Schwarzenegger, who, like Hitler, is a native of Austria…” CNN? Oh, that’s that network with Larry King, who, like the Son of Sam, is a native of Brooklyn. Used to be owned by Ted Turner, who, like the Cincinnati Strangler, is a native of Cincinnati. Now part of Time Warner, founded by the Warner Brothers, the oldest of whom, Harry Warner, like many Auschwitz guards, was a native of Poland. Anyway, the good news is that residents of the Golden Reich still have the right to recall their new fuhrer from his bunker in Sacramento, and he probably won’t make Jews wear yellow stars and gays wear pink triangles because the fabric costs for Hollywood and San Francisco alone would double the deficit. But even on the day after, the Dems wouldn’t lay off the Nazi cracks. ”It was the triumph of the swill," said Paul Maslin, in an allusion to the late Leni Riefenstahl’s Hitler-glorifying documentary ”Triumph of the Will.” Arnold’s not just a Nazi, he’s Nazi garbage! Maslin is Gray Davis’ pollster. Maybe he should poll-test his jokes. Incidentally, if there was any triumph of the swill in this election, it was surely Maslin’s remarkable success in persuading so many media outlets to buy into the Gray Davis spin that their ”internal polls” showed the race was ”tightening.” Hence, hilarious headlines like the Washington Post’s on Election Day: ”On Eve Of Vote, California Race Remains Fluid” — ”fluid” in the sense that Cruz Bustamante’s defeat might be merely humiliating instead of shattering? Either Maslin was intentionally shoveling swill at the Los Angeles Times and his other chums or he’s an incredibly bad pollster. Given that there were similar discrepancies between alleged Democratic ”internal polls” and the real world in November 2002, either explanation could be valid. But the press bought the Democratic spin and in turn the Democrats bought the subsequent media spin. Both parties bolstered each other’s delusions. As I wrote after last year’s elections: ”Remind me never to complain about ‘liberal media bias’ again. Right now, liberal media bias is conspiring to assist the Democrats to sleepwalk over the cliff.” But 10 minutes after the polls had closed, the Dems and the media were once again rocketing off to Planet Bananas. Before Election Day, the official line was that the recall was part of a pattern of hardline Republican subversion of the democratic process, going back through the Florida recount to the Clinton impeachment. In an about-turn so fast poor old DNC honcho Terry McAuliffe must have gotten whiplash, the new line was that the recall reflected a voter anger against incumbents that would spell disaster for Bush next year. And even as I lay on the floor howling with laughter, up there on CNN Judy Woodruff & Co. were taking it seriously. That would be the Judy Woodruff who, like 1970s serial killer Lendell Hunter, is a native of Augusta, Ga. Just in case any Democrats have come back down to Planet Earth, here’s what happened on Tuesday: The two Republican candidates — Schwarzenegger and Tom McClintock — pulled 62 percent of the vote between them; the Democrat, Cruz Bustamante, got 31.7 percent. The remaining 6 percent was divided among the other 132 candidates. Just to recap: Republicans 62 percent, Democrats 31.7 percent — in the most liberal state in the nation. As long as all those angry voters keep expressing their anger by voting for Republicans over Democrats by two to one, I think I can live with it. At Thursday’s Democratic Presidential debate, Jeff Greenfield asked the candidates why it was that only 34 percent of Americans identified themselves as Democrats — the lowest number since before the New Deal. ”You’re looking at the glass as half-empty, I look at it as half-full,” said former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, demonstrating the command of basic math that has made the federal budget what it is. The Democratic glass isn’t half-empty, it’s two-thirds empty. Let us take the Davis/Bustamante campaigns at face value: The Republicans said it was all about business and taxes and growth; the Dems said it was about whether Arnie was a Nazi sex fiend. OK, let’s take that as seriously as Katie Couric and the rest of the gang did. Every day I get a gazillion e-mails screaming ”BUSH IS A NAZI!!!!” Also Cheney, Rumsfeld, even yours truly: We’re all Nazis. In California, an accident of birth gave the Democrats the opportunity to run with the Nazi hysteria literally. It flopped spectacularly. As in 2002, they tried to motivate their base by linking the recall to the Florida recount. It flopped, again. As in 2002, they flew in Bill Clinton to whip up the crowd, at least until the groping stories started. He flopped, again — as he did two years ago when Democratic gubernatorial candidates in Florida and Maryland were holding their own until the Big He turned up to rally the crowd. As always, they did the big ethnic pander, damning Republican views on illegal immigration as ”racist.” Amazingly, even this flopped. The Hispanic vote declined to fall in line behind one of their own, and over 30 percent went for Arnie. Nazi! Racist! Don’t forget Florida! Here’s Bill Clinton! It’s not much of a message, is it? And, if the party’s short of ideas, it’s even shorter of stars. The fact that in the most populous state in the nation the two leading Democrats are Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante is as telling as anything. The gubernatorial pool is where you look for presidential talent, and right now their only star governor is Jennifer Granholm, who can’t run for president because she was born in British Columbia. That’s why in Thursday’s debate half the presidential candidates are sad-sack senators dulled by decades of deal-making and Beltwayspeak and the other half are goofs and oddballs. The shortage of talent is so severe they’ve had to parachute in Wesley Clark, a man who was playing Republican fund-raisers and waving pompons for Bush and Cheney the day before yesterday. Gen. Clark’s star power seemed to have dimmed to a 30-watt bulb by Thursday. The Clark ”bandwagon” is like those Gray Davis ”tightening” numbers. Do you really think he’ll make it through to New Hampshire? Oh, well. If I were a Dem, I’d go with Howard Dean. Even if he loses, he’ll de-Clintonize the party along the way, which ought to be the most important priority. Otherwise, it’s all down to Sen. Rodham Clinton in 2008 — or, as Paul Maslin would put it, the triumph of the Hill.
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Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike
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Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college.
They need to practice on winning a few local elections first. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age.
What? Colleges are notoriously hardcore liberal…from where are these young voting age people getting their right-wing pollution? I amazed at how many young Republicans there are.
Why, you thought all young people were gullible and ignorant? However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power.
And then what happens in this story of yours?
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Your optimism is inspiring. I’ve had a hard time maintaining mine lately. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike
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You mean Mike? Hell, That ain’t optimism, that’s anger.
Your optimism is inspiring. I’ve had a hard time maintaining mine lately.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike
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Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike
Unbelievable, the people are wise when they vote Democrat, they’re stupid, or at least deceived when they vote Republican. The arrogance, the sheer ignorant gall of this attitude is almost beyond description. Just for once I’d like to see someone from the left come out and admit that the Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats, just once a burst of honesty like that would be so refreshing, but no. Keep your head in the sand Mike, at least that way you don’t have to see your ass waving around in the air.
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Is THAT why Al Gore WON THE VOTE? You get the sucking sphincter between yer ears award for THAT tantrum, Fudgie! 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike Unbelievable, the people are wise when they vote Democrat, they’re stupid, or at least deceived when they vote Republican. The arrogance, the sheer ignorant gall of this attitude is almost beyond description. Just for once I’d like to see someone from the left come out and admit that the Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats, just once a burst of honesty like that would be so refreshing, but no. Keep your head in the sand Mike, at least that way you don’t have to see your ass waving around in the air.
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Maybe a bit of both. Anyway, it’s better than apathy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You mean Mike? Hell, That ain’t optimism, that’s anger. Your optimism is inspiring. I’ve had a hard time maintaining mine lately. Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike
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Maybe a bit of both. Anyway, it’s better than apathy.
That is the truth.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You mean Mike? Hell, That ain’t optimism, that’s anger. Your optimism is inspiring. I’ve had a hard time maintaining mine lately. Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike
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Unbelievable, the people are wise when they vote Democrat, they’re stupid, or at least deceived when they vote Republican. The arrogance, the sheer ignorant gall of this attitude is almost beyond description. Just for once I’d like to see someone from the left come out and admit that the Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats, just once a burst of honesty like that would be so refreshing, but no. Keep your head in the sand Mike, at least that way you don’t have to see your ass waving around in the air.
The Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats. A significant number of people in this country can’t imagine that their government or the media would ever lie to them, so they eat up the propaganda and lies and believe it to be true. Therefore, they vote Republican because they believe the lies and bullshit that pervade the airwaves. The Democrats aren’t nasty enough to overcome this bullshit parade, so we will never have the right people in power in this country that can strike a balance and do what is good for industry AND people. As long as people like Rush Limbaugh spew emotionally-charged garbage that is unchallenged, we will have non-thinkers that will carry his torch and support him even when he has been shown to be a fraud, a liar, and a hypocrite. Roy
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A significant number of people in this country can’t imagine that their government or the media would ever lie to them, so they eat up the propaganda and lies and believe it to be true. Therefore, they vote Republican because they believe the lies and bullshit that pervade the airwaves. The Democrats aren’t nasty enough to overcome this bullshit parade,
In other words, you’re saying that the majority of the people are too stupid to know when they’re being lied to, the news media is part of a conservative plot, and the Democrats are too inept to do anything about all this. You need to add another layer of aluminum foil, your hat is leaking.
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But the press bought the Democratic spin and in turn the Democrats bought the subsequent media spin. Both parties bolstered each other’s delusions. As I wrote after last year’s elections: ”Remind me never to complain about ‘liberal media bias’ again. Right now, liberal media bias is conspiring to assist the Democrats to sleepwalk over the cliff.”
Brilliant, and the funny part is that even when they’re told they’re doing it, they still won’t wake up.
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Dog Groping Devin was on to something until his mind buckled and he went for the foil hat bit….;) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A significant number of people in this country can’t imagine that their government or the media would ever lie to them, so they eat up the propaganda and lies and believe it to be true. Therefore, they vote Republican because they believe the lies and bullshit that pervade the airwaves. The Democrats aren’t nasty enough to overcome this bullshit parade, In other words, you’re saying that the majority of the people are too stupid to know when they’re being lied to, the news media is part of a conservative plot, and the Democrats are too inept to do anything about all this. You need to add another layer of aluminum foil, your hat is leaking.
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Devin, your mother’s bed wetting advice has nothing to do with this discussion. Snap out of it son! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But the press bought the Democratic spin and in turn the Democrats bought the subsequent media spin. Both parties bolstered each other’s delusions. As I wrote after last year’s elections: ”Remind me never to complain about ‘liberal media bias’ again. Right now, liberal media bias is conspiring to assist the Democrats to sleepwalk over the cliff.” Brilliant, and the funny part is that even when they’re told they’re doing it, they still won’t wake up.
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Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000?
Gore lost. Get over it. The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age.
Yes, their eyes are opening, albeit very slowly. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are.
Ug – me amazed too. Speakee Engrish? If it weren’t for the NEA, there would be MILLIONS more of them than there are aready. We’re working on that angle, too, though…home schooling is *way* up. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power.
Why, we’ll see in a little more than a year, right? How do you like your crow? Lord Valve Charter Member, VRC
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And until then, you’ll continue to play braille with minors Why, we’ll see in a little more than a year, right? How do you like your crow? Lord Valve Charter Member, VRC
VRC: Verified Rectal Craving Vast Reservoir of Cuntisms Vapid Ripoff Calling Visitors Require Cuffs Volts Removed CNS Vulcans Reply: Caveman Ah, this scat’s too simple- time to hit the studio;)
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As I’ve said before, speaking purely as a Republican, I hope they stick to that belief. It’s the reason the beatings have gotten worse every year since 2000. They even got an *extra* one — there wasn’t expected to BE an election in 2003. The more elections they go into believing that the previous loss was due to not having screamed their demented message loudly *enough*, the less of a party there’ll be left to finally pick up the pieces when their national percentage slice gets down to single digits. As a human, of course, I can’t help feeling a little sorry for them. As I’ve noted, it’s like being a fly on the wall at Bellevue to watch them. But, hey — there’s no LAW that says they have to be liberals. They have brains too, somewhere beneath all those thick alternating layers of concrete and compressed bird-droppings. It’s not like it’s the *GOP* telling them not to use them. This morning, Hannah Storm asked Weasely Clark what he thought of the Cali result. He told her it was a big warning to Bush. My essentially non-political wife literally *laughed out loud* — She actually shrieked in uncontrolled amusement. Even Hannah missed a beat, finally saying "Well, that’s an interesting take on that." And with that, she closed the interview. When even your *Hannah Storms* start to smell the bullshit, the end is very VERY near. Freep
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Mike Unbelievable, the people are wise when they vote Democrat, they’re stupid, or at least deceived when they vote Republican. The arrogance, the sheer ignorant gall of this attitude is almost beyond description. Just for once I’d like to see someone from the left come out and admit that the Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats, just once a burst of honesty like that would be so refreshing, but no. Keep your head in the sand Mike, at least that way you don’t have to see your ass waving around in the air.
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Good, Roy. *Very* good. Go with that — you guys aren’t nasty *enough*. You need to get a *whole* lot nastier. That’s the ticket. That’ll get votes. [aside:] *damn*, man… Freep
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Unbelievable, the people are wise when they vote Democrat, they’re stupid, or at least deceived when they vote Republican. The arrogance, the sheer ignorant gall of this attitude is almost beyond description. Just for once I’d like to see someone from the left come out and admit that the Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats, just once a burst of honesty like that would be so refreshing, but no. Keep your head in the sand Mike, at least that way you don’t have to see your ass waving around in the air. The Republicans keep winning elections because their message appeals to more voters than that of the Democrats. A significant number of people in this country can’t imagine that their government or the media would ever lie to them, so they eat up the propaganda and lies and believe it to be true. Therefore, they vote Republican because they believe the lies and bullshit that pervade the airwaves. The Democrats aren’t nasty enough to overcome this bullshit parade, so we will never have the right people in power in this country that can strike a balance and do what is good for industry AND people. As long as people like Rush Limbaugh spew emotionally-charged garbage that is unchallenged, we will have non-thinkers that will carry his torch and support him even when he has been shown to be a fraud, a liar, and a hypocrite. Roy
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Hey, LV, you’ll like this one. Did you hear the other day where a 9th grade boy lent his asthma inhaler to a girl who was having a potentially fatal attack, who had forgotten hers, and was promptly expelled until Christmas for breaking the ‘zero-tolerance’ rule? Even the school elders agree he saved her life, but they kicked him out anyway. Until Christmas, they said. Then he can come back. Well, that’s all old news by now… the new part is, both students say they’ll *never* go back to that school; they’re going to home-school now. How do you suppose they’ll vote when they’re old enough? Freep
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dream on LV. And this is why Gore won the popular vote in 2000? Gore lost. Get over it. The Democrats need to figure out how to win an electoral college. It ain’t gonna be easy because the right-wingers have polluted & deceived alot of younger people entering the voting age. Yes, their eyes are opening, albeit very slowly. I amazed at how many young Republicans there are. Ug – me amazed too. Speakee Engrish? If it weren’t for the NEA, there would be MILLIONS more of them than there are aready. We’re working on that angle, too, though…home schooling is *way* up. However, one of these days, people will wake up again & see the wool that’s been pulled over their eyes. Then they’ll remove these right-wingers from power. Why, we’ll see in a little more than a year, right? How do you like your crow? Lord Valve Charter Member, VRC
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Arnie
Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Arnold!
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Arnie Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Arnold!
Still crying about Cali, I see. How awful, Freep
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Arnie Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Arnold! Still crying about Cali, I see. How awful, Freep
Still playing the Nazi card. Even worse, Mike F.
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I have suffered very much from depression myself — even to the point of hallucination and hospitalization, so I understand how devastating it can be. I’m glad you had your dogs — something to keep you going through the rough times. It feels like the LAST thing you want to do, but I think when you’re really depressed, it does help to DO something. It gets your mind off of itself and keeps you from ruminating too much. Walking the dogs is excellent therapy, whether you did it purposely or not to feel better. It’s not a stressful action, but a really positive one. I have some definite ideas about people who have young children and pets. Maybe it works with some children and some pets, but I worry about animals in houses with small children. Kids can be abusive to the animal, and not even realize if — pulling ears, trying to ride the pet, etc. I raised two sons, and we didn’t get a dog until they were old enough to know how to play with the animal without hurting him. (He was a Collie named Ben) I bet my boys were around 7 and 9 by the time I felt they were old enough to not roughhouse too much — and I purposely got a large dog so that if they did play too rough with him, he could tolerate it better, plus Collies are very good natured animals, so I didn’t worry about how the dog would react to my sons. It sounds like Jasper may have been in an environment that was too stimulating.. maybe too rough for him. As an anxiety sufferer yourself, I’m sure you can sympathize with what he’s been through. It’s kind of fitting for you to get an animal who’s had a bit of an anxiety issue himself! It sounds like you two were made for each other. Well good luck with your newest family member. BTW, I am a cat owner. She adopted us about 12-13 years ago (I can’t honestly remember how old she is!) — but she is my buddy. She sits on the computer when I’m using it, and demands that I pet her. She sleeps with me. We spoil her – we cook her chicken and turkey breast for a treat. She is exclusively an indoor cat, but we actually had a screened in porch put on the house so she has a place to watch the birds and squirrels. She’s a member of the family and we love her very much. Good luck to you and Jasper. I think that it will really brighten your life to have a new, young dog to take care of and play with and spoil! Animals and humans need each other.. it’s a symbiotic relationship. Sara ^..^< Anxiety, I can’t get nothin done Anxiety destroys all the fun – Pat Benetar 